DiscreteMaths2
DiscreteMaths2
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April 18th, 2017 at 11:24:18 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Is there a way to find the odds on all the probabilities on all the wheel combinations? Is there a chart somewhere you can find probability of hitting the progressive on a given slot, or the bonus, etc. etc.?



There is a couple people have done just for example purposes to explain how slots work but for the most part no. People who chase progressives probably have some decent estimates in their personal records but they certainly aren't going to share. There are also PAR sheets (relevant design docs for the slots) but those are private as well although they get leaked occasionally.
Assume the worst, believe no one, and make your move only when you are certain that you are unbeatable or have, at worst, exceptionally good odds in your favor.
SiegfriedRoy
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April 18th, 2017 at 4:38:09 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

There is a couple people have done just for example purposes to explain how slots work but for the most part no. People who chase progressives probably have some decent estimates in their personal records but they certainly aren't going to share. There are also PAR sheets (relevant design docs for the slots) but those are private as well although they get leaked occasionally.



Thanks for the heads up. I figured it was closely guarded.
rsactuary
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April 18th, 2017 at 4:44:54 PM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Thanks for the heads up. I figured it was closely guarded.



If you want to try and figure it out, the Wiz has some posts on www.wizardofodds.com where he attempts to figure it out without par sheets.

Deconstructing Megabucks is one, there are other digital reel and mechanical reel examples.
gamerfreak
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March 12th, 2018 at 7:38:40 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

What's your average bet and speed when you play?

$300 as your biggest hit suggests you are playing 1 coin/penny per line. If you are playing "mega themed slot machines" that's usually 50 lines.
I'm assuming when you play you watch the reels spin out and dick around a little. You probably average 10 spins a minute.
After 120 hours of play at -14%, you say you are beating slots without any abnormal hits(Actually $300 as your biggest hit seems low) after 72k spins.

you should be down about 5k.

If after 72k spins someone was running 14% worst than they should be on a slot machine they should call gaming because that would suggest it was gaffed.

Did Alan Mendelson put you up to this?


Here is my 2017 Win/Loss from CET for the small amount of slot play I put in last year. Iíd need to check my notes but this is for about $15k coin in, most of which was on Game of Thrones. My biggest single hit was only in the $300 range.



Thatís about +$2k from Theo by my calculation.

If anyone would like me to rub their screen while they play, Iím more than willing.
rxwine
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March 12th, 2018 at 9:03:48 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

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If anyone would like me to rub their screen while they play, Iím more than willing.



Some people rub, some knock. Then there's the ones the bang the machine so hard if you're sitting on opposite side the whole damn bank shakes.

Rubbers, knockers, and bangers.

sounds dirty.
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klimate10
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March 12th, 2018 at 9:05:30 PM permalink
Yea my ex girlfriend was a successful slot and roulette player. Ahead lifetime.

She bet $1 straight up on an e-roulette game and won $35. Then she put $5 in a slot machine and won a bonus round for $8.

She then declared gambling to be totally dumb and never gambled again.

Thatís about the only way to be ahead lifetime on slots.
bobbartop
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March 12th, 2018 at 9:17:09 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Some people rub, some knock. Then there's the ones the bang the machine so hard if you're sitting on opposite side the whole damn bank shakes.

Rubbers, knockers, and bangers.

sounds dirty.



I know a couple who rub the screen with a $20 bill. I've also sat next to a lady who handled what I thought were Rosary Beads while she played slots.

Or explain to me the people who pull their players card out because they're not winning. Not to be confused with people who just never use the card to start with. What a bunch of morons. Work all week, blow your brains out at the slots every other week, and never use the card. On a crowded night at my local casino I can see whole rows of people with NO card in their machine, despite the fact that the casino can be quite generous.
Don't believe anything until it is officially denied.
RS
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March 12th, 2018 at 11:48:36 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

If anyone would like me to rub their screen while they play, Iím more than willing.


Thatís what you young whippersnappers are calling it now a days?
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onenickelmiracle
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March 13th, 2018 at 2:11:41 AM permalink
Lock it link, major $5385. That's high enough to try. What do I know.
Lock her up instead!
onenickelmiracle
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March 13th, 2018 at 2:40:31 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Lock it link, major $5385. That's high enough to try. What do I know.

uncle
Lock her up instead!

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