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If you want to prevent people from talking on the Internet, especially on forums dedicated to this, you are either a complete loser or an idiot.

Laugh, laugh, what else can you do.
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Warning: that is painfully close to a personal insult.

If another mod overrides me, I won't object.

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The average gambler sits at a slot for some period of time. IMO it actually would look more suspicious if you have 100 cards and switched seats 100 times.

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From what I've seen, the average gambler also pulls out their loyalty card from time to time, with hopes of tricking the machine into paying a jackpot. Some even cash out, to "trick" their favorite machine into resetting out of "beast mode".

I'm sure other superstitious traditions can be incorporated.

You did start each new sessionette by putting a pink $5 note in the acceptor face down, right?

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In fact many gamblers pull their cards to update their points onscreen. Some casinos you can see the acrual of points as you go but quite a few you need to pull the card and reinsert.

Often casinos offer point earning specials. Like earn 100 points and qualify for the days free gift. People are constantly checking to see if they have qualified yet

I think there is only one casino in my rotation that hasn't updated tracking systems to something that actively displays points accrued this session, so I tend to forget about the more mundane reasons to pull a card.

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Quote: Dobrij

If you want to prevent people from talking on the Internet, especially on forums dedicated to this, you are either a complete loser or an idiot.

Laugh, laugh, what else can you do.
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I would go with a little bit immature, haven’t yet learned to accept the things they cannot change, rather than flagrantly insulting a broad swath of people of above average intelligence who you know are members in good standing.

Like Axel said, many change their opinion in time, usually only after they suffer some consequence, but if that opinion changes it will be with experience. You cannot change it, people will be defiant to your reasoning and it’s counterproductive, accept it imo. People also have a right to their opinions and it comes across as selfish and gate keeping even though those doing it genuinely believe it’s for the best.
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Even just changing one person's mind about posting one play could be a huge deal. Take a drawing for example. One where you have a chance to have 80% of the tickets on a 25k draw for a low cost. Add one more competing Advantage Player and you just cut your EV in half. Add a few more APs and the casino catches on to the low-cost method of earning tickets and they restrict that method then, and for future promotions.

Quote: SOOPOO

This is settled law here at WoV. Mike has made it clear that outing these plays is approved behavior here. He himself has been doing around a monthly ‘reveal’ of a slot play.

I am an example of someone who ONLY because of this forum now makes a little $$ on some of these slot plays. That is basically why this forum was started!
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Thank you! This sums up my position well.

Outing plays is absolutely allowed here. My goal is to make people better gamblers. Hiding information on how to do that is contrary to my mission.

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Quote: SOOPOO

This is settled law here at WoV. Mike has made it clear that outing these plays is approved behavior here. He himself has been doing around a monthly ‘reveal’ of a slot play.

I am an example of someone who ONLY because of this forum now makes a little $$ on some of these slot plays. That is basically why this forum was started!
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Thank you! This sums up my position well.

Outing plays is absolutely allowed here. My goal is to make people better gamblers. Hiding information on how to do that is contrary to my mission.
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I kind of agree. This forum should be about education. Why do we have an education system? Teaching young people is +EV to the whole community but may be -EV to some individuals. Teaching young people to be engineers or mathematicians could be detrimental to current engineers and mathematicians because it creates more competition for the available positions.

Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead." –Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

"When a secret is revealed, it is the fault of the man who confided it." –Jean de La Bruyère

"A secret remains a secret until you make someone promise never to reveal it." –Fausto Cercignani

"How can we expect another to keep our secret if we cannot keep it ourselves." –François de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims

"To keep your own secrets is wisdom; but to expect others to keep them is folly." –William Scott Downey, Proverbs

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Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead." –Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

"When a secret is revealed, it is the fault of the man who confided it." –Jean de La Bruyère

"A secret remains a secret until you make someone promise never to reveal it." –Fausto Cercignani

"How can we expect another to keep our secret if we cannot keep it ourselves." –François de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims

"To keep your own secrets is wisdom; but to expect others to keep them is folly." –William Scott Downey, Proverbs
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I sent the above to Rx and he promised me he wouldn’t reveal them to anyone…..

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Quote: SOOPOO

This is settled law here at WoV. Mike has made it clear that outing these plays is approved behavior here. He himself has been doing around a monthly ‘reveal’ of a slot play.

I am an example of someone who ONLY because of this forum now makes a little $$ on some of these slot plays. That is basically why this forum was started!
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Thank you! This sums up my position well.

Outing plays is absolutely allowed here. My goal is to make people better gamblers. Hiding information on how to do that is contrary to my mission.
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I kind of agree. This forum should be about education. Why do we have an education system? Teaching young people is +EV to the whole community but may be -EV to some individuals. Teaching young people to be engineers or mathematicians could be detrimental to current engineers and mathematicians because it creates more competition for the available positions.
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I am all for education. This forum is a for-profit educational institution. Anyone in a profession affected by competition has to live with this source of competition. Some trades and professions use the government to suppress this source of competition through licensing. Good luck with that here.

Here, we have a situation where education can help the casino and hurt the gambling public. When a play is not widely known, the AP can wait for it to get deeply +EV before taking it. This helps the casual players since they get more +EV play. Once a play in Vegas gets know, 10 people check the play every hour. The play then generates de minimis benefits to the AP community. The casual players are harmed by having lower EV and annoyed by the constant flow of APs looking over their shoulder or worse.

It is anyone's right to out plays for reasons of ego, spite, or profit. It is my right to view this as harmful to players and helpful to casinos.

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Vicksburg and that whole area of Mississippi have nobody working it. Except Biloxi has the Asians in the Buffalo room.

Sorry I’m trying to help out others.
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anyone ever take into account it could be the reason they arent many aps visible there is the casino is immediately banning anyone checking machines who appears to be an ap?