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ZenKinG
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November 16th, 2018 at 9:28:11 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I feel like at no point in that response did you respond to my idea. If you KNOW the "favorite" is RIGGED to win against the big underdog, then why not simply bet all of your money on it???



Because you completely missed the WHOLE POINT of what I'm getting at. Whether it's profitable in the long run or not is irrelevant. The point is sports are not RANDOM like they're supposed to be. I dont give a f**k about making millions or a billion, I just want to enjoy my life, something as little as watching my favorite sports team that I grew up thinking was an honorable sport only to find out it's also ruled by corruption. Just go ahead, next time you see a big underdog thats up big during the game, just watch what happens the rest of the game compared to to the beginning of the game. Just watch. Like night and day, the same contact driving in the paint from the underdog team that resulted in a foul earlier in the game, is now no where to be seen, meanwhile the favorite team that is losing barely gets touched driving into the paint and it's a whistle and before you know it the favorite is back to winning and close to the spread by the 3rd or 4th quarter, whole thing is a complete circus. If they were actual fouls, I could understand, when you notice it's all b.s and then you realize it's because one team is a big underdog and the spread is +15 points, it starts to make you sick to your stomach about what's really going on. This happens TIME AFTER TIME. Just go ahead and watch it yourself.

This whole society is a piece of trash. Money has destroyed all of you. All of you will realize I'm right when you're 90 years old on your death bad looking at that pile of paper next to you that you worked so hard to build up and realizing your whole life was just chasing that bullshit and didnt or couldnt even enjoy your life due to corruption from yourself and corruption all around you. I'm actually thinking of getting front row seats at an nba game, and just heckling the refs all game and letting them know that I know what they're doing I will yell my lungs out every single time the refs go up the court and letting the players know as well. If I was an athlete, all of these refs would be getting called out in the media for corruption until they admit what they're doing. All you hear are crickets when the most obvious foul bias is given each and every game. If these players and coaches are not in on the rig, then they're just another money hungry societal immoral drone blinded by the paper in their wallet and scared to get fined and give some of it away. Whole society makes me sick.
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michael99000
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November 16th, 2018 at 9:58:02 PM permalink
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Enough is enough. IVE HAD IT. For anyone that is not braindead who watches NBA games, knows the NBA is corrupt and the games are completely rigged to keep a big underdog from ever winning a game as much as possible. The only way a big underdog ever wins is if they shoot lights out where the refs cant manipulate the game. Go ahead and watch the games yourself, its like clockwork. I have NO horse in this race. I have NO money in these bets, this is completely an objective observation, so emotion is NOT clouding my mind.

Watch the games yourself. Find a double digit underdog such as the bulls were tonight against the bucks. Bulls were up by 20 at halftime. TWENTY. And they were 14.5 point dogs. So what do i tell myself will happen before the second half even begins? The bulls will get NO CALLS. No FREE THROWS, every 50/50 call will be in favor of the bucks, every time the bucks drive to the hoop there will be whistles, every time the bulls drive, NOTHING. The Bucks will also shoot free throws all 2nd half. And guess what happened? Exactly that. What a coincidence. The bulls didnt get ONE FREE THROW since they were up 23 points up until they were down 8 LOL. Oh thank you so much refs for the free throws now that the spread is in check. Who the hell do they think they're fooling? Maybe they can fool 99.9% of this brainwashed droned out public that have a brain the size of a peanut. This happens every single time a big underdog is blowing a team out. Sports are completely rigged out of their minds. Anyone who disagrees me is doing a huge disservice to society.

The FBI needs to investigate every single sports league, especially the NBA and put every single one of these corrupt immoral drones in federal prison for life and tortured to death. Then maybe the next generation of refs will not sell their souls for a freaking dollar. Im also convinced the players are in on it as well so Ive had enough. The one thing I enjoyed my whole life is officially over. Never watching a game again until the FBI throws every single one of these refs and commissioner in prison. Ive watched sports my whole life thinking it was a random event and now after careful observation, it is confirmed for me. I've had enough with all of the red flags I've seen over the past 3 years. I feel so bad for all of you who think this is a fair random event. Nothing but a bunch of corrupt immoral piece of garbage scum and im trying my hardest right now NOT to go on a cursing profanity spree.

If i was a professional player i swear on my life i would put these refs in the hospital and call every single one of them out in every single press conference. My salary would go to fines every single week buf I could care less as long as the word gets out. Another reason these players are in on it. How can none of them ever call any of these refs out for rigging these games? You only ever hear 'oh these refs with the bad calls, yada yada yada', but none of these players ever come straight out and accuse this league of being corrupt when the most obvious calls are missed time and time again especially when the 'timing' of these calls are happening when an underdog is blowing a team out etc and god forbid they win the big moneyline. Bunch of corruption.

Do you guys seriously need another Tim Donaghy scandal to happen before you realize the whole league is rigged? Why is everyone so reactive in this pathetic society rather than proactive? Oh I know why, because if you think outside the box for one second and say something not 'socially acceptable', you're immediately labeled a 'cook' or a 'conspiracy theorist'. God bless me and my ability to notice corruption, otherwise this world is just a bunch of pathetic brainwashed droned out idiots. Every single one of you that thinks professional sports is fair need to be drug tested. You guys are a complete disgrace to society and why these leagues get away with what theyve been doing for decades.




I watched that second half too. And the Bulls didnít lose because of the refs or any fix. They lost because theyíre horrible. Bledsoe took the game over in the third quarter , Milwaukee hit a ton of threes, and the bulls werenít aggressive at all and thatís why there was a free throw disparity.

More importantly , my over 225.5 cashed 💰

By the way, as for your other claim that double digit underdogs donít win outright in the NBA...

I did some extensive research (had to go back an entire two days) and found that this past Wednesday night Memphis won at Milwaukee as a 10 point dog, and Detroit won at Toronto as a 10 point dog
ZenKinG
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November 16th, 2018 at 10:05:13 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I watched that second half too. And the Bulls didnít lose because of the refs or any fix. They lost because theyíre horrible. Bledsoe took the game over in the third quarter , Milwaukee hit a ton of threes, and the bulls werenít aggressive at all and thatís why there was a free throw disparity.

More importantly , my over 225.5 cashed 💰

By the way, as for your other claim that double digit underdogs donít win outright in the NBA...

I did some extensive research (had to go back an entire two days) and found that this past Wednesday night Memphis won at Milwaukee as a 10 point dog, and Detroit won at Toronto as a 10 point dog



Once again you and everyone else missed my entire point. My problem is how much the refs try to help the favorite come back when theyre huge favorites and down big. Thats not random like a sports event should be. Also, Im aware bulls settled for a lot of jump shots but look at Milwaukee getting these ridiculous and 1 calls, and whistles every time they get in the paint. Also why did chicago players just stop trying to play defense in the 2nd half and watching Milwaukee players drive from the 3 pt line all the way to the hoop for an uncontested layup and dunk? Are these players seriously in on the fix?

Oh great, you found a 10 point dog that won, actually they were 9.5 but lets not digress. Go watch those games and see the inconsistency of the calls going one way compared to the beginning of the game. I dont even have to go watch them because I already know what happened, Milwaukee and Toronto most likely got all the calls in the 2nd half and Memphis and Detroit had to outshoot the lack of calls they were getting because they were a big underdog. It happens every time. You literally never see a big underdog get 50/50 foul calls in the 2nd half if theyre winning big, let alone any foul calls unless theyre brutally hacked. These games are far from random. The same foul calls they got in the 1st and 2nd quarter are no where to be seen late in the game if theyre winning big.
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November 17th, 2018 at 7:03:03 AM permalink
I really think losing that Nintendo tournament or whatever it was made you a better person. Maybe you are right, this society is a mess and should still honor those who lose like Hillary or the Dodgers. We put far too much emphasis on winning and not enough on respecting the losers among us who tried so hard but just came up short.

Those like you who admit they did their best and it just wasnít enough. Those like you who never blame others, but instead respect and congratulate those who were just a little better than them.

Hereís to you King, and Thank You for losing with dignity! Youíre an inspiration to many of us!
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November 17th, 2018 at 8:42:28 AM permalink
Not sure if facts matter, but the Bulls were up by 18 at halftime. Not 20.
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November 17th, 2018 at 8:45:24 AM permalink
Weeks of following the Indy pro wrestling circuit in Vegas has totally convinced me so called referees are definitely in on it.
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November 17th, 2018 at 9:09:42 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Weeks of following the Indy pro wrestling circuit in Vegas has totally convinced me so called referees are definitely in on it.



In two weeks there will be some real wrestling in Las Vegas. The Cliff Keen Collegiate Invitational is Nov. 30--Dec 1st at the convention center.
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November 17th, 2018 at 9:29:07 AM permalink
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In two weeks there will be some real wrestling in Las Vegas. The Cliff Keen Collegiate Invitational is Nov. 3--Dec 1st at the convention center.



December 3rd. Neonopolis
Beers and Brawls 6, The Cliff Clavin Invitational.
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November 17th, 2018 at 10:12:37 AM permalink
ZK I only read the first part of your long winded post and the same for Romes and both of you replys back an fourth, so excuse me if i missed something.

You may or may not be right.


But let me say this. When it comes to sports and yourself the ONLY thing that is relevant IS MAKING MONEY PERIOD.

You can rant all you want but that isn't going to change anything. Do you want to be the guy that benefits from his own knowledge or the guy that does nothing but say I told you so?
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ZenKinG
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November 17th, 2018 at 11:16:48 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

ZK I only read the first part of your long winded post and the same for Romes and both of you replys back an fourth, so excuse me if i missed something.

You may or may not be right.


But let me say this. When it comes to sports and yourself the ONLY thing that is relevant IS MAKING MONEY PERIOD.

You can rant all you want but that isn't going to change anything. Do you want to be the guy that benefits from his own knowledge or the guy that does nothing but say I told you so?



Yeah you missed the part that its not just about making money for me. I want to enjoy sports, sit back and root for my favorite team after a long day, etc and know that its a fair game, but that is a distant memory to me now. Whether you can make a long term profit by just betting these favorites or taking advantage of the fix is irrelevant to me because my whole point of these posts were to say how the games are being rigged with obvipus bias towards one that and how it has destroyed sports for me as a whole because it is not a random event and the equivalent of watching WWE.

After everything Ive noticed over the past 3-5 years, it's now officially clear to me these games are not random as they should be. The refs in all pro sports, especially the NBA have extreme bias towards one side depending on the current score of the game in relation to the spread of the game. It's much more apparent when a huge underdog is winning as they wont let that team win the big moneyline bet as that would destroy the sportsbooks. The refs manage the game as best they can depending on the spread of the game if you watch these games carefully. The only time the spread gets out of reach is when its out of the ref's hands and a team shoots lights out.

For example, If a huge underdog is blowing out the favorite as what happened yesterday, then the refs extremely favor the favorite team to catch up and never give any free throws to the big underdog team thats winning. I guess thats a major +EV opportunity if there are any 'live bet lines' at halftime that you can get a hold of. The bulls last night after being up 20 at halftime, had 4 fouls called on them right at the START of the 3rd quarter and Milwaukee was shooting free throws the rest of the quarter. What a coincidence.

Also vice versa; if a huge favorite is winning, the refs then favor the underdog to catch up. The worst scenario is when like I said a huge underdog is actually WINNING the game, the refs do everything in their power to let the favorite catch up and WIN the game because of the big moneyline payout for the underdog that would destroy the bookies.

The whole thing is one completely programmed event, which is quite sad to me because life to me is much more important than making money. Knowing that sports are completely fixed has destroyed a very important part of my life and another reason why money has destroyed society and another reason why this society is trash. People are so blinded by chasing another goose egg that they lose sight of what is truly important. So sad and pathetic.

Again, I have no money riding on any of these games or props. These are my careful observations throughout the years observing many teams and what exactly happens.
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