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January 20th, 2020 at 2:25:54 PM permalink
Wow. I never win anything. I'm in the running for Mr. Average. Which if I win, of course, my wife will say "You overachieved."
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January 20th, 2020 at 6:30:44 PM permalink
Mission, are you going to post the props or do you want me to put them together?
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January 21st, 2020 at 5:09:56 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Mission, are you going to post the props or do you want me to put them together?



I was going to do them at the same time I put the lines up (next week), but you can come up with them if you like. I think 6-7 of them would have been the same.
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January 28th, 2020 at 3:36:08 PM permalink
So...prop list coming soon from one of you?
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So...prop list coming soon from one of you?



Same time as the lines, likely Thursday.
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January 30th, 2020 at 2:10:11 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Super Bowl Lines and ten questions are as follows:

49ers (+1) @ Chiefs (-1) O/U 54.5

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?

8.) 8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?
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January 30th, 2020 at 3:06:36 PM permalink
Geez Mission...... no good ones like number of vowels for first TD scorer.... Under/Over 2,5?
Will anyone other than Jimmy G or Patrick M throw a pass?
Will there be a successful coaches challenge?
Total yards on punt returns.... over/under 31.5?
Will either team ever lead by more than 13 points?
Will both teams have a lead after the first quarter?
And...... will Scott Norwood be mentioned during the second half?


I sent my answers in already.

I did have Chiefs/49ers in my pre playoff selections.....

LOL.... edit..... I DID NOT have Chiefs /49ers..... I had ravens.....
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January 30th, 2020 at 3:22:19 PM permalink
Howdy... As mentioned in the OP we have $100 set aside for the prop bet / super bowl. Here are the rules for this $100. There will be 3 prizes. 1st- $60, 2nd- $25, and 3rd $15. Here are the rules. This contest is a separate contest than the original playoff contest. The points will be determined in a different fashion than the original playoff game. Sorry if this gets confusing but it is free soooooo.. yeah.
1. Submit your game spread pick as defined in Missions post above, submit the over/under pick as defined in Missions post above, answer the ten prop questions that Mission posted. These picks must be submitted to Mission on time as stipulated in the playoff rules. The same answers that you use for the playoff game will be used for this contest.
2. On top of the above answers you must submit a final score. This can be given to me or you can add it to your picks to Mission. The answer to this question has no effect on your playoff picks. I am not looking for a total score.. I want the actual score. Something like Steelers 49 - Patriots 10 (except use the teams in the super bowl). I am sending my picks to Mission as soon as I type this so no worries about me seeing your score.
3. Scoring: Spread pick is worth 3 points, O/U is worth 3 points, each prop question is worth 2 points. The distance you are from the scores will be negative points. Each team will be done separately and the combined will be used as well. So in my 49-10 example above. If the Steelers win 55-0, I would lose 6 (55-49) points on the Steelers, 10 (0-10) points for the patriots, and 4 (59-55) points for the total. Your final score for this contest will be your total earned points - the score deduction. Highest score wins. There is no tie breaker so ties will be split. I am not paying out anything less than $10 so if there are any prizes under $10 then we will wager that money on a game of my choosing to see if we can get over $10. If you are part of a tie and and I owe you money from one of the other payouts then you will receive your portion and the others will be wagering on a game.
4. If I screwed up anything on these rules, I reserve the right to make a change.
5. If you send Mission your picks for the playoff game but do not send in a final score of the game then you are eliminated from this game.
6. Your score does not have to be inline with any of your picks. I might like 49ers and under but my final score is submitted as 49ers losing 74-10.
7. Good luck figuring out my mess
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January 30th, 2020 at 3:23:31 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Geez Mission...... no good ones like number of vowels for first TD scorer.... Under/Over 2,5?
Will anyone other than Jimmy G or Patrick M throw a pass?
Will there be a successful coaches challenge?
Total yards on punt returns.... over/under 31.5?
Will either team ever lead by more than 13 points?
Will both teams have a lead after the first quarter?
And...... will Scott Norwood be mentioned during the second half?


I sent my answers in already.

I did have Chiefs/49ers in my pre playoff selections.....



Soopoo don't forget to read the rules to the extra game. You sent in your picks before I finished typing them.
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January 30th, 2020 at 3:43:14 PM permalink
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6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)



Interesting.

I know that the victory formation QB kneel-downs at game end are factored into the QBs rushing yards total , so I’d assume they also count statistically as rushing attempts.

Could be as many as 3 rushing attempts.
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January 30th, 2020 at 3:52:32 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Interesting.

I know that the victory formation QB kneel-downs at game end are factored into the QBs rushing yards total , so I’d assume they also count statistically as rushing attempts.

Could be as many as 3 rushing attempts.



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January 31st, 2020 at 5:15:51 AM permalink
Just sent my picks to Mission so I don't forget. Might change them.
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January 31st, 2020 at 11:19:31 AM permalink
In our first entry to this Playoffs contest, Mission asked, as a tiebreaker, that we pick the two teams that would be in the SuperBowl.

I just realized that the pick I submitted to Mission was "the Ravens vs the Chiefs." LOL, they are both in the same conference. Um . . . maybe this was a sharp AP move on my part to assure that I picked one participant correctly?
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January 31st, 2020 at 1:45:35 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

In our first entry to this Playoffs contest, Mission asked, as a tiebreaker, that we pick the two teams that would be in the SuperBowl.

I just realized that the pick I submitted to Mission was "the Ravens vs the Chiefs." LOL, they are both in the same conference. Um . . . maybe this was a sharp AP move on my part to assure that I picked one participant correctly?



Lol you are going to be run off the board for mentioning an AP move
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Quote: gordonm888

In our first entry to this Playoffs contest, Mission asked, as a tiebreaker, that we pick the two teams that would be in the SuperBowl.

I just realized that the pick I submitted to Mission was "the Ravens vs the Chiefs." LOL, they are both in the same conference. Um . . . maybe this was a sharp AP move on my part to assure that I picked one participant correctly?



I give you credit for choosing 2 teams that were in the playoffs
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February 2nd, 2020 at 7:08:25 PM permalink
Mission did not post everyones picks and it does not appear that he has even opened my PM yet. Depending on when he posts them I will get the payouts down as quickly as I can but I have a few things going on this week so if he posts them in my bad spots then it will take me a few days.
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February 2nd, 2020 at 7:10:31 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Mission did not post everyones picks and it does not appear that he has even opened my PM yet. Depending on when he posts them I will get the payouts down as quickly as I can but I have a few things going on this week so if he posts them in my bad spots then it will take me a few days.



Sorry about that, super busy day today, didn’t even watch much of the game. Actually, I haven’t watched any, just followed the stats here and there.

I’m going to put everything up tomorrow, the questions all have to be manually graded anyway. I didn’t even make picks.
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February 2nd, 2020 at 7:39:14 PM permalink
btw, here are the answers (at least I believe)

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?
YES (10 in each quarter)
2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?
NO (10 in the 2nd, 21 in the 4th)
3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?
YES (49ers called tails and was correct)
4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?
NO (SF scored a FG)
5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?
NO (286 to 219)
6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)
YES (had 9)
7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?
YES (61 to 30)
8.) 8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?
NO all extra point attempts
9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?
YES 10 in the 3rd and 21 in the 4th
10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?
YES 49ers in the 4th qtr
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February 2nd, 2020 at 9:39:19 PM permalink
I'm feeling pretty confident about my answers on this, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow!

My entry:

Chiefs 31-18
Under 54.5
Total pts 49
6/10 prop questions right

Anybody do better?
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February 3rd, 2020 at 12:46:01 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm feeling pretty confident about my answers on this, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow!

My entry:

Chiefs 31-18
Under 54.5
Total pts 49
6/10 prop questions right

Anybody do better?



49'ers 27
Chiefs 24
Total points: 51
7/10 props correct.

Edit: I also got the spread and O/U picks correct for Mission's game. The scores above were submitted for GWAE's contest, and aren't the same one's I submitted for Mission's.

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3. Scoring: Spread pick is worth 3 points, O/U is worth 3 points, each prop question is worth 2 points. The distance you are from the scores will be negative points. Each team will be done separately and the combined will be used as well. So in my 49-10 example above. If the Steelers win 55-0, I would lose 6 (55-49) points on the Steelers, 10 (0-10) points for the patriots, and 4 (59-55) points for the total. Your final score for this contest will be your total earned points - the score deduction. Highest score wins. ...



So for GWAE's game, I get:

Spread - 3 pts.
O/U - 3 pts.
Props - 7x2=14 pts
Total earned: 3+3+14 = 20
Deductions: KC (-7), SF (-7) = 14
My Final GWAE Contest Score: 6
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February 3rd, 2020 at 2:08:14 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

49'ers 27
Chiefs 24
Total points: 51
7/10 props correct.

Edit: I also got the spread and O/U picks correct for Mission's game. The scores above were submitted for GWAE's contest, and aren't the same one's I submitted for Mission's.

Quote: GWAE

...
3. Scoring: Spread pick is worth 3 points, O/U is worth 3 points, each prop question is worth 2 points. The distance you are from the scores will be negative points. Each team will be done separately and the combined will be used as well. So in my 49-10 example above. If the Steelers win 55-0, I would lose 6 (55-49) points on the Steelers, 10 (0-10) points for the patriots, and 4 (59-55) points for the total. Your final score for this contest will be your total earned points - the score deduction. Highest score wins. ...



So for GWAE's game, I get:

Spread - 3 pts.
O/U - 3 pts.
Props - 7x2=14 pts
Total earned: 3+3+14 = 20
Deductions: KC (-7), SF (-7) = 14
My Final GWAE Contest Score: 6



I almost screwed up... but almost left it in there to see what it did to the game. Original rules I had 50 to winner and 50 to worst score. With the deduction someone could have said googleplex to googleplex to get the most deductions. Would have been interesting to see who went for some crazy number and who went for the high score. But decided it might make the game stupid.
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February 3rd, 2020 at 2:50:22 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm feeling pretty confident about my answers on this, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow!

My entry:

Chiefs 31-18
Under 54.5
Total pts 49
6/10 prop questions right

Anybody do better?



Those are pretty good.

Looks like scolist is my only competition for the bottom. Scolist what did you do for picks. I picked 49ers and under. Was 5/10 on props
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February 3rd, 2020 at 2:53:47 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba



So for GWAE's game, I get:

Spread - 3 pts.
O/U - 3 pts.
Props - 7x2=14 pts
Total earned: 3+3+14 = 20
Deductions: KC (-7), SF (-7) = 14
My Final GWAE Contest Score: 6



Shouldn't there be three deductions... one for KC, one for SF, and one for the total score? (Per the rules, as I understand them.)
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February 3rd, 2020 at 3:09:28 PM permalink
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Shouldn't there be three deductions... one for KC, one for SF, and one for the total score? (Per the rules, as I understand them.)



That is correct.
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February 3rd, 2020 at 3:26:18 PM permalink
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That is correct.



I hit the total exactly. I should have noted the zero deduction to avoid confusion.
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February 3rd, 2020 at 9:53:25 PM permalink
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Those are pretty good.

Looks like scolist is my only competition for the bottom. Scolist what did you do for picks. I picked 49ers and under. Was 5/10 on props



I picked 49ers, and under. My final score I picked 49ers 33-Chiefs 30. Props are 3/10. But I would wait until the final results are posted because I may have screwed something up.
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February 4th, 2020 at 4:22:48 AM permalink
Quote: scolist

I picked 49ers, and under. My final score I picked 49ers 33-Chiefs 30. Props are 3/10. But I would wait until the final results are posted because I may have screwed something up.



Scolist- I didnt do the math but I think we might have tied for last (unless someone comes out of nowhere) If we tied would you like to split the last place prize $50 each or leave it to the tie breaker. I can honestly say I have no idea how the tie breaker works for last and I have no idea what teams I sent to Mission on the first week. Either way is fine with me, let me know.
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February 4th, 2020 at 4:24:57 AM permalink
Yes, we’ll do the scoring first and then determine if any tiebreakers are needed.

I’m going to start on the scoring in about an hour. I’m just about to go to the store and get another round of Amazon gift cards. I’m probably going to be on a ML (not Money Line) watchlist by the time I’m done! JK (I think)
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February 4th, 2020 at 6:19:40 AM permalink
Will someone please ask that lazy clown Mission146 to get on these results!!!!????

Okay, so first we are going to answer the Super Bowl Questions and form a list of those.

The second thing that we are going to do is tally up the total points per player.

Greetings!

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?

---YES, 10 for both.

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?

---YES, fewer points were scored in the second quarter.

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?

---YES, the 49ers correctly called tails.

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?

---NO, the first score of the game was a FG by SF.

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?

---NO, he had more, but not 100+ more.

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)

---YES, nine, according to ESPN. (Three kneels, so would still have had six)

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?

---YES (21 * 3) -2 = 61, which is actually more than the game total.

8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?

---NO

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?

---YES, 31 Points

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?

---YES, both teams failed once.

ANSWERS LIST:

1. Y
2.) Y
3.) Y
4.) N
5.) N
6.) Y
7.) Y
8.) N
9.) Y
10.) Y


Standings Before Game

Kuma: 15
Prozema: 15
SOOPOO: 14
EdCollins: 13
GordonM888: 13
Joeman: 13
PlayYourCardsRight: 13
Romes: 13
Sparty10K: 13
IndyJeffrey: 12
JohnZimbo: 12 Points
AyeCarumba: 11
Miplet: 11
Unjon: 11
Wizard: 11
DJATC: Disqualified
Mission146: Disqualified
Scolist: 10
BeachBumBabs: 10
JW17: 9***
KSDJDJ: 9***
GWAE: 8
JohnnyQ: 8***
Bruce1: Disqualified
Michael99000: Disqualified
Odious Gambit: Disqualified

All who say, "Disqualified," made no Picks one or more weeks. Mission146 did not make Super Bowl picks. Asterisks denote ineligibility for consolation prizes for one reason or another.
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February 4th, 2020 at 7:52:56 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Scolist- I didnt do the math but I think we might have tied for last (unless someone comes out of nowhere) If we tied would you like to split the last place prize $50 each or leave it to the tie breaker. I can honestly say I have no idea how the tie breaker works for last and I have no idea what teams I sent to Mission on the first week. Either way is fine with me, let me know.



I'm not sure how the tiebreaker works myself, so I'm all for splitting the prize.
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February 4th, 2020 at 7:53:23 AM permalink
Greetings!

The BIG GAME results are as follows! Picks will be presented in the order of the Standings at the time that the Picks were made, the official final standings will be presented at the bottom. Once again, here are the answers to the prop question, also, KC and UNDER were winners:

KANSAS CITY

ANSWERS LIST:
1. Y
2.) Y
3.) Y
4.) N
5.) N
6.) Y
7.) Y
8.) N
9.) Y
10.) Y

KUMA:

kuma:
Chiefs (-1)
Chiefs (under 54.5)
Final Score:
KC - 28
SF - 27

---Eight Points

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?
A: No (more points in third)

---Incorrect

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?
A: No (more points in second)

---Incorrect

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?
A: No

---Incorrect

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?
A: Yes

---Incorrect

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?
A: No

---Correct (Nine Points Running)

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)
A: No

---Incorrect

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be
MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?
A: Yes

---Correct (Ten Points Running)

8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?
A: No

---Correct (Eleven Points Running)

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?
A: No

---Incorrect

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?
A: Yes

---Correct (Twelve Points Total)

Prozema

Prozema:
49ers +1
49ers UNDER 54.5
Final score: KC 17 – SF 20

---Four Points

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter? NO

---Incorrect

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter? NO

---Incorrect

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct? YES

---Correct (Five Points Running)

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown? NO

---Correct (Six Points Running)

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo? NO

---Correct (Seven Points Running)

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries) NO

---Incorrect

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined? NO

---Incorrect

8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game? NO

---Correct (Eight Points Running)

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half? YES

---Correct (Nine Points Running)

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game? NO

---Incorrect, NINE total points.

SOOPOO

SOOPOO:
CHIEFS -1
OVER 54.5

---Four Points

1. Yes***
2. Yes***
3. Yes***
4. Yes
5. No***
6. No
7. Yes***
8. No***
9. Yes***
10. Yes***

12 TOTAL Points

EdCollins

EdCollins:
Chiefs -1 / Over

---Four Points

1. Yes***
2. Yes***
3. Yes***
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes***
7. Yes***
8. Yes
9. Yes***
10. Yes***

Eleven TOTAL points.

Gordonm888

Chiefs -1
Chiefs Over

---Four Points

1. No
2. Yes***
3. Yes***
4. No***
5. Yes
6. Yes***
7. Yes***
8. No***
9. Yes***
10. Yes.***

Twelve TOTAL points

Joeman

Joeman:
Chiefs -1
UNDER 54.5

Eight points

1 No
2 Yes***
3 Yes***
4 Yes
5 Yes
6 No
7 Yes***
8 No***
9 Yes***
10 Yes***

14 TOTAL points

PlayYourCardsRight

Did not play his cards at all, disqualified.

ROMES

49ers (+1)
49ers UNDER 54.5

---Four Points

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?
No

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?
Yes*** (Five Points Running)

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?
Yes*** (Six Points Running)

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?
Yes

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?
Yes

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)
Yes*** (Seven Points Running)

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?
No

8.) 8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?
Yes

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?
No

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?
Yes*** (Eight Points Running)

Sparty10K

Sparty10k:

49ers +1 under 54.5

---Four Points

1. No
2. Yes***
3. Yes***
4. Yes
5, No***
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes***
10. No

Eight TOTAL Points

IndyJeffrey

IndyJeffrey
49ers +1
49ers UNDER 54.5

---Four Points

No
Yes***
Yes***
No***
Yes
Yes***
Yes***
Yes
Yes***
No
49ers 30 Chiefs 24

Ten TOTAL Points

JohnZimbo

49ers +1
49ers under 54.5

---Four Points

1. No
2. No
3. Yes***
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes***

Six TOTAL Points

AyeCarumba

Ayecarumba:
Chiefs -1
Chiefs - Under 54.5

---Eight Points

1.) No
2.) No
3.) Yes***
4.) No***
5.) Yes
6.) Yes***
7.) Yes***
8.) Yes
9.) Yes***
10.) Yes***

Fourteen TOTAL Points

Miplet

Chiefs-1
Chiefs Under 54.5

---Eight Points

1 no
2 yes***
3 no
4 yes
5 no***
6 no
7 no
8 no***
9 no
10 yes***

Twelve TOTAL Points

UNJON

49ers +1
49ers UNDER 54.5

---Four Points

For GWAE Game:
49ers 27
Chiefs 21

Props:

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?

Yes***

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?

No

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?

Yes***

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?

Yes

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?

Yes

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)

Yes***

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?

Yes***

8.) 8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?

No***

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?

No

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?

Yes***

Ten TOTAL points

Wizard

No Super Bowl Picks, Disqualified.

Scolist

49ers +1
49ers over 54.5

0 Points

1) Less***
2) More
3) No
4) Yes
5) No***
6) Yes***
7) No
8) Yes
9) Yes***
10) No

Four TOTAL Points

BeachBumBabs

Chiefs -1
Under 54.5

Eight Points

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter? No

2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter? No

3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct? Yes***

4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown? No***

5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo? No***

6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries) yes***

7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined? No

8.) 8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game? Yes

9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half? No

10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game? Yes***

Thirteen TOTAL Points

JW17

49ers +1 OVER (0 Points)

Mathematically impossible, and does not qualify for consolation prizes.

KSDJDJ

Chiefs -1
Chiefs Under 54.5

---Eight points

1) No
2) No
3) No
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) Yes***
7) No
8) Yes
9) Yes***
10) Yes***

Eleven TOTAL Points

GWAE

49ers +1
49ers U 54.5

49ers 31- Chiefs 24

--Four Points

1.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the third quarter as in the first quarter?
YES***
2.) Will an equal or lesser number of points be scored in the second quarter as in the fourth quarter?
NO
3.) Will the team that calls the toss be correct?
YES***
4.) Will the first score of the game be a touchdown?
YES
5.) Will Patrick Mahomes have at least 100 more passing yards than Jimmy Garoppolo?
NO***
6.) Will Patrick Mahomes be credited with six or more rushes? (Not yards, number of carries)
NO
7.) If we multiply the points scored in the fourth quarter by three and then subtract two, will that result be MORE points than was scored in the first three quarters combined?
NO
8.) 8.) Will at least one two-point conversion be attempted in this game?
YES
9.) If overtime DOES NOT count, will 27 or more points be scored in the second half?
NO
10.) Will there be a failed 4th Down Conversion attempt in this game?
YES***

Eight TOTAL Points

OFFICIAL RESULTS

Kuma: 15 + 12 = 27 Points
Joeman: 13 + 14 = 27 Points
SOOPOO: 14 + 12 = 26 Points
AyeCarumba: 11 + 14 = 25 Points
GordonM888: 13 + 12 = 25 Points
EdCollins: 13 + 11 = 24 Points
Prozema 15 + 9 = 24 Points
Miplet: 11 + 12 = 23 Points
BeachBumBabs = 9 + 13 = 22 Points
IndyJeffrey: 12 + 10 = 22 Points
Unjon: 11 + 10 = 21 Points
Romes: 13 + 8 = 21 Points
Sparty10K 13 + 8 = 21 Points
KSDJDJ: 9 + 11 = 20 Points
JohnZimbo: 12 + 6 = 18 Points
Unjon 11 + 5 = 16 Points
GWAE: 8 + 8 = 16 Points
Scolist 10 + 4 = 14 Points


A FEW NOTES:

1.) For players who were disqualified for winning consolation prizes, full stats do not appear because it was only tracked until the point of mathematical elimination.

2.) I need clarification on Mr. Average. 42 was the maximum score possible in this game, therefore making 50% of that 21, a score shared by Unjon, Romes and Sparty10K and will go to normal tiebreaker procedures.

If this is supposed to be calculated some other way, please let me know.

3.) I don't understand why Super Bowl Picks were being included in with the last set of picks in terms of precise score, so I will try to figure that out and post whatever the results are that correspond with doing that. That will appear in a separate post.

Tiebreakers and Results

MR. AVERAGE: Unjon, Romes and Sparty10K all qualify and all scored 21 points, which is half of all possible points. All three also qualify

Romes: Saints 31 Patriots 17

Unjon: Ravens 34 Saints 21

Sparty10K: Ravens 31 Saints 23

***All three share the Saints, so that's a wash. None got any Super Bowl participant correct, so now we go to see if the Patriots or Ravens scored the most points throughout the Playoffs:

Ravens: 12

Patriots: 13

The Patriots scored one more point in the playoffs than did the Ravens, therefore, ROMES is the sole winner!

YOU SUCK: Scolist wins this one with the lowest score of 14 having made all qualifying picks!

Finally, we have a tie between Kuma and Joeman for first and second place! We now turn to their Super Bowl Picks made in Wild Card Week:

Kuma: Ravens 23 49ers 20

Joeman: Saints 34 Ravens 27

Kuma got a Super Bowl team correct and Joeman did not, therefore, KUMA is the first place winner!

Congratulations to our winners!!!!

FIRST PLACE: KUMA $200

SECOND PLACE: Joeman $100

MR. AVERAGE: ROMES $100

YOU SUCK: SCOLIST $100



Okay, so the last thing I have to figure out is why people were making Super Bowl Picks in the final PM as to scores, these results will be put into a separate post.
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Howdy... As mentioned in the OP we have $100 set aside for the prop bet / super bowl. Here are the rules for this $100. There will be 3 prizes. 1st- $60, 2nd- $25, and 3rd $15. Here are the rules. This contest is a separate contest than the original playoff contest. The points will be determined in a different fashion than the original playoff game. Sorry if this gets confusing but it is free soooooo.. yeah.
1. Submit your game spread pick as defined in Missions post above, submit the over/under pick as defined in Missions post above, answer the ten prop questions that Mission posted. These picks must be submitted to Mission on time as stipulated in the playoff rules. The same answers that you use for the playoff game will be used for this contest.
2. On top of the above answers you must submit a final score. This can be given to me or you can add it to your picks to Mission. The answer to this question has no effect on your playoff picks. I am not looking for a total score.. I want the actual score. Something like Steelers 49 - Patriots 10 (except use the teams in the super bowl). I am sending my picks to Mission as soon as I type this so no worries about me seeing your score.
3. Scoring: Spread pick is worth 3 points, O/U is worth 3 points, each prop question is worth 2 points. The distance you are from the scores will be negative points. Each team will be done separately and the combined will be used as well. So in my 49-10 example above. If the Steelers win 55-0, I would lose 6 (55-49) points on the Steelers, 10 (0-10) points for the patriots, and 4 (59-55) points for the total. Your final score for this contest will be your total earned points - the score deduction. Highest score wins. There is no tie breaker so ties will be split. I am not paying out anything less than $10 so if there are any prizes under $10 then we will wager that money on a game of my choosing to see if we can get over $10. If you are part of a tie and and I owe you money from one of the other payouts then you will receive your portion and the others will be wagering on a game.
4. If I screwed up anything on these rules, I reserve the right to make a change.
5. If you send Mission your picks for the playoff game but do not send in a final score of the game then you are eliminated from this game.
6. Your score does not have to be inline with any of your picks. I might like 49ers and under but my final score is submitted as 49ers losing 74-10.
7. Good luck figuring out my mess



UM.....I don't have seventeen hours available right now, so I am going to do the results for this separately later today.

The Rules Simplified

STEP 1:

Spread Correct: 3 Points
Over/Under: 3 Points
Props: 2 Points Each

STEP 2:

THE POINTS STUFF:

A. The winner is irrelevant.

B. Pick a score for each team.

---The number of points over or under you are, per team, will be subtracted from your score in Step 1.

STEP 3:

A. Your two teams will then have your suggested scores added together. One point will be subtracted for the number of points your combined score is off from the ACTUAL game total.

STEP 4:

Whoever has the most remaining points, even if that amount be negative, will be in the Top 3 for this prize.

NOTE

Everything is already pretty much set as far as the other stuff goes, so I can use the earlier results to determine starting points. I will have to put disqualified players back, which I will do, and will put their full results in a separate post. I will then make a post that will begin with the starting totals from Step 1. I will put each prediction that was made from STEP 1 and assign a number of points to be subtracted based on those results.

I will then subtract the number of points required from each player to get a new total, which will determine the winners.

I will see you guys the next time I have a few hours today.
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Mission. If you want me to do the calculations just let me know.
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Mission, please note that I sent my team score predictions for GWAE's bonus contest to him, per his posted rules. I didn't send them to you (one, because GWAE posted his rules after I had already submitted answers for your contest; and two, to avoid confusion). I don't know if anyone else did as well, so please coordinate with GWAE to get all the submissions before calculating the final standings for the GWAE bonus SB contest. Thanks!
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Yes I have a few. I will send them to mission in a few min.
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They have been sent to mission.
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Mission. If you want me to do the calculations just let me know.



Nah, I’ve got it! I was just being super salty as a joke and also that I thought I was basically all done.
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Greetings!

The next three posts (this one included) will be for the purpose of figuring out who won the last $100 Super Bowl prize from GWAE!

First of all, I want to thank GWAE for his generous (probably even more so than he ever thought!) playoff donations as well as for coming up with this final prize. While it'll take a minute to grade it, I do think it's a brilliant way to do it for a one-time event. No way I would ever run the entire game with this mechanism, (though one of the playoff games was a watered down version) but it's great for a one time thing!

Step 1

List and grade all Picks who were not fully listed due to being disqualified and/or mathematically eliminated:

JW17:
49ers +1 OVER

0 Points

1. NO
2. NO
3. YES***
4. YES
5. NO***
6. YES***
7. YES***
8. YES
9. YES***
10. YES***

JOHNNYQ:

49ers (+1)
49ers U 54.5***

1.) NO

2.) YES***

3.) YES***

4.) YES

5.) NO***

6.) YES***

7.) YES***

8.) YES

9.) YES***

10.) NO

That was easier than I thought, for some reason, I thought there were more than two.

REMAINING:

Step 2 (Next Post)

Rescore based on three points for each correct pick and two points for each correct prop, list by score.

Fortunately, I kind of made this easy on myself inadvertently because I already put asterisks by correct prop answers.

I'm going to do this part in my head because all are listed, if you think something is wrong, feel free to speak up.

Step 3

List Super Bowl specific picks and score accordingly.
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STEP 2---STARTING POINTS

Greetings!

Everyone will start with these points before Super Bowl Picks are considered as follows:

SOOPOO: 19
GORDONM888: 19
AYECARUMBA: 18
JOEMAN: 18
EDCOLLINS: 17
BEACHBUMBABS: 16
JOHNNYQ: 15
INDYJEFFREY: 15
UNJON: 15
MIPLET: 14
KUMA: 14
PROZEMA: 13
KSDJDJ: 12
JW17: 12
GWAE: 11
ROMES: 11
SPARTY10K: 11
SCOLIST: 10
JOHNZIMBO: 7

Okay, so the last thing for me to do will be to grade the Super Bowl Picks (if made) for each player and come up with the final scores!
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STEP 3---SUPER BOWL SPECIFIC PICKS AND FINAL RESULTS

Okay, so these will be presented in the order of the list from the above post. The way this will work is that I will list the this way:

Player---Super Bowl Pick---Current Points

---SF POINTS OFF---KC POINTS OFF---TOTAL POINTS OFF

Current Points - Subtracted Points = Final Score

Got it? I think I do, so off we go!

ACTUAL RESULT: SF: 20, KC: 31---TOTAL 51

SOOPOO---49ers 24, Chiefs 31---19 Points

---4---0---4---

19 - 8 = 11

GORDONM888---49ers 28, Chiefs 31----19 Points

---8---0---8---

19-16 = 3

AYECARUMBA---49ers 27, Chiefs 24---18 Points

7---7---0

18 -14 = 4

JOEMAN---49ers 27, Chiefs 24---18 Points

7---7---0

18-14 = 4

EDCOLLINS---SF 27, KC 28----17 Points

---7---3---4

17 - 14 = 3

BEACHBUMBABS---49ers 18, Chiefs 31---16 Points (Dddddaaayyyuuuummmm!!!!)

---2---0---2

16 - 4 = 12

JOHNNYQ---SF 27, KC 24---15 Points

---7----7----0

15 - 14 = 1

INDYJEFFREY---49ers 30, Chiefs 24----15 Points

---10---7---3----

15 - 20 = (5)

UNJON---49ers 27, Chiefs 21----15 Points

---7---10---3---

15 - 20 = (5)

MIPLET---49ers 24, Chiefs 27---14 Points

---4---4---0

14 - 8 = 6

KUMA---SF 27, KC 28----14 Points

---7---3---4

14 - 14 = 0

PROZEMA---SF 20, KC 17---13 Points

---0---14---14---

13 - 28 = (15)

KSDJDJ---49ers 24, Chiefs 28----12 Points

---4---3---1---

12 - 8 = 4

JW17---DISQUALIFIED (NO SB SCORE)

GWAE---49ers 31, Chiefs 24---11 Points

---11---7---4---

11-22 = (11)

ROMES---DISQUALIFIED---NO SB PICK

SPARTY10K---49ers 30, Chiefs 24---11 Points

---10---7---3---

11 - 20 = (9)

SCOLIST---49ers 33, Chiefs 30---10 Points

---13---1---12

10 - 26 = (16)

JOHNZIMBO---49ers 27, Chiefs 24---7 Points

---7---7---0----

7 - 14 = (7)

BEACHBUMBABS +12 Points
SOOPOO +11 Points
MIPLET +6 Points

JOEMAN +4 Points
AYECARUMBA +4 Points
KSDJDJ +4 Points
EDCOLLINS +3 Points
GORDONM888 +3 Points
JOHNNYQ +1 Point
KUMA 0 Points
INDYJEFFREY (5) Points
UNJON (5) Points
JOHNZIMBO (7) Points
SPARTY10K (9) Points
GWAE (11) Points
PROZEMA (15) Points
SCOLIST (16) Points
JW17 DISQUALIFIED
ROMES DISQUALIFIED

Congratulations to BeachBumBabs ($60), SOOPOO ($25) and MIPLET ($15) for taking the top three on the Super Bowl Picks! Only being off by four total points was nothing short of prescient by BBB!!!
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Scolist

49ers +1
49ers over 54.5
0 Points
1) Less***
2) More
3) No
4) Yes***
5) No***
6) Yes***
7) No
8) Yes
9) Yes***
10) No

Five TOTAL Points



fyi... The answer to #4 is NO and yet you graded Scolist's YES to that question correctly. He should have four total points instead of five. (It doesn't affect anything.)
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OFFICIAL RESULTS
BeachBumBabs = 10 + 13 = 23 Points


fyi... I believe Babs had 9 points going into this final week (3+4+2), not 10. I think she finishes with 22 points.

(It doesn't affect anything.)
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Correct on both counts! I'll change these things, thank you!
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Congrats to all the winners.. I will be arranging payment in the next day or so. I am traveling for business tonight and tomorrow so more than likely payments will happen Thursday and Friday.

If you have a prize please let me know your two or three preferred payment methods. Giftcards (amazon, walmart, target, iTunes, or really any giftcard that you want) are my preferred methods but I can make most anything work except for anything apple related.

When I am in front of a computer I will get official PMs out to everyone.

Thanks again Mission for taking you valuable time to run it again. I think this year went very smoothly and I cant think if a single person that complained or disagreed.
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Good contest. Thanks to those who funded and ran the game.
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Good contest. Thanks to those who funded and ran the game.



Now we just got to get through summer to get back to football season
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Good afternoon. Thanks again to everyone that played. I hope next year we can have a similar run and have this kind of money to play with. I have not done the math on any of these prizes and are going by what Mission posted. I will give 24 hours for anyone to dispute them. Tomorrow at 3pm eastern if there are no disputes I will consider these official.

Playoff game
FIRST PLACE: KUMA $200
SECOND PLACE: Joeman $125 -- reg season prize included
MR. AVERAGE: ROMES $100
YOU SUCK: SCOLIST $100

Superbowl game
BeachBumBabs $60
SOOPOO $25
MIPLET $15

All winners please PM me with your 2 preferred payment methods. Once the results are official I will get the payments sent out.

I personally prefer giftcards so if you can make that work it will be the easiest method. I do not have any accounts such as PayPal so I am not sure if there is a long process to verify and such to set those up. If so it might take an extra day or so if required.
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