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rdw4potus
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May 15th, 2012 at 3:19:55 PM permalink
Quote: ShiftyRicky

DJ and rdw, thank you for your input.

rdw...i would not replace a game I would add it.

As far as slow goes, i feel the same way.

I think someone in a different post said something about drinking and being able to play this game. I was thinking along those lines too. Maybe too much going on for the casual player.



What's the nature of your casino? Do you have a lot of shows/drawings/events where people would sit and play to kill time? What games do you currently offer? I think if I were just relaxing and killing time, I'd rather play 7-14-21 than BJ. BJ can be almost frenzied, with dealers often trained to go as fast as humanly possible. This would be a more relaxed/relaxing alternative.
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May 15th, 2012 at 4:22:53 PM permalink
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May 15th, 2012 at 6:49:17 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

I just realized something regarding the new rules..... the "perfect pair" is a little bogus.

Am I right in my conclusion that the only time the "perfect pair" comes into play is when you have 21 and 7 and the dealer also has 21 or 7? So it only turns a push into a win. Otherwise it's the same as just winning on the 7 and 21 spot normally.



Yes. They try to make it look really good, then they lump the wins together to make it look bigger.
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May 16th, 2012 at 11:24:40 AM permalink
I contacted the manufacturer, and realized that I had a mistake. My problem was with scoring the "14" hand when there was a perfect pair. Anyhow, the optimal ev of the game is -0.007941 . My math disagrees with the manufacturer's math after the first 6 significant digits, but I'm not concerned about that small a difference.

Without making any exceptions to the previous power rating table, the player's ev is -0.009144.

By adding a point to all perfect pairs and then favoring perfect pairs in the event of a tie, the power rating ev is -0.008564.
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May 17th, 2012 at 4:51:52 AM permalink
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May 20th, 2012 at 4:39:39 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I contacted the manufacturer, and realized that I had a mistake. My problem was with scoring the "14" hand when there was a perfect pair. Anyhow, the optimal ev of the game is -0.007941 . My math disagrees with the manufacturer's math after the first 6 significant digits, but I'm not concerned about that small a difference.

Without making any exceptions to the previous power rating table, the player's ev is -0.009144.

By adding a point to all perfect pairs and then favoring perfect pairs in the event of a tie, the power rating ev is -0.008564.


I get the following:
Optimal ev: -0.00794105188425196
No exceptions: -0.00916055707249382
Add a point to perfect pairs and favoring in case of tie: -0.00852548813960481
Note that I also use other tie breaking criteria: If there is more than one way to get the same number of points, set the best "21" then "14". This might not be the best sorting with the new rules, but it was with the old.
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May 20th, 2012 at 5:47:01 PM permalink
Quote: miplet

I get the following:
Optimal ev: -0.00794105188425196


You and I match, so maybe the manufacturer is slightly off, but not enough to matter.
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May 23rd, 2012 at 12:50:02 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

The How To Play section of their website lists a suggested player strategy, which looks pretty good to me.


I did my best to interpret their suggested player strategy. I get a house edge of 3.57827060344556 % Hands with an ace and 10 get messed up the most. The worst offenders are:
A 4 9 10 10 10
A 4 8 10 10 10
A 4 7 10 10 10
A 4 8 9 10 10
A 4 7 9 10 10
A 4 7 8 10 10

The best way is bust , 14, 21
The suggested way is 5 , bust, 20
Making the above changes lowers the house edge to 3.30777204930336 %
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May 23rd, 2012 at 5:00:35 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

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The best way is bust , 14, 21
The suggested way is 5 , bust, 20
Making the above changes lowers the house edge to 3.30777204930336 %

Making WHICH changes? The way you wrote it, it's confusing which one would have the lower edge.
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May 23rd, 2012 at 9:09:25 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Making WHICH changes? The way you wrote it, it's confusing which one would have the lower edge.


Playing those hands as bust the "7" hand and 14 in the "14" hand and 21 in the "21" lowers the house edge. The rack card suggested busting the "14" hand if you must bust one hand, but in those cases, it is better to bust the "7" hand.
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