Mission146
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January 19th, 2014 at 7:28:13 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo


It looks like there is a good chance that rule 6 will apply next week:

6.) In the event of a possible tie in record, for the Super Bowl, there will be additional Prop stats which must be selected, though I've not decided on them yet. Mission, since you are in the running, perhaps you shouldn't be picking the prop match.

I would probably go with a guess the score in case of the tiebreaker with the one closest to the actual score (difference in points by each team) wins.

Good luck to those who are still in it!



It doesn't apply to me, I stated that I would have to win outright and could not tie in record and do the questions since I would be the one deciding what the questions are. The result of that is, I am the only person with 12 points who is eliminated, but I am eliminated, because I cannot win outright.

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10.) If a tie is mathematically possible going into the Super Bowl, then each player who could tie will be asked to answer eleven questions about the game to be played, and in the event of a tie, the most answers correct shall be declared the winner. I am the only exception to this Rule, in order to win, I must win outright.

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January 19th, 2014 at 7:28:27 PM permalink
I believe Beardgoat had OVER in the Seahawks game and therefore is still up 1.
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January 19th, 2014 at 7:29:44 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

I believe Beardgoat had OVER in the Seahawks game and therefore is still up 1.



Correct, so everyone with 12 points is eliminated.
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January 19th, 2014 at 7:32:19 PM permalink
Here's the deal:

1.) Anyone with thirteen Points must pick both games differently than Beardgoat, at least one game differently than JML24 and no game picked against Beardgoat can have Beardgoat win or be a No-Decision.

2.) JML24 must have one pick different from Beardgoat, which he actually failed to do this week.

3.) If anyone else wishes to make picks just to see how many points with which they would have finished, that is fine, but I'm only sending the eleven questions to those with a chance to win.
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January 19th, 2014 at 7:49:29 PM permalink
Well, congrats to those still in it! I'm cheering on Beardgoat, just to see an impossibly high pick rate continue.
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January 19th, 2014 at 8:01:03 PM permalink
Thanks babs. Pretty crazy streak I have going.
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January 19th, 2014 at 8:05:00 PM permalink
I edited my post about 5 minutes after it was posted for BeardGoat.
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January 22nd, 2014 at 3:34:09 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146



3.) If anyone else wishes to make picks just to see how many points with which they would have finished, that is fine, but I'm only sending the eleven questions to those with a chance to win.


Here are my predictions, even though the lines have not been posted:
Broncos Over
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January 25th, 2014 at 2:47:48 PM permalink
When do you plan on sending out tie breaker questions?
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January 25th, 2014 at 8:11:47 PM permalink
I'm going to post the Lines on Tuesday, at the same time, I'm going to send the reminders which will include the questions.
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January 29th, 2014 at 7:07:59 PM permalink
Greetings:

The Super Bowl Lines are as follows:

DEN -2.5 v. SEA +2.5 O/U 47

In addition, please PM answers to the following eleven questions.

1.) Who won the game and what is the exact margin of victory?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question two.

2.) How many points did the winning team score?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question three.

3.) How many points did the losing team score?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question four.

4.) How many COMBINED points were scored by Defense and Special Teams?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question five.

5.) How many total points were scored by the offenses?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question six.

6.) In a multiple of ten, how many passing yards were achieved by Peyton Manning?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question seven.

7.) In a multiple of ten, how many passing yards were achieved by Russell Wilson?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question eight.

8.) How many Interceptions were thrown in this game?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question nine.

9.) How many Punts were there in this game?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question ten.

10.) How many first downs were there in this game?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question eleven.

11.) How many total rushing or passing plays in this game were for a loss of yards?
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January 29th, 2014 at 7:40:46 PM permalink
12.) If necessary. What size shoes does my Uncle Ralph wear ?
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January 29th, 2014 at 8:18:21 PM permalink
Could you please clarify how the tie breaker works?
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January 29th, 2014 at 8:23:26 PM permalink
Quote: Beardgoat

Could you please clarify how the tie breaker works?



I changed it a bit because it was originally going to be Props just based on total number of correct answers, while the probability of a tie was likely somewhat remote to begin with, I believe this adjustment makes it all but impossible.

Basically, if both people get question one, "Correct," or miss by the same amount, who have tied in points, then we move to question two...etc. If, at any point, someone gets a question right (or is closer) and the other person(people) is not, then the first person shall win.

I believe this would make any chance of a tie extremely remote.
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January 29th, 2014 at 8:26:14 PM permalink
Thanks
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January 29th, 2014 at 8:26:18 PM permalink
I will sell the size of my Uncle Ralph's shoes for $10. Hey, you never know with tie breakers.
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January 30th, 2014 at 7:45:27 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

1.) Who won the game and what is the exact margin of victory?

If there is a tie, and two answers are the same (or same amount off) move to question two.


This is two questions. Is each half of the question equal? If someone guesses the wrong team that won, but nails the margin of victory, is that equal to guessing the right team that won but not having the correct margin of victory?
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January 30th, 2014 at 7:50:08 AM permalink
Quote: Scot

This is two questions. Is each half of the question equal? If someone guesses the wrong team that won, but nails the margin of victory, is that equal to guessing the right team that won but not having the correct margin of victory?



It gets treated as one question, but the first part is most important. You must get the team right to have answered the question correctly, and then the margin of victory is secondary.

For example, if Seattle wins by 10 and you guessed Seattle by 3 and someone else guessed Denver by 10, then the Denver guess is actually off by 20 points and the Seattle guess is off by 7, therefore, Seattle by 3 is more correct.
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January 30th, 2014 at 8:52:15 AM permalink
My answers, though I am not participating, just for fun.

Oh, we should have a pool! $1 per answer. Total liability up to $11, the person who gets the closest on each question wins!


(1) Seattle by 4.
(2) 34
(3) 30
(4) 7
(5) 57
(6) 270
(7) 240
(8) 3
(9) 9
(10) 35
(11) 12
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January 30th, 2014 at 8:58:15 AM permalink
^^^^^^^
With that many punts, can't see the scores you project. Just sayin' ;-)
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February 2nd, 2014 at 9:24:19 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Here's the deal:

1.) Anyone with thirteen Points must pick both games differently than Beardgoat, at least one game differently than JML24 and no game picked against Beardgoat can have Beardgoat win or be a No-Decision.

2.) JML24 must have one pick different from Beardgoat,



Does anyone now have a chance to beat Beardgoat?
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February 2nd, 2014 at 11:55:14 AM permalink
I'm anxiously awaiting also
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February 2nd, 2014 at 2:27:01 PM permalink
Greetings!

The first thing to note is that KeyserSoze did not get his Picks in or open his reminder PM and is eliminated.

The Super Bowl Picks are as follows:

JML24:

SEA +2.5 UNDER 47

EdgeLooker:

DEN -2.5
UNDER 47

Beardgoat:

Broncos -2.5, Under

Boz:

DEN -2.5 U 47

Eliminations

Everyone is eliminated except for Beardgoat and JML24, if the Seahawks cover, then we shall go to the questions.
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February 2nd, 2014 at 3:05:29 PM permalink
Good luck jml. Id imagine if seattle covers then you will win the tiebrraker.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 2:53:15 PM permalink
Quote: Beardgoat

Good luck jml. Id imagine if seattle covers then you will win the tiebrraker.



Well?? Did Jml win the tiebreaker?
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February 3rd, 2014 at 3:04:51 PM permalink
Excuse me, yes, as Beardgoat predicted JML24 also took Seattle in the tiebreaker whereas he took Denver making JML24 the automatic winner. With his one point lead, I'm actually a little surprised Beardgoat didn't hedge that a bit on the questions, to be quite honest.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 8:42:08 PM permalink
Here's a photo of me celebrating my win. OK that was actually on Friday, but I am really in the photo. I am at the very lower left corner of the "flag."

I am happy for the win but can't claim any special football knowledge or picking skill. I'm pretty sure it was down to:

1) Luck
2) If not sure, pick the underdog.
3) If not sure, pick the under.
4) Luck
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February 3rd, 2014 at 8:52:08 PM permalink
Well hindsight is 20/20. It's possible that jml could have taken Denver and the over. If he did that we still have a tiebreaker. And if Denver had won then I would look stupid choosing the tiebreaker for Seattle to win the game and then i lose the tiebreaker. If I had a guarantee id pick the over under right then I would have picked the tiebreaker differently
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