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Mission146
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January 4th, 2017 at 12:06:29 AM permalink
I'd also like to apologize for no PM's being sent and the Playoff thread not yet being posted. Both of those things will happen tomorrow. I ran into an unexpected situation that required several hours of my time during which I was supposed to be doing that and am just getting ready for bed now.
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beachbumbabs
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January 4th, 2017 at 5:02:24 AM permalink
I also would like to acknowledge miplet ' s quick settlement of our bet. Sweetness...thanks!
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January 4th, 2017 at 8:30:20 AM permalink
I apologize for my ignorance, but with the Fiddle in the Middle and Goat prizes, who owes who how much money?

Whatever is owed to me, I would like to appoint BBB to do the collecting, to satisfy a prior debt I have to her.
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January 4th, 2017 at 8:44:35 AM permalink
My contribution was given to mission prior to the end of the contest .
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Mission146
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January 4th, 2017 at 9:43:18 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I apologize for my ignorance, but with the Fiddle in the Middle and Goat prizes, who owes who how much money?

Whatever is owed to me, I would like to appoint BBB to do the collecting, to satisfy a prior debt I have to her.



WizardofNothing is correct that he fully contributed all of his donation prior to the end of the contest, that was settled last week.

I will PM BBB instead of you regarding payment, in that event.
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Mission146
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January 4th, 2017 at 10:49:44 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Payment PM's have now been sent. Also, I have posted the thread for the Playoff Picks Game:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/27920-2016-wov-playoff-picks-game/#post570764

I will post the first set of Lines for that game later on tonight, anyone who played this game or participated in this thread will receive a reminder PM and a link to the Playoff Picks thread later tonight.
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Mission146
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January 5th, 2017 at 2:59:04 PM permalink
Here is the post that was mentioned a few days ago containing the aggregated records of anyone with at least 200 picks to that point:

Quote: MidwestAP

I've noticed some interest in seeing aggregated results of Mission's picks games over the years, so I took a few minutes to pull the data together. I believe this is the fifth season, so the data below is compiled from the first four, starting with 2012. If I'm wrong, please let me know and I can go back further.

- There are 7 players who have participated in all four seasons, Wizard, JohnZimbo, Steeldco, AyeCarumba, Miplet, Mission, and Ten2Win.

- In 2012, there wasn't an option to forfeit (go 0-5) once you exceeded your skip week, you were just out.

- The list of champions are:

2012 Wizard (71.26%)
2013 BoyMimbo (57.95%)
2014 Wizard (70.00%)
2015 Ed Collins (59.04%)

- I've listed the aggregated results for all participants with at least 200 picks over those four seasons. I have the complete record if anyone is interested in knowing other results.

- The results include confidence picks as double, and exclude the forfeited 0-5 weeks (except 2014, as I couldn't identify those who took forfeits)

- The aggregated record for all players (53 unique participants over four seasons) is 4638-4622 (50.09%)


Player Win Loss Pct
Wizard 220 139 61.28%
MidwestAP 129 108 54.43%
Vendman1 106 94 53.00%
Mission146 174 156 52.73%
JW17 137 123 52.69%
Paradigm 132 121 52.17%
Miplet 184 169 52.12%
beachbumbabs 123 115 51.68%
JohnZimbo 192 183 51.20%
RDWPotus 107 103 50.95%
Terapined 126 122 50.81%
EdCollins 131 130 50.19%
AyeCarumba 185 185 50.00%
Steeldco 188 190 49.74%
StrictlyAP 133 135 49.63%
Aluiso 133 136 49.44%
JML24 129 134 49.05%
10DollarBri 126 135 48.28%
Ten2Win 172 198 46.49%
SOOPOO 137 159 46.28%

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SOOPOO
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January 5th, 2017 at 5:13:43 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Here is the post that was mentioned a few days ago containing the aggregated records of anyone with at least 200 picks to that point:

Quote: MidwestAP

I've noticed some interest in seeing aggregated results of Mission's picks games over the years, so I took a few minutes to pull the data together. I believe this is the fifth season, so the data below is compiled from the first four, starting with 2012. If I'm wrong, please let me know and I can go back further.

- There are 7 players who have participated in all four seasons, Wizard, JohnZimbo, Steeldco, AyeCarumba, Miplet, Mission, and Ten2Win.

- In 2012, there wasn't an option to forfeit (go 0-5) once you exceeded your skip week, you were just out.

- The list of champions are:

2012 Wizard (71.26%)
2013 BoyMimbo (57.95%)
2014 Wizard (70.00%)
2015 Ed Collins (59.04%)

- I've listed the aggregated results for all participants with at least 200 picks over those four seasons. I have the complete record if anyone is interested in knowing other results.

- The results include confidence picks as double, and exclude the forfeited 0-5 weeks (except 2014, as I couldn't identify those who took forfeits)

- The aggregated record for all players (53 unique participants over four seasons) is 4638-4622 (50.09%)


Player Win Loss Pct
Wizard 220 139 61.28%
MidwestAP 129 108 54.43%
Vendman1 106 94 53.00%
Mission146 174 156 52.73%
JW17 137 123 52.69%
Paradigm 132 121 52.17%
Miplet 184 169 52.12%
beachbumbabs 123 115 51.68%
JohnZimbo 192 183 51.20%
RDWPotus 107 103 50.95%
Terapined 126 122 50.81%
EdCollins 131 130 50.19%
AyeCarumba 185 185 50.00%
Steeldco 188 190 49.74%
StrictlyAP 133 135 49.63%
Aluiso 133 136 49.44%
JML24 129 134 49.05%
10DollarBri 126 135 48.28%
Ten2Win 172 198 46.49%
SOOPOO 137 159 46.28%



There must be a problem with the list.... you omitted all the players below me................
Mission146
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January 5th, 2017 at 5:40:38 PM permalink
That list was current as of last year and only contains players with 200 or more picks.
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January 7th, 2017 at 10:04:39 AM permalink
I want to acknowledge Wizardofnothing's payment for our side bet.
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January 7th, 2017 at 5:50:09 PM permalink
All side action with me has been settled.
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January 7th, 2017 at 8:19:34 PM permalink
Quote: miplet

All side action with me has been settled.



And very quickly, too. Thanks, miplet!
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March 14th, 2017 at 4:45:13 AM permalink
I have a suggestion for next year's contest. It may seem a little ridiculous for me to make a suggestion since I didn't participate but I'll go ahead and make one anyway. The Wizard has acknowledged that he obtained an advantage (compared to ordinary bettors, not contest bettors) by being able to bet on stale lines that were no longer available at the time of the bet. It is very likely that many other players used this same advantage. Because of this, the results did not truly reflect handicapping ability. My suggestion is to eliminate this advantage so that the results WOULD truly reflect ability. To do this a bettor could be allowed to make a bet on any game at any time up until game time on a line posted at one particular book that has its line history tracked by covers.com such as betonline.ag. Then, the Administrator would look at the line history and verify that be spread quoted by the bettor matches up with the time indicated by the line history. If it does not match up then the bet is either disallowed or posted at the correct line shown by the line history. As an additional safeguard the Administrator would take a screenshot of the book's lines at various times to insure that the bettor's bet is quoted at the correct line. The upside is that the contest would then seem to me to be truly reflective of handicapping abilities. The downside is that the Administrator would have to do more work. But maybe not all that much more work. Here is a cut and paste of some of covers.com tracking of line history on the Giants vs. the Eagles on 12/22/2016:

Note: I just noticed that betonline.ag does not always post their sides and totals at -110. So, a different book would have to be found that does to calculate the winner in % terms as it has been done in the past.


12/18/16 7:18:25 PM 3/-110 (Open) OFF
12/18/16 8:18:25 PM 3/-110 42-110 (Open)
12/18/16 8:28:25 PM 3/-115 42-110
12/18/16 9:08:25 PM 3/-120 42-110
12/19/16 1:38:26 AM 3/-118 42-110
12/19/16 1:48:26 AM 3/-117 42-110
12/19/16 2:18:26 AM 3/-112 42-110
12/19/16 12:58:27 PM 3/-115 42-110
12/19/16 1:38:28 PM 2.5/-110 41.5-110
12/19/16 5:48:27 PM 2.5/-105 41.5-110
12/20/16 2:18:28 PM 2.5/100 41.5-110
12/21/16 1:18:26 AM 2.5/100 41.5-112
12/21/16 1:38:27 AM 2.5/101 41.5-112
12/21/16 3:08:26 AM 2.5/101 41-118
12/21/16 10:38:28 AM 2.5/101 41-110
12/21/16 3:28:28 PM 2.5/101 41.5-110
Last edited by: lilredrooster on Mar 14, 2017
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wudged
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March 14th, 2017 at 7:24:00 AM permalink
Nice idea, but that's 16 different time slots, times 25 players, times 5 picks per player - so it's not so easy to manually check.

I'm sure a script could be written to do it, though.
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