billryan
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March 5th, 2017 at 7:47:35 PM permalink
Was killing time and threw $20 in a Buffalo Run machine. Hit a bonus round and won $4.60. A few rounds later hit another bonus round of Eight free games. Kept getting extra games and Gold buffalos. Ended up winning $464 in the bonus round.
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Garyt
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onenickelmiracle
May 11th, 2017 at 3:44:13 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

As far as Buffalo go, some of those with the massive progressive, rumor is they can be as low as 84%. Someone recently on a forum mentioned they saw the setting on one of those. It was completely ignored by a poster from the business who commented, so I'm led to believe it could be so true nobody wants to speak of it. It was either the one with the must hits or a WAP, don't remember.



I was at MGM Detroit playing the new Walking Dead and the machine wouldn't take money. The tech opened it up and went through some things and I saw the board wit the settings . The RTP was 79%! I thought that was illegal? I tried to look up what the minimum pay rate in Michigan was, but couldn't find it.
DiscreteMaths2
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May 11th, 2017 at 4:58:54 PM permalink
Quote: Garyt

I was at MGM Detroit playing the new Walking Dead and the machine wouldn't take money. The tech opened it up and went through some things and I saw the board wit the settings . The RTP was 79%! I thought that was illegal? I tried to look up what the minimum pay rate in Michigan was, but couldn't find it.



http://www.americancasinoguide.com/casinos-by-state/michigan-casinos.html

"The only casinos in Michigan not on indian reservations are located in downtown Detroit. All three are open 24 hours and offer the following games: blackjack, craps, roulette, baccarat, mini-baccarat, Caribbean stud poker, three-card poker, pai gow poker, let it ride, big 6 wheel and casino war. No public information is available about the payback percentages on Detroitís gaming machines."

"Indian casinos in Michigan are not required to release information on their slot machine payback percentages. However, according to officials at the Michigan Gaming Control Board, which is responsible for overseeing the tribal-state compacts, ďthe machines must meet the minimum standards for machines in Nevada or New Jersey.Ē In Nevada the minimum return is 75% and in New Jersey itís 83%. Therefore, Michiganís Indian casinos must return at least 75% in order to comply with the law. "

Seems plausible but my god that is really low. The machines I have seen for the walking dead werent even linked progressives.
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May 11th, 2017 at 7:10:37 PM permalink
All the new fancy "penny" machines seem to be set low. They are not really penny machines since you can bet what's basically equivalent to the old $1 and $2 machines. They have been introducing some slots that give you better odds when you bet more. I think overall they are about 5% worse than they used to be. If you want to play slots I highly suggest finding older slots, both video, and the spinning reel kind.

On a good note, I have seen a new "penny" slot set at 95%, it didn't last long at that location and I don't expect to see it around much. );
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
onenickelmiracle
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May 11th, 2017 at 8:24:05 PM permalink
The spread between a licensed game and anything random is larger than it used to be. I used to play licensed slots like Star Wars or Monty Python and not be bothered. Won't usually touch licensed stuff any more, too tight and volatile.
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MrV
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May 11th, 2017 at 8:48:22 PM permalink
Slots in the tribal casinos I play at in Oregon are no tighter now than they've ever been, so far as I can tell.

I get my share of the occasional hand pays, and am otherwise doing OK with them.
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onenickelmiracle
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May 11th, 2017 at 9:55:21 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Slots in the tribal casinos I play at in Oregon are no tighter now than they've ever been, so far as I can tell.

I get my share of the occasional hand pays, and am otherwise doing OK with them.

Do you hear anyone complaining? My rule of thumb, the number of vocal people being negative increases more and more, the more the returns go down. I remember when Soaring Eagle changed from certified hot slots(manufacturer's best return) covering half the floor to completely eliminating it, the number of dissidents went from almost zero to hundreds on the Facebook page. I remember back in the day playing at Mountaineer, negativity central, but because the people didn't feel things were very fair odds wise. Then going to Seneca Niagara and practically hearing nothing. Things were better there, much fairer. Complaining about bad luck is one thing, but when the volume is loud enough, it's not just bad luck. It's a foolish thing to automatically discount complaints about a casino as just being poor losers, but it's much more complex.

On a related note, some casinos seem to have an unusual number of positive posts on Facebook pages. Coincidentally Seneca. Seneca is no longer a super fair place, and I think they hire marketing companies to post false posts from fake facebook profiles. Your post would be a good example of what you might see, not saying you're lying, but such a post is in the same style. It's always going to be true, there will be less positive posts than negative posts, because people don't see a reason to waste time saying things are acceptable, but will take time to state why something is unacceptable.
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
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May 28th, 2017 at 2:24:56 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

All the new fancy "penny" machines seem to be set low.

Some 1c slots are 96%.
AxelWolf
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May 28th, 2017 at 9:54:55 AM permalink
Quote: mamat

Some 1c slots are 96%.

Yes, there are always exceptions to rules or Advantage play wouldn't be a thing. I'm talking about randomly selecting a penny machine on the floor.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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