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January 1st, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM permalink
Quote: MrCasinoGames

Yes, I am sure.
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Thanks! Happy 2016 to you too!
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January 1st, 2016 at 9:28:21 AM permalink
In reality- even when it is an ap situation- I'm amazed at how much some small side bets slow down the game- I believe in some games such as pai gow the side bet cuts the hands per hour almost in half- some of the computers are so awkward and the dealers are just not fluid with it
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January 1st, 2016 at 11:19:03 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

In reality- even when it is an ap situation- I'm amazed at how much some small side bets slow down the game-



Now that I think about it, I've seen those red lights malfunction lots of times. Put a chip on it and it just won't light up. Probably money to be made if somebody could create one that worked properly.
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January 1st, 2016 at 11:24:31 AM permalink
Funny I thought the same thing I use to prefer the manual drop
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Wizardofnothing
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January 1st, 2016 at 11:30:17 AM permalink
Not only do the lights malfunction. It there is an issue with the box they use and having to cover it during hand with a Lamar because the dealer apron leans on it
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January 1st, 2016 at 11:43:08 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Now that I think about it, I've seen those red lights malfunction lots of times. Put a chip on it and it just won't light up. Probably money to be made if somebody could create one that worked properly.


There's an easy fix. Use one of the small "on/off" buttons from a craps table or something similar to keep the light lit up. All the player has to do is add the $1 chip on top of it. And if the player wishes to quit betting on it, just remove the button.
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Wizardofnothing
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January 1st, 2016 at 1:58:33 PM permalink
Lol that sounds ten times worse
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MrCasinoGames
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January 2nd, 2016 at 4:44:01 AM permalink
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The whole point is that red light bets have lots of costs that reduce the incremental profit they create. Many baccarat tables have very high limits and lots of baccarat players make very large wagers. In other games, where the table limits are usually pretty low and players usually play near the table minimum, the wagers might actually create a bit of incremental revenue. But, in baccarat, the sky is the limit for wagers, so the cost equation is squarely against a red light bet on most tables. Of course, if the red-light bet is only allowed on a low-limit game (or a low-roller casino), it might generate a bit of profit. The profitability issue rests on the ratio of the red-light t-win per bet to the table average baccarat bet.


In South Africa, We normally use the R25-bet ($1.6) or the R10-bet ($.64) set-up, but casinos can choose to use the R50-bet ($3.2) set-up or any other set-ups, if they want.

PS. The House Edge varies depending on the Progressive-bet size, the casino and the government's approval, eg. the House-edge set-up for the R10-bet ($.64) is higher then the set-up for R50-bet ($3.2).

To Me, as one of the successful Casino Games Inventor with 10 different Table-Games that are still being play in casinos today (None in US), I am happy:
The game works, Player like playing it, Casino want it, and I get pay lease fee.


My 10 Casino Table Games that are still play in casinos today:

Casino Hold'em® ©2000.

Raise'em® Poker Plus ©2012.

Power 8'sô Baccarat-Progressive ©2014.

Block Pro® Blackjack-Progressive ©2003.

Lucky-Draw Baccarat® ©2010.

Blackjack Block Bonus® ©2003.

Roulette Link-bets® ©2010.

Caribbean Hold'emô ©2003.

Casino Holdem Progressive 5/7® ©2003.

Casino Omahaô ©2003.
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January 2nd, 2016 at 7:54:30 AM permalink
I think there are good points being made on each side if the discussion. There are time & motion issues to address, but if players are playing the progressive, properties will figure out if those issues are sufficient to remove the game.

One thought I had was if the progressive really is a small bet related to the main Player/Banker wagers, I bet participation percentage is very high. I can't see too many $100+ main bet players not throwing $1-$5 (whatever the fixed amout is) on the progressive every hand as well.

And if a property has 80%+ participation on a 15-20% HE side bet, they are very unlikely to believe they are not making more money by having the bet on the table. The progressive software will tell them this is the case and any fluctuation in main game win, unless dramatic, will be passed off as variance.

Finally, isn't the pace of baccarat fairly slow anyway? I haven't been to Macau or other international locations to watch a game player, but in the US, baccarat dealers seem to sit and wait while players study their charts and the hand history screen for 60+ secs before deciding to bet Player or Banker.

Bottom line is it sounds like the game is in play, getting action and Stephen is getting his lease payment...that is where the rubber meets the road in game development!!
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January 2nd, 2016 at 8:42:18 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

...Finally, isn't the pace of baccarat fairly slow anyway? I haven't been to Macau or other international locations to watch a game player, but in the US, baccarat dealers seem to sit and wait while players study their charts and the hand history screen for 60+ secs before deciding to bet Player or Banker.


Exactly!! Baccarat, no matter what type, is NOT the very fast 100+ decisions per hour that it used to be. It's a hell of a lot slower than any blackjack game these days.
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