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AxelWolf
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November 17th, 2018 at 11:35:25 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Yeah you miissed the part that its not about making money for me. I want to enjoy sports and know that its a fair game and that is a distant memory to me now. After all Ive noticed over the past 3-5 years its clear to me these games are not random. The refs have extreme bias towards one side depending on the spread of the game, but its much more apparent when a huge underdog is winning as they wont let that team win the big moneyline bet as that would destroy the sportsbooks.

For example, If a huge underdog is blowing out the favorite as what happened yesterday, then the refs extremely favor the other team to catch up and vice versa if a huge favorite is winning, the refs yhen fabor the underdog to catch up. Thr whole thing is one programmed event, which is quite sad to me because life to me is much more important than making money. Knowing that sports are completely fixed has destroyed a very importamt part of my life and another reason why money has destroyed society. People are so blinded by chasing another goose egg that they lose sight of what is truly important. So sad and pathetic.

I'm sorry that you have convinced yourself that sports is rigged and that its ruined an important part of your life. You need to find something else to fill that void.

OK, so now what? Sit around here and bitch about it while trying to convince us drones who will never understand, OR use that information and make a killing for yourself?

You want an investigation and things to change? Here's an idea, use your information to crush the books and eventually they will be forced to change things. And if not, at least you will get rich in the meantime.

The fact that you are not using this information to your advantage shows me that you don't fully trust your beliefs.
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November 17th, 2018 at 11:35:33 AM permalink
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Yeah you missed the part that its not just about making money for me. I want to enjoy sports, sit back and root for my favorite team after a long day, etc and know that its a fair game, but that is a distant memory to me now. Whether you can make a long term profit by just betting these favorites or taking advantage of the fix is irrelevant to me because my whole point of these posts were to say how it being rigged and having a bias has destroyed sports for me as a whole because it is not a random event and the equivalent of watching WWE.

After everything Ive noticed over the past 3-5 years, it's now officially clear to me these games are not random as they should be. The refs in all pro sports, especially the NBA have extreme bias towards one side depending on the current score of the game in relation to the spread of the game. It's much more apparent when a huge underdog is winning as they wont let that team win the big moneyline bet as that would destroy the sportsbooks. The refs manage the game as best they can depending on the spread of the game if you watch the games carefully. The only time the spread gets out of reach is when its out of the ref's hands and a team shoots lights out.

For example, If a huge underdog is blowing out the favorite as what happened yesterday, then the refs extremely favor the favorite team to catch up and vice versa; if a huge favorite is winning, the refs then favor the underdog to catch up. The worst scenario is when like I said a huge underdog is actually WINNING the game, the refs do everything in their power to let the favorite catch up and WIN the game because of the big moneyline payout that would destroy the bookies.

The whole thing is one completely programmed event, which is quite sad to me because life to me is much more important than making money. Knowing that sports are completely fixed has destroyed a very important part of my life and another reason why money has destroyed society and another reason why this society is trash. People are so blinded by chasing another goose egg that they lose sight of what is truly important. So sad and pathetic.

Again, I have no money riding on any of these games or props. These are my careful observations throughout the years observing many teams and what exactly happens.




I can guarantee you there is not a large anount of money on the heavy underdog moneylines in the NBA. the books lose way more if the favorite wins and covers.

So last night for example , the books would’ve been better off if the bulls won the game outright , and the worst situation for them was Milwaukee winning and covering (which is what happened). If the refs really wanted to fix the game in the way that helps out the books the most , they’d cause the favorite to win the game but not cover.
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November 17th, 2018 at 12:25:44 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I can guarantee you there is not a large anount of money on the heavy underdog moneylines in the NBA. the books lose way more if the favorite wins and covers.

So last night for example , the books would’ve been better off if the bulls won the game outright , and the worst situation for them was Milwaukee winning and covering (which is what happened). If the refs really wanted to fix the game in the way that helps out the books the most , they’d cause the favorite to win the game but not cover.



This is correct. Books have their worst weeks when favs cover a disproportionate number of games.
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November 17th, 2018 at 12:47:29 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I can guarantee you there is not a large anount of money on the heavy underdog moneylines in the NBA. the books lose way more if the favorite wins and covers.

So last night for example , the books would’ve been better off if the bulls won the game outright , and the worst situation for them was Milwaukee winning and covering (which is what happened). If the refs really wanted to fix the game in the way that helps out the books the most , they’d cause the favorite to win the game but not cover.



The point is theres a fix in regardless what the exact reason is. Its either keeping the spread as close as possible for atV ratings, its to protect the bookies, its to protect the huge bettors betting underground behind the scenes, it could be the refs betting on the games themselves or for a friend. It could be a player who is throwing the game for a friend to get rich(how would they ever find out?).

The point is these games are not random and whatever is the reason who the hell knows. After everything Ive seen over the years, something is definitely not right. If i had to narrow it down to one belief, it's for TV ratings especially when the NBA now endorses sports betting so these refs are told to keep the spread as close as possible for maximum viewership.
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November 17th, 2018 at 1:24:46 PM permalink
This world is going to sh*t. The NBA is fixed, BJ and other card games in Vegas are fixed, Wrestling is fixed (are you sure Bill?) and my Cats are fixed.

Thankfully we have ZK to show us the light about all the conspiracies in the world today.

The "retired" at 30 Guy has shown us the light and as his reward he can't even enjoy a Bulls Game. You know the Bulls, the same team EVERY Drone his age grew up liking because of Mike. Talk about following the crowd as a drone.
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November 17th, 2018 at 2:25:45 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

The point is theres a fix in regardless what the exact reason is. Its either keeping the spread as close as possible for atV ratings, its to protect the bookies, its to protect the huge bettors betting underground behind the scenes, it could be the refs betting on the games themselves or for a friend. It could be a player who is throwing the game for a friend to get rich(how would they ever find out?).

The point is these games are not random and whatever is the reason who the hell knows. After everything Ive seen over the years, something is definitely not right. If i had to narrow it down to one belief, it's for TV ratings especially when the NBA now endorses sports betting so these refs are told to keep the spread as close as possible for maximum viewership.



How much money do you think it takes for a ref to risk his livelihood , his name , and prison time .. in order for him to deliberately fix a game one way or the other ?

That ref knows he’s at the mercy of any other individual involved getting caught, or coming forward voluntarily , so how much do these refs need to be bribed to risk all that.

And so on top of that, those placing the bets need to bet large enough amounts so that their winnings cover what they pay the refs plus have enough left over to make it worthwhile in their own end.

And you think this is happening all across the nba and all sports , so that would require 100s of people being in on it and you don’t think anything leaks ?
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November 17th, 2018 at 3:20:51 PM permalink
Signs you might have a problem.

You have these elaborate scenarios in your head that make you unhappy.

When confronted with evidence that your scenarios don't make sense, you just keep making them more elaborate. E.g the refs couldn't do this alone. So therefore the players must be in on it too.

Your self esteem is strangly tied up in these scenarios being true and it gets to the point where you think the whole world is crazy, or stupid and you are the only one who can percieved the hidden forces orchestrating everything. Because that's easier to believe than 'oh crap. It's me."
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November 17th, 2018 at 3:40:10 PM permalink
I'd take my chances with Steve Stevens.
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November 18th, 2018 at 1:57:49 AM permalink
I think college basketball is rigged, or at least the lines are totally screwy

Pro basketball is fine however, except for that Bulls/Grizzlies game where I laid 8 on the 1st half and got rekt
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November 18th, 2018 at 7:07:49 AM permalink
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-raptors-20181117-story.html

I wonder who made LaVine sick to ruin the King's night of just watching his favorite team?

This conspiracy continues to grow with more people involved. Even the Tribune is in on it by "confirming" LaVine was coughing in the Locker Room.

All because some sweet young boy who grew up a Droned Out Jordan fan, like every other little tot of his time just wants to enjoy his team. I can picture the Young King in his 23 Jersey playing his Sega, just wanting to be "Like Mike".

And now, skip forward many years, and all because a small wager was placed in a sports book in Vegas by a "retired" 30 YO, a vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been put into motion to ruin this man's enjoyment.

Oh the horror. This world sure is screwed up, most of it just to F the King of Vegas.

Their ought to be a law. Or is it just poetic justice of the best kind?
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