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rxwine
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September 3rd, 2018 at 9:15:35 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

Hard Rock Hollywood Florida does this.



Seminole Hard Rock in Tampa has some machines by a cashier cage which also give the change. But all the other machines on the floor, only print out the tito voucher for whatever cents is left. Of course, you've already walked to a cashier cage so you can get full redemption anyway so there's no real advantage except not dealing with a human I guess.

The only reason to take the trouble to get the change is the principle of the idea, not the added value. They are going to keep the small amounts on the basis that many people won't take the trouble to get their change. It's so petty, it's annoying, so I go out of my way to collect that change anyway.
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September 3rd, 2018 at 9:57:15 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Seminole Hard Rock in Tampa has some machines by a cashier cage which also give the change. But all the other machines on the floor, only print out the tito voucher for whatever cents is left. Of course, you've already walked to a cashier cage so you can get full redemption anyway so there's no real advantage except not dealing with a human I guess.

The only reason to take the trouble to get the change is the principle of the idea, not the added value. They are going to keep the small amounts on the basis that many people won't take the trouble to get their change. It's so petty, it's annoying, so I go out of my way to collect that change anyway.

Players could use the vouchers as tips.
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September 4th, 2018 at 4:38:07 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wait a sec...

I thought that, in most jurisdictions anyway, that abandoned TITO money goes to the state.


As axel said, 75% in NV. I think Missouri still forbids TITOs to expire, but I haven't paid attention lately.

Quote: wrxrob

Another hustle I'm noticing. Some casinos have the old coin counter machines where you dump in the buckets to get cash back. Kicker is, they now keep 10% of the amount, similar to coinstar! It wasn't that many years ago that we had coin droppers in the slots, so naturally this was free at the time. Regardless, I'm not bringing my change bin to the casinos.



MGM Grand does this now. But if you bring quarters and point out you were playing Sigma Derby, they waive the fee. But how many clueless people don't ask this?
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September 4th, 2018 at 8:13:40 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I dont really know or care, I just know it' a complete F'ING scam that steals Millions from players.



It's not stealing if you willingly walk into a place, hand them your money, and let them keep it.
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September 4th, 2018 at 11:36:59 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Are you sure they're not a year and a day, not just a day? I've been able to cash expired tickets, think managers can approve them in a small window between the expiration date and the state possessing it.

Here is a recent souvenir -


I have heard of people driving home and finding a somewhat substantial TITO and calling the casino to make arrangements for redemption a day or two after expiration. But at what amount would you bother with calling in and making those arrangements - taking a special unplanned trip to the casino and back home (let's say 40 miles round trip) - and waiting around the casino for a manager to attend to you. $10? $20? $50? $100? A longer expiration would alleviate many of those considerations.

Which brings us to your last point - state possession. If the state takes possession of expired TITO monies, then why would some casinos take the risk of ticking off some of their customer base with an absurdly short redemption period? Wouldn't they do the exact opposite and make their redemption period as long as possible to take advantage of the float?
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September 4th, 2018 at 12:01:56 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

I've only seen this at WinStar in OK, and there, it is limited to just the coin.


You have the option to donate at all Chickasaw casino locations. The charities listed on their redemption kiosks are -

Military Warriors Support Foundation
Chickasaw Inkana Foundation
Chickasaw Foundation
Regional Food Bank of Oklahoma

As you can see - the Chickasaw have a vested interest.
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September 4th, 2018 at 12:15:51 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

It's not stealing if you willingly walk into a place, hand them your money, and let them keep it.

So if people are willing to hand their money to scammers then that makes it okay to scam?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 4th, 2018 at 12:48:01 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So if people are willing to hand their money to scammers then that makes it okay to scam?



No, because that would still be fraud, and ultimately illegal, depending on what the scam is.

Casinos do not rely on fraudulent premises to operate, unlike scammers.
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September 4th, 2018 at 1:55:24 PM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

Here is a recent souvenir -


I have heard of people driving home and finding a somewhat substantial TITO and calling the casino to make arrangements for redemption a day or two after expiration. But at what amount would you bother with calling in and making those arrangements - taking a special unplanned trip to the casino and back home (let's say 40 miles round trip) - and waiting around the casino for a manager to attend to you. $10? $20? $50? $100? A longer expiration would alleviate many of those considerations.

Which brings us to your last point - state possession. If the state takes possession of expired TITO monies, then why would some casinos take the risk of ticking off some of their customer base with an absurdly short redemption period? Wouldn't they do the exact opposite and make their redemption period as long as possible to take advantage of the float?

I'd just assume either the state or casino is desperate, willing to take a shot just to survive. NJ used to never expire, but they changed things so the companies could declare the money as profit. They were desperate at the time, back after the housing crisis. Borgata owes my sister $12 and I'll never forget it. It was a year expiration at the time, we just haven't been back in 3 years.
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September 4th, 2018 at 2:04:05 PM permalink
Maybe someone at the casino saw Superman III and/or Office Space!

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