AxelWolf
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May 2nd, 2014 at 11:12:31 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

As you sit dumbfounded looking at a results history on the Christmas tree, showing a streak of say 8 black results in a row, you do in fact start to question your sanity for being so weak and stupid you didn't ride said streak out of fear it would not last. Then it happens again and again and you go back to your hotel and beat your head againist a urine soaked wall hoping for some relief. It's no system, it's merely waiting for said streak as I repeat, and not being afraid to jump on it and ride it out.

Can you give us an example of what you are looking for and when and how much you would bet at that point? If the streak breaks once you place that bet, what next?

What kind of bankroll you working this with?

Next time im out I will take a photo of a few scoreboards post the numbers up one at a time. Let you jump in when you think its the right time to bet. Tell us how much and what you would be betting at that point. Then i will then post the next number from the photo and we will see how your betting would do. at the end I will post up the Pic and we can verify how well you would be doing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TerribleTom
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May 2nd, 2014 at 11:47:41 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

As you sit dumbfounded looking at a results history on the Christmas tree, showing a streak of say 8 black results in a row, you do in fact start to question your sanity for being so weak and stupid you didn't ride said streak out of fear it would not last. Then it happens again and again and you go back to your hotel and beat your head againist a urine soaked wall hoping for some relief. It's no system, it's merely waiting for said streak as I repeat, and not being afraid to jump on it and ride it out.



NokTang
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May 3rd, 2014 at 3:29:25 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Can you give us an example of what you are looking for and when and how much you would bet at that point? If the streak breaks once you place that bet, what next?

What kind of bankroll you working this with?

Next time im out I will take a photo of a few scoreboards post the numbers up one at a time. Let you jump in when you think its the right time to bet. Tell us how much and what you would be betting at that point. Then i will then post the next number from the photo and we will see how your betting would do. at the end I will post up the Pic and we can verify how well you would be doing.



There seems to be some confusion. Not surprising considering the topic and variety of members we have. The casino being discussed is most likely using a high end "wheel", not some locally made copy. This is as indicated elsewhere, a big outfit. Take a look for yourself. Their min wager is $25.usd on even money bets and $5.usd on the various numbers. All the wheels are single zero and when zero hits, all the other wagers are raked off the board.(No en prison as has been mentioned)

We/I walk in and pick a table, usually one not opened, and wager a $100.usd chip on red/black, whichever last dropped and where the ball sits(usually). I then start to focus on the other even money options, but almost always have a red/black wager in action.

If win, next wager is $200. on that same color(or other even money box). Hits again, $300.usd. The $300.usd was never pressed up as like I said, that's enough to get my attention being a poor underfunded soul. When you get streaks of five or six or more of course, you build up some chips! If on the other hand, everything is choppy you may hold your own or lose, but certainly not make winning much of a possibility.

As for bankroll, it isn't thought of in that respect. I buy in for $1000.usd at a time but at the cage. No table buying in other than of course chip breakdowns.

It isn't a system. It seems however to work with the single zero wheel and at this particular property.

I have almost confirmed a trip to Laos next week to try it out again at their casino. I have no real interest in going to Macau but that is an option for many in Asia. Macau seems to "big" for my taste but never say never. It's also expensive to stay in Macau and/or Hong Kong and Hong Kong would also be a difficult commute.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 3:32:39 AM permalink
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Finally, why are you staying in a hotel with a "urine-soaked" wall? Or are you peeing on the wall yourself?



This refers to the Philippines. While not really "Asia", it is close enough for this discussion. Had you ever been in a girlee bar in Angeles City you would know exactly what urine soaked walls smell like and feel like when one beats his own head againist it in an effort to understand his prior actions i.e. letting a streak run without jumping on it.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 3:49:27 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

There is no force in the universe that will serve to enforce a streak or (the opposite) stop a streak.



The need to worry about me "trolling" is odd. This is an open forum, roulette is in most casino's, but single zero roulette is another beast due to its reduced house advantage. I still maintain you see more streaks in this game than most if not all others including craps.

I disagree with your conclusion above. When I chicken out and don't bet up the streaks, that's when they seem to happen.....right in front of my eyes....just my bad luck you assert? So be it. However, please help us understand what's so bad about the discussion you have to call it "trolling" aka I think trouble making? It's just the internet for goodness sakes. I've seen much worse things than a discussion about gambling at single zero roulette in a third world casino.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 5:55:51 AM permalink
Isn't there a "law of large numbers" dynamic here? That basically says, if you spin the wheel, say, 10,000 times, you're 99% (or whatever) guaranteed to have a streak in there of, say, 25 (or whatever) reds in a row?

That's not saying you can predict or feel it coming or know when it stops/starts and bet accordingly ... I think NokTang is kidding himself and if I could predict the future I'd play lotto over roulette anyway ... it's just to comment on the math of it.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 10:30:32 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

As you sit dumbfounded looking at a results history on the Christmas tree, showing a streak of say 8 black results in a row, you do in fact start to question your sanity for being so weak and stupid you didn't ride said streak out of fear it would not last. Then it happens again and again and you go back to your hotel and beat your head againist a urine soaked wall hoping for some relief. It's no system, it's merely waiting for said streak as I repeat, and not being afraid to jump on it and ride it out.



No, not at all.

Streaks of 8 in a row are not uncommon. In single-zero, 8 reds in a row will happen about once every 318.7 times you spin after a black. Not coincidentally, 8 blacks in a row will happen about once out of every 318.7 times after you spin after a red. So, something that happens more than 1 time in 160 is not that big of a deal.

The reason that it doesn't bother me is that I know that, out of all the 7-long streaks that I see, only 18/37 will continue to an 8-long streak, while 19/37 of them will end at 7. So, if I bet on all of them, I lose an average of one bet every 37 attempts, and I prefer to win than to lose!
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May 4th, 2014 at 5:49:27 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

No, not at all.

Streaks of 8 in a row are not uncommon. In single-zero, 8 reds in a row will happen about once every 318.7 times you spin after a black. Not coincidentally, 8 blacks in a row will happen about once out of every 318.7 times after you spin after a red. So, something that happens more than 1 time in 160 is not that big of a deal.

The reason that it doesn't bother me is that I know that, out of all the 7-long streaks that I see, only 18/37 will continue to an 8-long streak, while 19/37 of them will end at 7. So, if I bet on all of them, I lose an average of one bet every 37 attempts, and I prefer to win than to lose!


Good synopsis AxiomOfChoice, we all know that you can make a lot of money betting streaks but as with most things in life, the devil is in the details. How do you know when a streak is starting and how do you know when it has ended, those are the hard parts. If I knew the answer to that I would be in Vegas right now making a lot of money instead of writing on this gambling board :).
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May 5th, 2014 at 2:38:34 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

The need to worry about me "trolling" is odd. This is an open forum, roulette is in most casino's, but single zero roulette is another beast due to its reduced house advantage. I still maintain you see more streaks in this game than most if not all others including craps.

I disagree with your conclusion above. When I chicken out and don't bet up the streaks, that's when they seem to happen.....right in front of my eyes....just my bad luck you assert? So be it. However, please help us understand what's so bad about the discussion you have to call it "trolling" aka I think trouble making? It's just the internet for goodness sakes. I've seen much worse things than a discussion about gambling at single zero roulette in a third world casino.



I read this and I get one impression - you cannot accept the realities of the math and insist that your instincts/gut feeling/gambling addiction/whatever you want to call it is superior to the math.

Every time you stop playing, a streak starts. You like to bet the streaks, and the universe is apparently against you in this matter.

A single-zero wheel is not significantly more prone to streaks than a double-zero wheel.

You are seeing what you want to see and being willfully blind to the reality of the situation.
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May 5th, 2014 at 3:18:06 PM permalink
I'd argue that single zero roulette is significantly more prone to "streaks" than double zero roulette but that doesn't at all mean its predictable.
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May 5th, 2014 at 3:21:00 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

I'd argue that single zero roulette is significantly more prone to "streaks" than double zero roulette but that doesn't at all mean its predictable.



Yet it's far less prone to a streak of green. Hoho!
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May 5th, 2014 at 3:25:56 PM permalink
Quote: Lemieux66

Yet it's far less prone to a streak of green. Hoho!



Lol. Now ill be waiting for the thread why double zero roulette is better than single zero roulette to start.
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May 5th, 2014 at 3:33:27 PM permalink
Bet on the green to make the green homieeeee
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