Ibeatyouraces
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mickeycrimm
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April 9th, 2014 at 6:29:25 AM permalink
I had received some frequencies and values in this game from a WOV member who is an industry insider. The stats were based on the 88.5% game he was familiar with. I wouldn't put those stats up here because I didn't want to betray his confidence. I figured if he wanted everyone to know he would have put those stats in this thread instead of PM'ing them to me. But yesterday I called a friend of mine who has a friend at IGT. He contacted his friend and asked him about the game.

IGT has several configurations of the game that range from 83% to 91.98%. The guy fired the stats for the 91.98% game to us. Three Kings is a one hundred line video line game. You are betting one penny per line for a total bet of \$1. And also an extra 25 cents to qualify for the free games for a total bet of \$1.25. These are the frequencies and values he sent us:

The return in the main game is 55.472% of the total wager.

The return for the free games is:

Purple Lions

The frequency for catching three Purple Lions in the screen is 166
The Purple Lions automatically pay \$5 when you catch them.
The average number of free games is 21.2
An average free game is worth 128.16% of the \$1 bet

Red Lions

The frequency for catching three Red Lions in the screen is 601
The Red Lions automatically pay \$15 when you catch them.
The average number of free games is 41.74
An average free game is worth 200.79% of the \$1 bet.

Green Lions

The frequency for catching three Green Lions in the screen is 2615.
The Green Lions automatically pay \$44 when you catch them.
The average number of free games is 78.74
An average free game is worth 298.37% of the \$1 bet.
mickeycrimm
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April 9th, 2014 at 6:35:39 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I had received some frequencies and values in this game from a WOV member who is an industry insider. The stats were based on the 88.5% game he was familiar with. I wouldn't put those stats up here because I didn't want to betray his confidence. I figured if he wanted everyone to know he would have put those stats in this thread instead of PM'ing them to me. But yesterday I called a friend of mine who has a friend at IGT. He contacted his friend and asked him about the game.

IGT has several configurations of the game that range from 83% to 91.98%. The guy fired the stats for the 91.98% game to us. Three Kings is a one hundred line video line game. You are betting one penny per line for a total bet of \$1. And also an extra 25 cents to qualify for the free games for a total bet of \$1.25. These are the frequencies and values he sent us:

The return in the main game is 55.472% of the total wager.

The return for the free games is:

Purple Lions

The frequency for catching three Purple Lions in the screen is 166
The Purple Lions automatically pay \$5 when you catch them.
The average number of free games is 21.2
An average free game is worth 128.16% of the \$1 bet

Red Lions

The frequency for catching three Red Lions in the screen is 601
The Red Lions automatically pay \$15 when you catch them.
The average number of free games is 41.74
An average free game is worth 200.79% of the \$1 bet.

Green Lions

The frequency for catching three Green Lions in the screen is 2615.
The Green Lions automatically pay \$44 when you catch them.
The average number of free games is 78.74
An average free game is worth 298.37%.

I accidentally hit the post tab before finishing this post. I automatically recognized that there was no room for gaining enough extra free games--for instance, average number of free games for the Green Lions is 78.74--for this game to ever go positive. But I went ahead and did the math and came up with 92.6% overall payback. I was off about 0.62% from what the IGT guy told us the payback of the game was, 91.98%. So I went with his figure. Then I did a "what if?" What if I was getting the maximum number of free games everytime. The game came up at 96.6%.

I think my curiosity about Three Kings is over now.
Ibeatyouraces
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April 9th, 2014 at 7:35:15 AM permalink
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GWAE
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April 26th, 2014 at 6:14:30 AM permalink
So what numbers are worth playing. I am seeing one at 80/42/15
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April 26th, 2014 at 6:25:46 AM permalink
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GWAE
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April 26th, 2014 at 6:27:12 AM permalink
Ok ie dokie
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Mission146

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April 26th, 2014 at 7:19:51 AM permalink
That particular game sucks, pursuant to MicheyCrimm's analysis, it is literally never at an advantage, even with all Free Games maxed out. Although, I must admit, the game makes for a pretty impressive AP tricker, play it when all multipliers are Maxed...without the data who wouldn't think you were at some kind of an advantage.

EDIT: I forgot one thing:

Stay the *^%^*\$&* away from my Ultimate X machines!!! j/k
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GWAE
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April 26th, 2014 at 2:08:54 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That particular game sucks, pursuant to MicheyCrimm's analysis, it is literally never at an advantage, even with all Free Games maxed out. Although, I must admit, the game makes for a pretty impressive AP tricker, play it when all multipliers are Maxed...without the data who wouldn't think you were at some kind of an advantage.

EDIT: I forgot one thing:

Stay the *^%^*\$&* away from my Ultimate X machines!!! j/k

hahhahaah, I was there today for the slot tournament. I was able to vulture all of the UX even the high limit room. I found a ton of plays even a few 10x and 11x. I had a net loss of \$29 thanks to a \$2 3 play loss and a \$1 5 play loss.

However I did get dealt KKKK5 on QQ on DDb 5 play fo \$0.25 so that was fun.
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