ThatDonGuy
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October 24th, 2017 at 2:00:45 PM permalink
The MegaMillions lottery will have some new rules starting this Saturday:

The draw is 5/70 + 1/25

Tickets will be $2 each

In addition, there will be a second kind of ticket, where $3 lets you choose two sets of numbers, but either you win the jackpot or you win nothing.

The starting jackpot will be $40 million (instead of the current $25 million)

Also, apparently the smaller prize amounts will be increasing, but I cannot find a source for the actual payouts yet.
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October 24th, 2017 at 2:28:53 PM permalink
Same rules apply....Never play this thing!!
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October 24th, 2017 at 2:53:46 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

In addition, there will be a second kind of ticket, where $3 lets you choose two sets of numbers, but either you win the jackpot or you win nothing.



I will be really curious to see how this is received.
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October 24th, 2017 at 2:58:16 PM permalink
I kind of like the MegaMillions where it is at $1.

I don't play very often, but when I do play I like to get one PowerBall ($2), one MegaMillion ($1), and one Scratch-Off ($2) for a nice round $5 bill.

Guess I'll have to slow my roll and drop down to a $1 Scratch-Off.

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October 24th, 2017 at 3:10:58 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

I will be really curious to see how this is received.


I just saw a news report about it. They said they're making these changes due to "customer demands for higher paying jackpots."
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October 24th, 2017 at 3:24:11 PM permalink
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I just saw a news report about it. They said they're making these changes due to "customer demands for higher paying jackpots."

I doubt they did any extensive surveys, but considering the frenzy when the jackpot gets huge, it's a fair assumption that they're right.
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October 24th, 2017 at 3:45:20 PM permalink
So someone can hit 5/5 and miss the powerball by one and get nothing? Seems fair.
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October 24th, 2017 at 3:47:49 PM permalink
I’ll grab a powerball or mega millions ticket a couple times a year when the jackpots get really high.

I just buy 1 ticket to raise my chances from zero to non-zero.
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October 24th, 2017 at 5:27:48 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

So someone can hit 5/5 and miss the powerball by one and get nothing? Seems fair.



That will drive the first person to hit that insane.
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October 24th, 2017 at 6:54:19 PM permalink
As we all know, the lottery could just seed the jackpot more and accept a smaller cut of dollars spent. The media could mention this, but it's apparently not a fact.
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October 25th, 2017 at 7:46:39 AM permalink
Return Table for $40 million jackpot
WhiteMegacombinationsprobabilitypaysreturn
5110.000000003304961888400000000.1321984755
50240.0000000793190853110000000.07931908531
413250.000001074112614100000.01074112614
407,8000.000025778702735000.01288935136
3120,8000.000068743207272000.01374864145
30499,2000.001649836974100.01649836974
21436,8000.001443607353100.01443607353
2010,483,2000.0346465764600
113,385,2000.0111879569840.04475182793
1081,244,8000.268510967600
018,259,8880.0272986150420.05459723008
00198,237,3120.655166760900
302,575,35010.3791801811

That’s almost 38 cents on your $2 bet.
PS
I did this on my phone, so someone might want to double check.
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October 25th, 2017 at 9:31:11 AM permalink
"There will be better odds to win $1 million prizes and higher secondary prizes."
What they don't mention is, the payout for the $1 million prize drops from 999,999-1 to 499,999-1.

This reminds me of when the California lottery announced that its Big Spin wheel would have more million dollar spaces - by replacing some of the existing Grand Prize (which was always $2 million or more) spaces with $1 million spaces; in fact, the number of "$1 million or more" spaces decreased.
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October 25th, 2017 at 9:57:42 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I doubt they did any extensive surveys, but considering the frenzy when the jackpot gets huge, it's a fair assumption that they're right.

yup, this change is to attract those who only buy when the jackpot is huge.
they will still get the $$$ from the sheep that always play every week.

and the best way to get huge jackpot is to double the amount to buy a ticket.
aka compete with PowerBall.

hm.. 2 tix for $3 but only eligible for 1st or 2nd prize is a nice gimmick and aimed at those who only buy when the jackpot is huge.
kudos to the marketing firm who created this
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October 25th, 2017 at 10:23:29 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

hm.. 2 tix for $3 but only eligible for 1st or 2nd prize is a nice gimmick and aimed at those who only buy when the jackpot is huge.
kudos to the marketing firm who created this



It's only the 1st prize. Jackpot or nothing. I would never ever ever buy a ticket like that.
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October 25th, 2017 at 10:41:55 AM permalink
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It's only the 1st prize. Jackpot or nothing. I would never ever ever buy a ticket like that.


Me either. Could you imagine royal flush or nothing in video poker.
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October 25th, 2017 at 11:00:21 AM permalink
Silly. They went from a 258,890,850 to 1 shot to more than 302 million to 1, if what I read is correct. That is worse than PowerBall (292,201,338 to 1.) Of course, I don't play until those numbers double, because it costs $2 per ticket. I don't play for the small payback, I play, like I presume most people, for the jackpot. They have just reduced, potentially, their opportunity to get my money. We shall see, though, as it depends on how the jackpot rises.

That 2 plays for $3 sounds like a resort fee is coming to the lottery. Ridiculous. Only win the jackpot but none of the lesser prizes. I guess there are some people who think that's a good deal.
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October 25th, 2017 at 11:02:38 AM permalink
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That 2 plays for $3 sounds like a resort fee is coming to the lottery. Ridiculous. Only win the jackpot but none of the lesser prizes. I guess there are some people who think that's a good deal.


Yeah, the people who devised this scam!
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October 25th, 2017 at 11:05:48 AM permalink
Quote: bushman

That 2 plays for $3 sounds like a resort fee is coming to the lottery. Ridiculous. Only win the jackpot but none of the lesser prizes. I guess there are some people who think that's a good deal.


Here's the way I see it: if somebody wanted to play for a chance at the million dollars, they would play every time, and not wait until the jackpot reached, say, $100 million. The only difference between playing with a $100 million jackpot and playing with a $200 million jackpot is the opportunity to win $100 million more if the jackpot hits. The "jackpot or nothing" option is targeting these people.
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October 25th, 2017 at 11:25:37 AM permalink
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Here's the way I see it: if somebody wanted to play for a chance at the million dollars, they would play every time, and not wait until the jackpot reached, say, $100 million. The only difference between playing with a $100 million jackpot and playing with a $200 million jackpot is the opportunity to win $100 million more if the jackpot hits. The "jackpot or nothing" option is targeting these people.


So, pony up the extra $0.50 and get the chance at a lesser prize, while still having that shot at the million. Or, if you're paying $3 for 2, pony up the extra $1. I get playing solely for the million dollars, but at the expense of lesser prizes? Or, at least that is what my lesser mind thinks. I would be interested to see the numbers of those "special" tickets that are sold. "We have a demand for innovation to keep fresh, entertaining lottery games and to deliver the attention-grabbing jackpots," Mega Millions president Debbie D. Alford said in a statement. That certainly is some fresh innovation, she is delivering.
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October 25th, 2017 at 12:07:30 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

yup, this change is to attract those who only buy when the jackpot is huge.
they will still get the $$$ from the sheep that always play every week.

and the best way to get huge jackpot is to double the amount to buy a ticket.
aka compete with PowerBall.

hm.. 2 tix for $3 but only eligible for 1st or 2nd prize is a nice gimmick and aimed at those who only buy when the jackpot is huge.
kudos to the marketing firm who created this


I'm surprised state lotteries went along with the "just the jackpot" thing, assuming their opinion means anything for this decision.

A friend of mine owned a ghetto convenience store, and when I was in college I'd help him out occasionally running the lottery counter. Nearly everyone who wins a small $1-$5 prize puts that money towards another ticket (usually a scratchie if the jackpot was hit). If the Just The Jackpot wager becomes popular, it could result in some lost profits for the state lottos.
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October 25th, 2017 at 12:26:39 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

A friend of mine owned a ghetto convenience store, and when I was in college I'd help him out occasionally running the lottery counter. Nearly everyone who wins a small $1-$5 prize puts that money towards another ticket (usually a scratchie if the jackpot was hit). If the Just The Jackpot wager becomes popular, it could result in some lost profits for the state lottos.



A good point that I did not consider.
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October 25th, 2017 at 1:11:34 PM permalink
Speaking of Mega Millions, The Michigan winner collected his $21 million today. He had a "lucky" Friday the 13th.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.mlive.com/lottery/index.ssf/2017/10/mega_millions_jackpot_winner_c.amp
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October 25th, 2017 at 2:16:14 PM permalink
Quote: bushman

So, pony up the extra $0.50 and get the chance at a lesser prize, while still having that shot at the million. Or, if you're paying $3 for 2, pony up the extra $1.


Something I did not consider up until now: $3 instead of $4 is one thing. A pool of people paying $300 for 100 quick-picks instead of $400 is another.

Of course, 100 tickets means 100 chances that the pool would have won $1 million had they spent the extra $100.
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