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rxwine
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September 6th, 2019 at 12:39:52 PM permalink
Come to think of it, Maybe Axelwolf will offer you 60% of the value.
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September 6th, 2019 at 12:41:54 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Come to think of it, Maybe Axelwolf will offer you 60% of the value.



We know DO wont got over 51%
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michael99000
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September 6th, 2019 at 1:00:31 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Come to think of it, Maybe Axelwolf will offer you 60% of the value.



Iíd hold out for 99.5%
DRich
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September 6th, 2019 at 1:00:51 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Drich

That is just totally wrong.

Nice imagination though

Yes, Bob does represent people who used other peoples players cards with the permission of those players.

No, the casino cannot deny the payout becauseit came from freeplay another persons card. When one casino tried that on me do you know what I did? I called gaming which forced them to pay me.

See, the law is on my side on this issue.

The handing of a players card for me to use is no different than if you handed me your credit card with permission to use it. Am I committing credit card fraud if you gave me permission to make a purchase?

Oh wait, you probably figure it is, lol.



I'm not arguing with you. I am just telling you the argument the casinos and District Attorney will use. The freeplay belongs to the casino until it is claimed by the person to whom they issued it. Next time I speak to Bob N. I will see if the D.A. has prosecuted any of these cases in Nevada yet.
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DRich
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September 6th, 2019 at 1:08:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Is this phone number of an individual agent who understands Advantage play enough to realize the difference between illegal activity and "fair play".?

If so, that's great news.



No, that is the general enforcement phone number. Most agents do not understand the intricacies, just like most police officers don't know the subtleties of the law. The Chief of the department is Karl Bennison and he is very smart and fair.
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Romes
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September 6th, 2019 at 1:29:00 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Firstly, nice to see you back!

So, if they mail you a check, I'd assume they could just mail a letter saying you are banned. However, I could see it slipping through the cracks because different people handle it.

This probably means nothing. But I did have to leave a casino quickly due to unwanted attention once and take a ticket with me. I'm pretty sure they were going to 86 me. I came back a couple weeks later. The ticket was not in GREAT shape, as it had been in my wallet for a couple weeks. However, I was surprised the machines wouldn't take it. I wasn't really sure if the ticket was flagged or the machines were picky. But to me, it should have been accepted. It wasn't torn or faded.

I had a buddy cash it at the cage and it went through with no problems. It was for about $250.

Obviously, I told him the situation and paid him and he was cool to deal with it.

Yes, but they could mail the check and letter to a different name, not mine or Bruce, so everyone involved would be okay with this I'm sure =). That's my main goal is to create as many cracks as I can and hope someone slips in to one of them and this goes away quietly. While I'm realistic enough to think this won't happen, again in my eyes it's a free roll to try to let it happen. Give them the rope and see if they do it themselves...

Axel is a hustler ;-). Pretty sure he'd offer me 25% of face value for the ticket cuz of the implied "issues" and then he'd have his super secret network cash it in the background with no problems. He's probably slept with one of the cashiers... at every casino in the united states... just for an occasion like this.

p.s. I'm pretty sad that only 1 of you would go to the dance with me from the poll question =(... I clearly clicked that I would go with myself, so that's 1 of the 2 votes =(.
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Paradigm
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September 6th, 2019 at 2:06:58 PM permalink
Is the check going to be made out to the same name that was on the player card? If so, you send it in certified mail/return receipt requested, you have proof they received the ticket and if you can have that individual call the casino if the check isn't sent, what really is the casino going to do? They have no idea what the individual that owns the player card looks like if they reviewed the tapes to see who was sitting at the machine...I imagine there is some price to pay from gaming if they fail to issue a check in the individual's name who's player card was used based on a mailed in ticket. No way they can get away with that...can they?
darkoz
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September 6th, 2019 at 2:31:54 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I'm not arguing with you. I am just telling you the argument the casinos and District Attorney will use. The freeplay belongs to the casino until it is claimed by the person to whom they issued it. Next time I speak to Bob N. I will see if the D.A. has prosecuted any of these cases in Nevada yet.



That is not the argument any DA would use because that is not the law.

The DA argues the law.

The law is actually quite specific and this falls clearly under access device law.

The casino HAS argued that with me in the past

Once again, I then called the authorities on them. There was no waffling. The casinos were ordered to pay me MY MONEY in each and every case.

And no casino including ones that have caught me with multiple cards multiple times IN DISGUISE NO LESS has every even brought a single charge.

AND THEY STILL.HAD TO PAY ME.

So not sure why you keep insisting there is any wriggle room for a DA to get involved
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Romes
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September 6th, 2019 at 11:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Is the check going to be made out to the same name that was on the player card? If so, you send it in certified mail/return receipt requested, you have proof they received the ticket and if you can have that individual call the casino if the check isn't sent, what really is the casino going to do? They have no idea what the individual that owns the player card looks like if they reviewed the tapes to see who was sitting at the machine...I imagine there is some price to pay from gaming if they fail to issue a check in the individual's name who's player card was used based on a mailed in ticket. No way they can get away with that...can they?

Casinos always do really shady crap and skirt laws and gaming regulations. I'd say about 30%-40% are pretty fair and about 60%-70% try to do shady crap. Of the 60%-70% I'd say the decent majority own up and do what they're legally required when called on their BS, but there's plenty that still don't... which is why we have new lawsuits every year =P.
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Mission146
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September 7th, 2019 at 7:43:51 AM permalink
I suppose at this casino in the future it might be a good idea to cash the ticket out, put it in a different machine without using a playerís card, take one spin and cash it out again.

Maybe even do that a few times. Hell, they might even have locked the ticket BECAUSE they saw you leave without cashing it. Did you try to put the ticket in a different machine after the kiosk refused it? I donít know if that would work or not, can it be communicated to all the individual machines that a ticket is locked?
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