Dobrij
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July 8th, 2012 at 5:50:22 PM permalink
Hello!

Does anyone familiar with the game of CASINO Hold'em OMAHA poker? If so, what rules considered correct?

Six months ago, introduced the game, and because of the straight flush 50:1 had a lot of problems. Other sources have found that straight flush should be 20:1

Does anyone can help with information?
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July 8th, 2012 at 7:16:19 PM permalink
Is this an on-line game or a Table game... can you tell us where its located?
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July 9th, 2012 at 11:15:53 AM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Hello!
Does anyone familiar with the game of CASINO Hold'em OMAHA poker? If so, what rules considered correct?
Six months ago, introduced the game, and because of the straight flush 50:1 had a lot of problems. Other sources have found that straight flush should be 20:1
Does anyone can help with information?


50:1 is the right odd for the straight flush.
If any one interested in this game (Casino Hold'em® Omaha) please PM me.


Casino Hold'em® Omaha Poker
Video Presentation

Inventor: Stephen Au-Yeung
Invented in 2003 (Play in Russia)
US Patents: 6,206,373 and 6,637,747
Mathematical Analysis = Michael Shackleford (Wizard of Odds) A.S.A.

Rules
1. Players make an Ante wager and an optional side bet Triple+.

2. Three cards are dealt face down to each player and the dealer, In addition 3 flop (community) cards are dealt face up.
The players may examine their own 3 cards but sharing information should be discouraged.
All players and dealer may use the 3 flop (community) cards as part of their hand.

3. Each player must decide to either fold or call. If the player folds he gives up his cards and his Ante. If the player call the Call bet must be double the Ante.

4. The dealer will then deal 2 more community cards, form a total of 5. The dealer will also turn over his own 3 cards.

5. Each player and the dealer will form the best 5-card poker hand by using exactly 2 of his own 3 cards and 3 of the 5 flop (community) cards.

6. Each player will compare his best hand against the dealers best hand.

7. The dealer must have a pair of 7s or better to qualify.
If the dealer does not qualify then the ante will pay according to the AnteWin pay table below and the call bet will push.
If the dealer qualifies:
(a) Dealer beats the player, then the player will lose both the Ante and Call.
(b) Player beats the dealer, then the ante will pay according to the AnteWin pay table shown below, and the call bet will pay 1 to 1.
(c) if the Dealer and Player have exactly the same hand the bet is a 'push', it neither wins nor loses;

8. If the dealer qualifies and the player ties the dealer then both ante and call bets will push.

AnteWin Pay Table
Royal Flush -------- 100 to 1
Straight flush ------- 50 to 1
Four of a kind ------ 10 to 1
Full house ----------- 2 to 1
Flush ----------------- 2 to 1
Straight or less ----- 1 to 1
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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July 9th, 2012 at 11:30:01 AM permalink
Isn't Omaha Poker played with 4 hole cards usually?
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July 9th, 2012 at 11:51:45 AM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Isn't Omaha Poker played with 4 hole cards usually?

Yeah. And Hold 'Em is usually two cards.

And both are usually played agains't other players.

This game is a house banked casino game, not a poker room game. The name is just a name with a loose association to the poker games of the same names.
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July 9th, 2012 at 12:23:35 PM permalink
But there is a name for hold em with three hole cards, isn't it called pineapple? or is that the one where you discard after the flop?
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July 9th, 2012 at 12:52:59 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

But there is a name for hold em with three hole cards, isn't it called pineapple? or is that the one where you discard after the flop?


Yes, there is one call pineapple and one call Crazy pineapple.

In Pineapple Hold'em: Players are initially dealt three cards. Each player then discards one of the three cards, and the game proceeds exactly as in Texas hold 'em.

In Crazy Pineapple Hold'em: The players discards one of the three cards after the flop betting round, before the fourth community card is dealt.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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July 9th, 2012 at 1:02:47 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Isn't Omaha Poker played with 4 hole cards usually?


Yes, Omaha Poker is played with 4 hole cards usually.
In the UK we have 5-Card Omaha and 6-Card Omaha.

I like to use 3-card for my Casino Omaha game, because it saves time and much easier to see the hands than 4-cards.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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July 9th, 2012 at 1:08:11 PM permalink
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I like to use 3-card for my Casino Omaha game, because it saves time and much easier to see the hands than 4-cards.

It also makes it easier to implement using a shuffler that spits out cards three at a time: 3 for each player, 3 for the flop, and 3 for the turn and river (plus one discard).
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July 9th, 2012 at 1:20:54 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

It also makes it easier to implement using a shuffler that spits out cards three at a time: 3 for each player, 3 for the flop, and 3 for the turn and river (plus one discard).


yes DJ, You've got a good point there.
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July 9th, 2012 at 2:49:46 PM permalink
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50:1 is the right odd for the straight flush.
If any one interested in this game (Casino Hold'em® Omaha) please PM me.


I led the calculations where the probability of a straight flush = 0,0041
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July 9th, 2012 at 3:22:55 PM permalink
Royal Flush 0.0046
Straight Flush 0.0403
Four of a Kind 0.2881
Full House 3.4976
flush 3.9020
Street 6.9516
Triple 7.6389
2 pairs of 31.0980
A pair of 38.0530
Blank 8.5258

This seems to be true?
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July 9th, 2012 at 3:50:53 PM permalink
Yes, it seems to be true.
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:00:54 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Royal Flush 0.0046
Straight Flush 0.0403
Four of a Kind 0.2881
Full House 3.4976
flush 3.9020
Street 6.9516
Triple 7.6389
2 pairs of 31.0980
A pair of 38.0530
Blank 8.5258

This seems to be true?


The Mathematical Analysis of this game (Casino Hold'em® Omaha) was done by Michael Shackleford (Wizard of Odds also the owner of this site).
He is the man to ask.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:22:32 PM permalink
It can calculate and correct, trust and respect the work of Michael C.

Just in my casino, this game came out for 2 months beyond the mid -1500 ante. I was scared, because has not worked with this game. And the greatest fluctuations is a straight flush...

Does anyone have experience with this game?
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July 9th, 2012 at 11:16:41 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

It can calculate and correct, trust and respect the work of Michael C.

Just in my casino, this game came out for 2 months beyond the mid -1500 ante. I was scared, because has not worked with this game. And the greatest fluctuations is a straight flush...

Does anyone have experience with this game?


Casino Hold'em® Omaha, was playing in Russia and it was very successful along with Casino Hold'em®.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
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