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January 8th, 2023 at 4:19:05 PM permalink
Seahawks miss the field goal to keep me on life support!

Great catch by Galladay seals my fate on the Eagles and hopes for first place.

Wow!
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January 8th, 2023 at 4:20:47 PM permalink
No extra point in overtime
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January 8th, 2023 at 4:35:43 PM permalink
I picked my way outta the money in the afternoon games.

From my chicken scratches, regardless of the Detroit game, Gordon888 won, with FourFiveFace 2nd, and IndyJeffrey 3rd.

Gordon888 and Gaming711 are both alive for the perfection bonus with both picking Detroit +4.5 tonight.

I could be wrong on my figures, so take it with a grain of salt.

Congratulations and good luck tonight!
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January 8th, 2023 at 4:38:09 PM permalink
I should know better than to EVER bet on a Mike McCarthy coached team. ...
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January 8th, 2023 at 8:31:44 PM permalink

OMG I can't believe it
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Week 18 Results

miplet (3-3)
JETS -1 (loss)
BILLS -7 (win)
BENGALS -7 (win)
BEARS +7.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BRONCOS -2.5 (win)

Wizard (2-4)
RAIDERS +9.5 (loss)
TITANS +6 (win)
BUCCANEERS +4 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PANTHERS +3.5 (win)
PATRIOTS +7 (loss)

Gaming711 (6-0)
TEXANS +2.5 (win)
BILLS OVER 42.5 (win)
RAMS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
STEELERS -2.5 (win)
LIONS +4.5 (win)

PlayYourCardsRight (5-1)
STEELERS -2.5 (win)
TEXANS +2.5 (win)
BILLS -7 (win)
BENGALS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
COWBOYS -7 (loss)

AZDuffman (0-5)
LIONS OVER 49 (loss)
CHARGERS UNDER 39.5 (loss)
BUCCANEERS UNDER 40.5 (loss)
BROWNS UNDER 40.5 (loss)
BEARS OVER 43 (loss)

jml24 (3-3)
DOLPHINS +1 (win)
COLTS -2.5 (loss)
BEARS +7.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
RAMS +6.5 (win)
COMMANDERS +7 (win)

FourFiveFace (6-0)
BILLS -7 (win)
BENGALS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
RAMS +6.5 (win)
BRONCOS -2.5 (win)
LIONS +4.5 (win)

IndyJeffrey (5-1)
BROWNS +2.5 (loss)
TEXANS +2.5 (win)
BENGALS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
RAMS +6.5 (win)
LIONS +4.5 (win)

EdCollins (3-2)
STEELERS UNDER 40.5 (loss)
LIONS +4.5 (win)
TITANS +6 (win)
RAIDERS +9.5 (loss)
RAMS +6.5 (win)

JW17 (4-2)
BRONCOS -2.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
LIONS +4.5 (win)
BILLS -7 (win)
SEAHAWKS -6.5 (loss)
BUCCANEERS +4 (loss)

JohnnyQ (3-3)
RAIDERS +9.5 (loss)
BROWNS +2.5 (loss)
GIANTS +14 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS +14 (loss)
BRONCOS -2.5 (win)

JimRockford (3-3)
TITANS +6 (win)
DOLPHINS +1 CONFIDENCE (win)
PATRIOTS +7 (loss)
RAVENS +7 (loss)
CARDINALS +14 (loss)

Gordonm888 (6-0)
TITANS +6 (win)
BILLS -7 (win)
VIKINGS -7.5 (win)
49ERS -14 (win)
LIONS +4.5 CONFIDENCE (win)

Joeman (2-4)
PATRIOTS +7 (loss)
CHIEFS -9.5 (win)
PACKERS -4.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
JAGUARS -6 (loss)
STEELERS -2.5 (win)

ksdjdj (2-4)
RAIDERS +9.5 (loss)
JAGUARS -6 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PANTHERS UNDER 41.5 (win)
BENGALS -7 (win)
BEARS +7.5 (loss)

Vegasbrent (2-4)
CHIEFS -9.5 (win)
BEARS +7.5 (loss)
BENGALS -7 (win)
EAGLES -14 (loss)
SEAHAWKS -6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)

SOOPOO (4-2)
LIONS +4.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
RAMS +6.5 (win)
RAIDERS +9.5 (loss)
TEXANS +2.5 (win)
SAINTS -3.5 (loss)

Final Standings

Name Wins Losses %
Gordonm888 58 41 58.59%
FourFiveFace 57 43 57.00%
IndyJeffrey 59 47 55.66%
Vegasbrent 56 48 53.85%
JimRockford 48 44 52.17%
PlayYourCardsRight 48 48 50.00%
jml24 48 50 48.98%
Wizard 51 54 48.57%
Gaming711 50 53 48.54%
JW17 48 51 48.48%
KSDJDJ 48 51 48.48%
JohnnyQ 48 53 47.52%
miplet 50 56 47.17%
GenWyzgy 47 54 46.53%
SOOPOO 47 58 44.76%
AZDuffman 46 58 44.23%
Joeman 45 59 43.27%
EdCollins 42 61 40.78%
Johnzimbo 37 63 37.00%
Totals 933 992 48.47%


Skip Week Summary

JohnnyQ: Week 1
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 1
JimRockford: Week 2
JW17: Week 9
KSDJDJ: Week 11
FourFiveFace: Week 12
Gordonm888: Week 13
GenWyzgy: Week 18
Johnzimbo: Week 18


Perfection Bonus Summary

Week 01: $10 - miplet
Week 02: $10 - Gordonm88
Week 03: $10 - FourFiveFace
Week 04: (No One. Carry Over To Week 5)
Week 05: $20 - IndyJeffrey
Week 06: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 07: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 08: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 09: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 10: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 11: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 12: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 13: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 14: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 15: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 16: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 17: (No One. Prize Carried Over)
Week 18: $43.33 - Gordonm888
Week 18: $43.33 - Gaming711
Week 18: $43.33 - FourFiveFace
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January 8th, 2023 at 8:58:59 PM permalink
Congrats to Gordonm888, Gaming711 and FourFiveFace on the perfect week.

Gordonm888 on the big win! FourFiveFace on second and IndyJeffrey on third.

And JohnZimbo onthe You Suck!

Big props to Mission and Ed for running this and keep track of everything!
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January 9th, 2023 at 5:42:14 AM permalink
Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

Congrats to Gordonm888, Gaming711 and FourFiveFace on the perfect week.

Gordonm888 on the big win! FourFiveFace on second and IndyJeffrey on third.

And JohnZimbo onthe You Suck!

Big props to Mission and Ed for running this and keep track of everything!
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Exactly this!

I slept in a little, so have not had coffee yet; I’ll be on this evening or afternoon and make a post detailing everything and will also answer the questions about the Playoff game and get that ball rolling!
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January 9th, 2023 at 6:53:57 AM permalink
Congratulations Gordon!

Also, thanks to Mission for running the contest.

Can I get a reminder how much I lost and how to pay the winner?
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January 9th, 2023 at 9:15:48 AM permalink
Greetings!

Once again, I would like to give the following acknowledgements:

1.) Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2023 WoV Picks Game! The following link:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/37855-wov-2023-nfl-playoff-picks-game/#post877943

Is to the 2023 WoV Playoff Picks Game which will NOT have an Entry Fee. Because the Perfection Bonus was won in Week 18, the Playoff Picks Game will be available for anybody to enter and I will also be entering to defend my money.

2.) Thank you to EdCollins for creating the Picks grading program all those years ago that makes this game 87.2% easier and faster to run. We had a few hiccups in the early years, very minor, but now I don't even manually check grades anymore.

3.) Thank you to Miplet for designing a program that converts website information into the Lines! Unfortunately, VegasInsider has changed their formatting multiple times this season, but perhaps Miplet will choose to do this again next season when we use a different Line source. If not, I do thank him for the many years of use we got out of the program thus far.

THE RESULTS

We will recall that JohnZimbo was so bad this season he didn't even need to play in Week 18 to have the, "You Suck," bonus locked up and has already been thoroughly roasted. I will quote his roasting below:

Quote:

Congratulations to JohnZimbo! In a season just full of awful Picks, JohnZimbo's Picks sucked so badly that he is easily going to be the worst player of this game without even picking this week! What really impresses me is that he lacks the Confidence in just how bad his Picks are, and instead, took the safe route of simply not picking this week to secure his position as the absolute worst player of this game in 2022.

Personally, I have tremendous confidence in how badly JohnZimbo is capable of sucking at picking NFL Games, so I think he would have ran down the score by, at best, going 1-5 this week and simply making his winning percentage even worse.

Also, in so doing, he ensured that EdCollins cannot win any of the prizes in the regular Picks game---so not only does JohnZimbo suck at picking NFL Games, but he also did something extremely rude! Let us also include the fact that he took the safe route against the ONE PERSON who could have theoretically sucked worse than he does at Picking. That's right; JohnZimbo could have went 6-0 and only EdCollins would have been a threat.

JohnZimbo, you suck------CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THE PRIZE!!!



I'd also like to add:

How bad is JohnZimbo at picking NFL Games?

JohnZimbo is so bad at picking NFL Games that, if he walked into South Point, an independent sportsbook, this week and bet $10,000,000 on the Chargers to cover the spread, not only would they take the bet, they wouldn't even move the Line after.

Gordonm888, Gaming711 & FourFiveFace---What the hell, guys? Seriously? We could have went thirteen weeks without a Perfection Bonus, which I think would be a record since it was created and THREE of you hit it at once? It looks like that's going to be $43.33 each way, which we are just going to make $45, because it's easier.

PlayYourCardsRight, haven't you won the, "You Suck," bonus before? At this rate, you'll probably win the whole thing next year. It's actually been suggested in the past that, instead of .500 for most average, I start doing closest to the mean. I don't mean to be mean, but the mean was dreadful this year, so maybe I'll do that. I'm usually lazy and copy/paste the rules from the previous year and change dates, so it'll probably end up being closest to .500 again. Either way, you NAILED it! Your only mistake was not making the Perfection Bonus four ways with a win as you would have got Most Average either way.

IndyJeffrey---Third Place! Congratulations! I'd like to say it must have been difficult to pull off, but come on, we can all see the Standings; this has to be our worst year as a group!

FourFiveFace---Congratulations on Second Place! It would have been really exciting if Gordon and yourself had opposite sides of the Lions game!

Gordonm888---I don't know how you did it, but I think you used some of those Administrator superpowers (that don't actually exist) to read all of my PM's and structure your Picks this Week such as to give yourself the best possible chance of winning.

I'm kidding, of course!!! Awesome season on your part and you got to rest easy last night!!!

THE FINANCIALS

I'm not going to wait until after the Playoff Picks Game to get people paid out. I plan to do it either a week from today or a week from Tuesday after I hear back from everyone on how they would like to be paid. Your options will be sent via PM, then I will compile a list in-thread and do it all at once. Don't worry; the list will not contain any of your information; it will only contain how you were paid.

If you won a Prize large enough to cover the $25 Entry Fee, then the Entry Fee will be removed from your Prize and you will be sent the difference. Therefore, you owe the winner nothing. If you won a prize, but it was not large enough to cover the Entry Fee, then you owe the winner $25 and we will get together on you getting your Prize from me. If you did not win any prize, then you owe Gordonm888 $25.

I will not be handling anyone else's money for any reason, so you must discuss how Gordonm888 will be paid with him if you owe him for the contest.

1.) Gordonm888---Receives $250 for First Place, $55 in Perfection Bonuses and will receive an additional $450 in Entry Fees for a total of $755.

2.) FourFiveFace---Receives $150 for Second Place and $55 in Perfection Bonuses; this will be reduced by the $25 Entry Fee which will go to Gordonm888.

*This means that FourFiveFace will directly receive $180.

3.) IndyJeffrey---Receives $100 for Third Place and a $20 Perfection Bonus; this will be reduced by the $25 Entry Fee which will go to Gordonm888.

*This means that IndyJeffrey will directly receive $95.

4.) PlayYourCardsRight---Receives $75 for Most Average; this will be reduced by the $25 Entry Fee which will go to Gordonm888.

*This means that PlayYourCardsRight will directly receive $50.

5.) JohnZimbo---Receives $75 for the You Suck prize; this will be reduced by the $25 Entry Fee which will go to Gordonm888.

*This means JohnZimbo will directly receive $50.

6.) Gaming711---Receives $45 for Perfection Bonus; this will be reduced by the $25 Entry Fee which will go to Gordonm888.

*This means Gaming711 will directly receive $20.

7.) Miplet---Receives $10 for Perfection Bonus; this will not change that he pays Gordon $25.

Mission146 must make payment arrangements as follows

Gordonm888: $305 in Direct Prizes and $125 in Entry Fees on behalf of FourFiveFace, IndyJeffrey, PlayYourCardsRight, JohnZimbo and Gaming711 for a total of $430.

FourFiveFace will receive $180 on direct.

IndyJeffrey will receive $95 on direct.

PlayYourCardsRight will receive $50 on direct.

JohnZimbo will receive $50 on direct.

Gaming711 will receive $20 on direct.

Miplet will receive $10 on direct.

In total, Mission146 will pay out $835. The sum of all possible ADDED prizes was $830, but turning the $43.33 Perfection Bonus into $45 (x3) brought it up $5.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS OWE GORDONM888 $25:

1.) VegasBrent
2.) JimRockford
3.) JML24
4.) Wizard
5.) JW17
6.) KSDJDJ
7.) JohnnyQ
8.) Miplet
9.) GenWyzgy
10.) SOOPOO
11.) AZDuffman
12.) Joeman
13.) EdCollins

This represents $325 in Entry Fees; Mission is paying $125 on behalf of five other participants in Entry Fees, the total is $450 in Entry Fees and $250 for First Place for a total of $700 for finishing in First Place. The additional $55 going to Gordonm888 is Perfection Bonus.

If you are on the list to pay Gordonm888 $25, then please make any such arrangements with him, via PM, at your earliest convenience.
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January 9th, 2023 at 9:38:03 AM permalink
I also want to say that I hope we have more players next season!

I want to be honest with you guys about something; I really kind of have to drag myself to doing the contest every year, but it ends up being worth it when I see all of the fun everyone has---particularly the first couple and last couple weeks of the season.

I also appreciate the heck out of all of the little, "Hellos," "Thank You's," other notes and little jokes and trash talk that you guys send in the PMs sometimes when you send your Picks. Those little things really brighten my day a lot and it helps remind me that you guys really enjoy this simple little game.

Anyway, next season, I'm going to make it a point to post up the new version of this thread earlier and try to send out some invites to the game to everyone who has ever played, so maybe we can get some back on board.

I also want to admit that a few people were paid for last year's contest much later than they should have been, which won't happen this time around as I am paying everyone for this contest before the Playoff Picks Game ends, in fact, I'll be doing it next week. I don't want to get into details, but I have some psychological stuff...especially last year, but I've been in a much better mindset lately...which I ascribe to talking to people less often; I don't mean you guys, of course.

The Playoff Picks Game will be paid out immediately after its conclusion, the day after the Super Bowl (if I hear back from everyone that day) and then I will be announcing the NCAAW March Madness game contest and rules shortly after. The NCAAW March Madness game, similar to the Playoff Picks Game, will NOT have an Entry Fee and all prizes will be furnished either by myself or by myself and others should anyone choose to donate. I would probably recommend, if you are going to potentially donate at all, not to do so until we see how many participants we get.

The NCAAW March Madness contest will take place regardless of the number of participants; however, the prize pool might increase based on how many commitments I can get ahead of time. If you played in this game, then you will receive a PM notification when the March Madness thread goes up.

Gordon asked, "Why NCAAW," essentially---the answer to that is because there are about a half million bracket contests for Mens' Hoops already. It's not any kind of a social justice thing; it's just that I don't want to host a variation of the same game you can already play at a bazillion different outlets. That's why I like the NFL Picks Game that we have here; the rules are a bit unique. You'll also notice that I try to change up the Playoff Picks game sometimes, which is also for the reason of having a unique game for folks to play.
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January 9th, 2023 at 10:47:36 AM permalink
What is the entry fee for Playoff Picks game?
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January 9th, 2023 at 10:49:49 AM permalink
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What is the entry fee for Playoff Picks game?
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There's no Entry Fee.
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January 9th, 2023 at 11:01:21 AM permalink
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How bad is JohnZimbo at picking NFL Games?

JohnZimbo is so bad at picking NFL Games that, if he walked into South Point, an independent sportsbook, this week and bet $10,000,000 on the Chargers to cover the spread, not only would they take the bet, they wouldn't even move the Line after.

Oh, how soon we forget! Didn't JohnZimbo win last year's contest? First-to-Worst is a most impressive accomplishment!
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January 9th, 2023 at 11:17:53 AM permalink
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Quote: Mission146

How bad is JohnZimbo at picking NFL Games?

JohnZimbo is so bad at picking NFL Games that, if he walked into South Point, an independent sportsbook, this week and bet $10,000,000 on the Chargers to cover the spread, not only would they take the bet, they wouldn't even move the Line after.

Oh, how soon we forget! Didn't JohnZimbo win last year's contest? First-to-Worst is a most impressive accomplishment!
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Great point! Ha!

That makes two players who are going to be working on the Trifecta next season, assuming I'm not missing any.
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January 9th, 2023 at 11:41:08 AM permalink
To be fair...I started this season out so poorly that after about week 4 I was trying to pick losers...and did a good job at it :)
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January 9th, 2023 at 12:49:28 PM permalink
miplet has every intention on upgrading his program to whatever line source we use.

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January 9th, 2023 at 1:07:31 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

2.) Thank you to EdCollins for creating the Picks grading program all those years ago that makes this game 87.2% easier and faster to run. We had a few hiccups in the early years, very minor, but now I don't even manually check grades anymore.

You're welcome. Not a problem. Thanks for hosting.

As I look back in my files, the first year we used the grading program was 2013! Really? Wow! Hard to believe the program is almost ten years old and WILL be ten years old next season.

Here's a list of the players who played that year, in 2013: 10DollarBri, Aluisio, AssWhooperMcDaddy, AyeCarumba, BeachBumBabs, BeardGoat, BoyMimbo, Boz, Buzzard, DeeDubbs, DuckManKilla, EdCollins, EdgeLooker, FRGamble, FourFiveFace, JML24, JW17, JohnZimbo, Jon, KMUMF, KeyserSoze, Knuckleball3, Malaru, MidWestAP, MinnesotaJoe, Miplet, Mission146, NCFatCat, OdiousGambit, Paradigm, RDW4POTUS, Rstrata, SOOPOO, SteelDCo, StrictlyAP, TGarrettCPA, Ten2Win, Terapined, TheCessPit, Vendman1, Wizard, YouCanBetOnThat, ZoomZoom8

My favorite hiccup (bug). I remember the first time the a player picked the OVER/UNDER of a game when the total was 49. The program parsed the input, saw "49"... and assumed the player was picking the 49ers that week! LOL
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January 9th, 2023 at 1:25:23 PM permalink
Congratulations to Gordonm888!

Thanks to Mission and EdCollins for this contest. It was a lot of fun!
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January 9th, 2023 at 1:56:22 PM permalink
Thank you very much to Mission - and to everyone in the contest. I have been playing this NFL picks contest since I originally joined the forum. My only previous pay was winning the Mr. Average award once. As I recall it, I have never previously been in the top three finishers in the contest, so I was astonished to win it this year. Props to FourFiveFace, VegasBrent, IndyJeffrey and JimRockford for their great job of picking this year.

We all know that Mission was joking, but forgive me for being defensive and stating again that as an administrator I have no capability of reading any other person's private messages. In Week 18, I was downcast when I realized that I had made two ATS picks, the 49ers and Vikings, that no other contestant had picked. At that moment, I honestly felt I had a better chance of going 0-6 than 6-0 - especially since I had just gone 1-5 in the previous week, Week 17. I mean, hey, I'm just a blind squirrel . . .

So, let's look forward to having fun in Mission's NFL playoff picks contest and women's college BB playoff contest. And, thanks again to Mission for financing and operating these contests.
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January 9th, 2023 at 3:51:48 PM permalink
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To be fair...I started this season out so poorly that after about week 4 I was trying to pick losers...and did a good job at it :)
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Aside from the necessary roasting for the, "You Suck," prize, I believe this is true. I think you might have mentioned that you were going to try to tank fairly early in.
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January 9th, 2023 at 4:09:57 PM permalink
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2.) Thank you to EdCollins for creating the Picks grading program all those years ago that makes this game 87.2% easier and faster to run. We had a few hiccups in the early years, very minor, but now I don't even manually check grades anymore.

You're welcome. Not a problem. Thanks for hosting.

As I look back in my files, the first year we used the grading program was 2013! Really? Wow! Hard to believe the program is almost ten years old and WILL be ten years old next season.

Here's a list of the players who played that year, in 2013: 10DollarBri, Aluisio, AssWhooperMcDaddy, AyeCarumba, BeachBumBabs, BeardGoat, BoyMimbo, Boz, Buzzard, DeeDubbs, DuckManKilla, EdCollins, EdgeLooker, FRGamble, FourFiveFace, JML24, JW17, JohnZimbo, Jon, KMUMF, KeyserSoze, Knuckleball3, Malaru, MidWestAP, MinnesotaJoe, Miplet, Mission146, NCFatCat, OdiousGambit, Paradigm, RDW4POTUS, Rstrata, SOOPOO, SteelDCo, StrictlyAP, TGarrettCPA, Ten2Win, Terapined, TheCessPit, Vendman1, Wizard, YouCanBetOnThat, ZoomZoom8

My favorite hiccup (bug). I remember the first time the a player picked the OVER/UNDER of a game when the total was 49. The program parsed the input, saw "49"... and assumed the player was picking the 49ers that week! LOL
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You are quite welcome and I also remember that one!

Just for the record, EdCollins' program doesn't care about formatting nearly as much as I do; I only have strict formatting rules in the event that I would ever need to manually grade the Picks. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say that not having all the Picks formatted the same way can easily add a half hour to that process. The way I usually do it (when it needs to be done manually) is that I memorize all possible results for two games and just go down the list and grade those games all at once, then move on and do two more games, etc.

I can't believe this game has been going for over ten years! Also, look at all the folks who have come and gone; I remember many of those names from being before one of the two great AP exoduses from the Forum. Everyone openly talks about the same stuff on Twitter now, at least as far as beating machines directly goes.
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January 9th, 2023 at 4:11:34 PM permalink
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Congratulations to Gordonm888!

Thanks to Mission and EdCollins for this contest. It was a lot of fun!
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You are very welcome!
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January 9th, 2023 at 4:13:05 PM permalink
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Thank you very much to Mission - and to everyone in the contest. I have been playing this NFL picks contest since I originally joined the forum. My only previous pay was winning the Mr. Average award once. As I recall it, I have never previously been in the top three finishers in the contest, so I was astonished to win it this year. Props to FourFiveFace, VegasBrent, IndyJeffrey and JimRockford for their great job of picking this year.

We all know that Mission was joking, but forgive me for being defensive and stating again that as an administrator I have no capability of reading any other person's private messages. In Week 18, I was downcast when I realized that I had made two ATS picks, the 49ers and Vikings, that no other contestant had picked. At that moment, I honestly felt I had a better chance of going 0-6 than 6-0 - especially since I had just gone 1-5 in the previous week, Week 17. I mean, hey, I'm just a blind squirrel . . .

So, let's look forward to having fun in Mission's NFL playoff picks contest and women's college BB playoff contest. And, thanks again to Mission for financing and operating these contests.
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You are extremely welcome! I am running out of superlatives to place before the word, 'Welcome.'

It looks like you'll be in line for a potential Triple Crown next season, as well!
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PlayYourCardsRight, haven't you won the, "You Suck," bonus before? At this rate, you'll probably win the whole thing next year. It's actually been suggested in the past that, instead of .500 for most average, I start doing closest to the mean. I don't mean to be mean, but the mean was dreadful this year, so maybe I'll do that. I'm usually lazy and copy/paste the rules from the previous year and change dates, so it'll probably end up being closest to .500 again. Either way, you NAILED it! Your only mistake was not making the Perfection Bonus four ways with a win as you would have got Most Average anyway!



Yes, I won "You Suck" a few years ago.

And I should have known never to trust Mike McCarthy ....

I did win the season pickem points race in my two confidence pools also, and had Green Bay won, I would have also gotten a weekly prize.

So a nice turnaround from total suckitude!
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I wanted to add some interesting numbers to the mix. These were done with pen and paper, so accuracy isn't guaranteed.

The numbers are only from this year's contest.

When more than 50% of players (10 or more) had the same pick, the record was 3 - 7 (30%). I had noticed this and that is what prompted me to dig further into the numbers.

When more than 33% and up to 50% of players (7 - 9 players) had the same pick, the record was 22 - 13 - 1 (62.9%).

When more than 25% and up to 33% of players (5 or 6 players) had the same pick, the record was 25 - 37 - 2 (40.3%).

Theoretically, you may have won 60% of bets made using this information (59 - 37 - 3). Theoretically.

This is a small sample size and very far from scientific, so it remains to be seen if there's anything to this.

There were many games decided by half a point, so this cements the idea of having many "outs."
It's not a sin if you don't win, but it's a tragedy if you don't try. Be happy and have fun!
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