FatGeezus
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November 12th, 2015 at 8:39:18 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Because the outcome is unknown.



Whether you call it a skill or gambling if the outcome was known before you wagered it wouldn't be called a skill or gambling. It would be called winning.
Ibeatyouraces
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November 12th, 2015 at 8:44:15 AM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

Whether you call it a skill or gambling if the outcome was known before you wagered it wouldn't be called a skill or gambling. It would be called winning.


Gambling is defined as betting or wagering money or anything of value on an "unknown" event. Professional bowlers on the PBA are gamblers also they pay entry fees and win prizes just as poker players. It's all gambling.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
FatGeezus
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November 12th, 2015 at 8:50:04 AM permalink
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It's simple really. A human can tell you he/she is hurt or not feeling well. An animal can't. In addition, you feed an animal things which slow him/her down such as popcorn(dogs), but the human chooses to ingest it or not. That goes for PED's as well, combined with when he/she can go to the bathroom and get some relief. All of it is communication and being able to read another human is easier and a "skill" whereas reading a horse or dog is next to impossible. Think about poker. Many call it skill but is it really?



Can a human tell you when he is going to be hurt in a game. Can he tell you when he is going to pull a hamstring. Can he tell you when he will sprain his ankle. Can he tell you when he will break a wrist.

NO!!

You can use all of your skill to pick an athlete or a horse but you are taking a chance on the results. That is why it is a gamble.

People are still waiting for Big Brown (a sure thing) to cross the finish line.
jml24
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:47:49 AM permalink
Almost all games have an element of skill and an element of chance. Most games that are historically popular for gambling have elements of both. The skilled players have to win the long run or they won't provide the games. The suckers have to win some of the time or they won't keep coming back. I don't play daily fantasy sports but I assume the profit potential for the sites is similar to poker in that they take some kind of fee and then it is you vs. the other players. So, it is in the interest of the sites to maintain a skill / chance balance. Many would argue that the reason Texas Hold'em has become the dominant form of poker is because it has an optimal balance between skill and chance.

I agree that betting online should be legal and it doesn't really matter how much is skill or chance. The only reason online betting is illegal is so the legal casinos can protect their profts. This is why Sheldon Adelson is pouring millions into getting a stronger federal ban against online gambling that would shut down the legal state sites. This is why gambling online is a felony in WA (a tribe with a major casino donated big to the legislator that sponsored the bill.) It's no secret betting on the NFL is one of the most popular forms of gambling in the country, so why keep it mostly underground?

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