40487
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May 17th, 2010 at 5:24:29 PM permalink
Sorry for the writing. Can you be dealt 30 pocket cards in a row without getting a .. AA AK AQ AJ A10..KK KA KQ KJ 10..QQ QA QK QJ Q10 , and so on to the 10?
And flops that have 2 same suit cards. example 7s 9s 10c be more common then a flop with all three different suits 4d 8c 2s? And flops with 2 same suit cards, and also have 2 cards that support a str8 example 10c 5c js.Be dealt at a higher % then a flop with any other combination. example 3s 7c qd, 2c 9d As, or even a 3c 8c ks types of combinations?
Should cards 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. Be dealt with a higher % of times. Then 10 J Q K A cards?
Also is it strange to have the cards A k be dealt on turn, or river more then the other 11 cards?
How many times can you be dealt with pocket suits, and on flop have no matching suit card?
After playing alot of online poker the last few years. And I first started playing poker with family , and friends in the second grade, and until 2005 I was playing alot of casino poker in Oklahoma. In 2005 A car wreck has left me unable to operate a automoble. So now only 2 day of the week I have a chance to get to the casinos. Which I can only handle about 2 hours of being in the casino with the noise, and other things. But I still do enough stacking that it makes it worth it. It maybe cause of all the senior tourist Oklahoma gets. But I like to think it has a little to do with my playing nature.
So going to live tables. Then online tables. I have recognized a difference in quality of pocket cards, and without just speculate on what I notice. I actually took notes on live game hands to online game hands. And the difference are to illuminating for me to ignore it no futher.
I do know situational difference of live poker to online poker. And of course number of player involed in a hand. And the number of cards dealt out. And how many of a specific card is dealt out. I do have a ?. Example if I have Qc kc and board cards are Qs Qd 2c 6c KS another player having a KK is greater then a player with a Q k ?
Bad beats are dramatically up online for me. I can read bad beat on the online table. They are a constant nature online. But the Odds are heavily for me. And I'll have more bad beats online in 2 hours. Then 20 hours at a live table. And I'm speaking of higher fullhouse of mine. Or the ace high flush on river. To beat my king high flush.
Manipulation has to be involed.
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May 17th, 2010 at 6:23:48 PM permalink
Seat 1: chffy (1,455), is sitting out THIS 10 MINUTES AFTER POST
Seat 2: hoagiefive (660)
Seat 3: H8ONLINEPOKER2 (1,755) I'm the sucker H80 notice during
the end I called the 4 of kind. But the odds on the 4 on
Seat 4: lumberjack9785 (1,455), river with the 3 4s played. And of course all in.
Seat 5: bigaceman6969 (1,455), And 21 cards already dealt.!
Seat 6: FlawlessFaction (1,455), And I just happen to have a fullhouse. THIS odds are
Seat 7: zackall (1,455), is sitting out
Seat 8: corleone22 (2,355) to hard for me to know..........Can you . tell me
Seat 9: Bludshott (1,455), is sitting out
chffy posts the small blind of 15
hoagiefive posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [Qc 6s]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 has 15 seconds left to act
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 30
lumberjack9785 folds
bigaceman6969 folds
FlawlessFaction folds
zackall folds
corleone22 folds
Bludshott folds
chffy folds
hoagiefive checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Qd 4d]
hoagiefive has 15 seconds left to act
hoagiefive bets 75
H8ONLINEPOKER2: FLUSH
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 75
*** TURN *** [4h Qd 4d] [9d]
hoagiefive has 15 seconds left to act
hoagiefive bets 225
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 225
*** RIVER *** [4h Qd 4d 9d] [4c]
hoagiefive bets 330, and is all in
H8ONLINEPOKER2 has 15 seconds left to act
H8ONLINEPOKER2: ?4 OF A KIND
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 330
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hoagiefive shows [Jc 4s] four of a kind, Fours
H8ONLINEPOKER2 mucks
hoagiefive wins the pot (1,335) with four of a kind, Fours
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May 17th, 2010 at 6:32:17 PM permalink
Seat 1: chffy (1,595)
Seat 2: Twoods01 (1,295), is sitting out
Seat 3: H8ONLINEPOKER2 (4,225)
Seat 4: lumberjack9785 (1,270), is sitting out
Seat 5: bigaceman6969 (1,385)
Seat 6: FlawlessFaction (1,260), is sitting out
Seat 7: zackall (1,260), is sitting out
Seat 8: corleone22 (1,280)
Seat 9: Bludshott (1,345), is sitting out
Bludshott posts the small blind of 25
chffy posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [8c Tc]
Twoods01 folds
H8ONLINEPOKER2 has 15 seconds left to act
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 50
lumberjack9785 folds
bigaceman6969 folds
FlawlessFaction folds
zackall folds
corleone22 calls 50 THEN THIS ..I KNOW LONG SHOT FOR ME..BUT LONGER FOR THE WINNER
Bludshott folds
chffy raises to 225
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 175
corleone22 raises to 1,280, and is all in
chffy calls 1,055
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 1,055
*** FLOP *** [7s 4c 6d]
chffy bets 315, and is all in
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 315
chffy shows [Jh 5h]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows [8c Tc]
corleone22 shows [8h Ad]
*** TURN *** [7s 4c 6d] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [7s 4c 6d 3d] [6s]
chffy shows a straight, Seven high
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows a pair of Sixes
chffy wins the side pot (630) with a straight, Seven high
corleone22 shows a pair of Sixes
chffy wins the main pot (3,865) with a straight, Seven high
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rudeboyoi
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May 17th, 2010 at 6:39:59 PM permalink
quit with the table chatter.

the problem with poker is that players expect to win so when the results dont quite live up to their expectations, they tend to get upset. when youre playing in the pit, players expect to lose so its nothing special if they do happen to lose.
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May 17th, 2010 at 7:02:59 PM permalink
Seat 1: Be94ware (1,090), is sitting out
Seat 2: PhillytheFish (670)
Seat 3: BufferDog (1,815), is sitting out
Seat 4: DJ54Rulz (2,357), is sitting out
Seat 5: Droxside (3,240), is sitting out
Seat 6: mrs dab777 (910)
Seat 7: H8ONLINEPOKER2 (6,155)
Seat 8: stonerhaze (8,278)
Seat 9: Revic (1,080), is sitting out
stonerhaze posts the small blind of 40
Revic posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [Jd Kd]
Be94ware folds
PhillytheFish raises to 670, and is all in
BufferDog folds
DJ54Rulz folds
Droxside folds
mrs dab777 folds
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 670
stonerhaze calls 630
Revic folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 9c 6d]
stonerhaze checks
H8ONLINEPOKER2 bets 800
stonerhaze calls 800
*** TURN *** [6h 9c 6d] [5c]
stonerhaze bets 960
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 960
*** RIVER *** [6h 9c 6d 5c] [4h]
stonerhaze checks
BufferDog has been disconnected
H8ONLINEPOKER2 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stonerhaze shows [7h Ad] a pair of Sixes
H8ONLINEPOKER2 mucks
stonerhaze wins the side pot (3,520) with a pair of Sixes
PhillytheFish shows [8c Ac] a pair of Sixes
PhillytheFish wins the main pot (2,090) with a pair of Sixes

Seat 1: Be94ware (1,090), is sitting out
Seat 2: PhillytheFish (170)
Seat 3: BufferDog (1,815), is sitting out
Seat 4: DJ54Rulz (2,357), is sitting out
Seat 5: Droxside (3,240)
Seat 6: mrs dab777 (1,070)
Seat 7: H8ONLINEPOKER2 (7,315)
Seat 8: stonerhaze (7,458)
Seat 9: Revic (1,080), is sitting out
H8ONLINEPOKER2 posts the small blind of 40
stonerhaze posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [Qs Ts]
Revic folds
Be94ware folds
PhillytheFish calls 80
BufferDog folds
DJ54Rulz folds
Droxside folds
mrs dab777 calls 80
H8ONLINEPOKER2 raises to 160
stonerhaze calls 80
PhillytheFish calls 80
mrs dab777 calls 80
*** FLOP *** [8d 6s Ad]
Droxside is sitting out
H8ONLINEPOKER2 has 15 seconds left to act
H8ONLINEPOKER2 checks
stonerhaze checks
PhillytheFish checks
mrs dab777 checks
*** TURN *** [8d 6s Ad] [8s]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 bets 400
stonerhaze calls 400
PhillytheFish calls 10, and is all in
mrs dab777 folds
*** RIVER *** [8d 6s Ad 8s] [6d]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 bets 600
stonerhaze calls 600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows [Qs Ts] two pair, Eights and Sixes
stonerhaze shows [Kh 6h] a full house, Sixes full of Eights
stonerhaze wins the side pot (1,980) with a full house, Sixes full of Eights
PhillytheFish shows [8c 7h] a full house, Eights full of Sixes
PhillytheFish wins the main pot (670) with a full house, Eights full of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***

THIS ONE WAS OUT OF WONDING HOW IT WOULD BE PLAYED..USALLY WOULDN'T
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May 17th, 2010 at 7:15:50 PM permalink
Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [Jd Kd] next three played hands. .
Be94ware folds
PhillytheFish raises to 670, and is all in
BufferDog folds
DJ54Rulz folds
Droxside folds
mrs dab777 folds
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 670
stonerhaze calls 630
Revic folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 9c 6d]
stonerhaze checks
H8ONLINEPOKER2 bets 800
stonerhaze calls 800
*** TURN *** [6h 9c 6d] [5c]
stonerhaze bets 960
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 960
*** RIVER *** [6h 9c 6d 5c] [4h]
stonerhaze checks
BufferDog has been disconnected
H8ONLINEPOKER2 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stonerhaze shows [7h Ad] a pair of Sixes
H8ONLINEPOKER2 mucks
stonerhaze wins the side pot (3,520) with a pair of Sixes
PhillytheFish shows [8c Ac] a pair of Sixes
PhillytheFish wins the main pot (2,090) with a pair of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***


Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [Ad 7s]
PhillytheFish has 15 seconds left to act
PhillytheFish raises to 400
BufferDog folds
DJ54Rulz folds
Droxside folds
mrs dab777 folds
H8ONLINEPOKER2 raises to 3,725, and is all in
stonerhaze folds
Revic folds
Be94ware folds
PhillytheFish calls 1,690, and is all in
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows [Ad 7s]
PhillytheFish shows [Ah Ts]
Uncalled bet of 1,635 returned to H8ONLINEPOKER2
*** FLOP *** [3s 3h 9s]
*** TURN *** [3s 3h 9s] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [3s 3h 9s 6c] [Qh]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows a pair of Threes
PhillytheFish shows a pair of Threes
PhillytheFish wins the pot (4,300) with a pair of Thre


Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [6s Ac]
mrs dab777 folds
H8ONLINEPOKER2 calls 80
stonerhaze folds
Revic folds
Be94ware folds
PhillytheFish folds
BufferDog folds
DJ54Rulz folds
Droxside checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 5c 6h]
Droxside bets 80
H8ONLINEPOKER2 raises to 480
Droxside calls 400
*** TURN *** [3c 5c 6h] [8d]
Droxside bets 80
H8ONLINEPOKER2 raises to 1,315, and is all in
Droxside calls 1,235
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows [6s Ac]
Droxside shows [6c 3h]
*** RIVER *** [3c 5c 6h 8d] [6d]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 shows three of a kind, Sixes
Droxside shows a full house, Sixes full of Threes
Droxside wins the pot (3,790) with a full house, Sixes full of Threes
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40487
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May 17th, 2010 at 7:25:46 PM permalink
you answer was on a simplistic outlook on the game. It's just luck is AMATURE view at best. Sorry, play both types of games. The live tables, and online tables. Their's a lot of more low odd winning hands. If a player is winning after flop. Shouldn't that player win more then lose?
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May 17th, 2010 at 8:17:01 PM permalink
Quote: 40487

you answer was on a simplistic outlook on the game. It's just luck is AMATURE view at best. Sorry, play both types of games. The live tables, and online tables. Their's a lot of more low odd winning hands. If a player is winning after flop. Shouldn't that player win more then lose?



The one thing I will agree with is that "There's a lot more low odd winning hands." online. In my experience, it's because people play way more crappy hands online than in person. When you draw out with garbage online, you don't have to face the rest of the table. At the real thing, you have real people sitting 4 feet away from you that are now pissed at your "bad" play. So maybe in a hand at the casino, 3 people go to the flop...online, those same people with the same cards, six people go to the flop. That's going to cut into the value of a good hand. People are more timid in real life than online. Confrontations online are meaningless. You also win more with good hands against garbage that eventually folds or mucks after getting beat. But you don't see the low cards on those hands if they don't show. When you don't get that bad beat, the pots are larger. So if you enjoy playing online, expect to see many more hands where you lose to garbage. I've said many times that fixing online poker seems wayyyyy too much trouble and risk for what could possibly be gained. If you wanted to prove actual malfeasance, you'd probably need about 50,000 hands for a fair sample of results.
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May 17th, 2010 at 8:37:07 PM permalink
Q6o, 8cTc, A6o - fold all those pf instead of limping in early position

KdJd - fold the turn

QsTs - dont minraise pf, dont bet the turn when you check that flop
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May 17th, 2010 at 9:50:24 PM permalink
The last three hands I posted. I believe in live games I WOULDN'T of push. It was more of a fact seeking adventure. But thanks for the tip.
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May 17th, 2010 at 9:52:43 PM permalink
50,OOO hands you got it. I'm not going anywhere.
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May 17th, 2010 at 10:39:59 PM permalink
Do they expect 30 hands in a row, or more of not getting any of 1 combo of the top 5 cards? Or how about have pocket cards that are always lower then the dealt board cards? And on top of that if that player did get a higher card in pocket then their would be a pair dealt in board cards? And how about it happening over 98% of 40 hands? Huh?
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May 18th, 2010 at 6:53:05 AM permalink
I'm not going to look though yards of poker hands in shorthand, sorry.
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May 28th, 2010 at 12:58:33 AM permalink
how do you want it??????????/ just asking.
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