Spanish 21Tables

Does anybody know where I can get the EV tables for Spanish 21 or Pontoon?

Quote: Kelmo

Does anybody know where I can get the EV tables for Spanish 21 or Pontoon?

Yes. Here's where I got mine.

have you tried the Wizard of Odds site? Look under Blackjack... Appendix something, perhaps 8.

Quote: FleaStiff

have you tried the Wizard of Odds site? Look under Blackjack... Appendix something, perhaps 8.

Actually Appendix 9 is what I'm looking for, but for Spanish 21 or Pontoon. Does the book that Walker wrote have these types of tables?

Quote: Kelmo

Actually Appendix 9 is what I'm looking for, but for Spanish 21 or Pontoon. Does the book that Walker wrote have these types of tables?

No. I'm looking through Katarina Walker's book now, and I don't see tables of hand EV's.

Darn. Thanks for looking though.

Stephen How has hand E.V.'s but you might need to know C++.

On a related question, does anyone know if that book has any decent amount of info on a S17 game? (with no double double down)

I ask, because S17 games are closer to me, and it seems, MORE countable. Using just EOR charts I found, I created a balanced count that's the same as Hi-Lo, except 5s count as +2 and Aces are -3. I realize there are better tags to use, but I find that info on the game is so limited, it may only be worth it to memorize strategy, and use that count w/o index plays.

I just got the book of off teddys, for use at a S17 no redouble game. Most of her detailed charts are for H17 no redouble, with a unbalanced standard hi-lo.

She does have an index chart for S17, but it uses the unbalanced hi-lo count. The problem is, we know that the EORs are different for S17, favouring Aces even more. I use -2 for aces, and otherwise a balanced hi-lo. Now I am using K.Walker's index charts for S17, and just add +4 to her charts. Those indices are very close to what I get via my simulation program, so it's going to be about as good as you can get without doing (or paying for) a massive simulation to get proper index charts.

I think using good tags for betting decisions is much more important than having exact indices for making playing decisions. Your tags are also good, and you should be able to use the same index chart from her book.

Quote: teddys

Stephen How has hand E.V.'s but you might need to know C++.

I checked the link and it appears that you can no longer get the source code. Does anyone have it??

Quote: Kelmo

I checked the link and it appears that you can no longer get the source code. Does anyone have it??

I don't, but Stephen still probably does. You could possibly ask him for it. Worst he could say is "No".