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October 9th, 2018 at 5:05:32 PM permalink
I have been thinking of this idea for a while. and a response within another thread has made me decide to post this list.

The caisnos use psycological tricks, that our brains will never understand, simply because of the amount of tricks there are.

Im want to reverse or at least block out or just be able to identify a trick when it happens, so you can choose otherwise to reduce the casinos edge and improve yours.

Im going to limit the list of "psycological blocking tricks" to the physical senses

1. Wear sun glasses - Bright lights which might induce a want to gamble at a specific spot where you wouldnt have before. Wearing sunglasses wont necessarily stop you from gambling but might help in shading. This is the dumbest rule but im using it as an example

2. Wear ear plugs - the less noise you hear, the clearer your thoughts. without distractions, you are less likely to make a mistake. although you might look stupid wearing ear plugs in a casino oh well.

3. eat before you go / bring a water - dont let yourself spend money on food or drinks.

4. only bring X amount of dollars - dont allow yourself to spend more than you bring - although this is more of bankroll management and common sense

anyone else care to think of something that might not be on here?
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October 9th, 2018 at 5:13:53 PM permalink
Dont drink the free alcohol

Bring a timepiece (I dont say watch because your cellphone is a timepiece these days)
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October 9th, 2018 at 5:14:59 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I have been thinking of this idea for a while. and a response within another thread has made me decide to post this list.

The caisnos use psycological tricks, that our brains will never understand, simply because of the amount of tricks there are.

Im want to reverse or at least block out or just be able to identify a trick when it happens, so you can choose otherwise to reduce the casinos edge and improve yours.

Im going to limit the list of "psycological blocking tricks" to the physical senses

1. Wear sun glasses - Bright lights which might induce a want to gamble at a specific spot where you wouldnt have before. Wearing sunglasses wont necessarily stop you from gambling but might help in shading. This is the dumbest rule but im using it as an example

2. Wear ear plugs - the less noise you hear, the clearer your thoughts. without distractions, you are less likely to make a mistake. although you might look stupid wearing ear plugs in a casino oh well.

3. eat before you go / bring a water - dont let yourself spend money on food or drinks.

4. only bring X amount of dollars - dont allow yourself to spend more than you bring - although this is more of bankroll management and common sense

anyone else care to think of something that might not be on here?



Is this a post for losing Ploppies? I assume you are being farcical here saying intelligent players fall for this garbage. As someone who thinks casinos cheat, who are posting this for?

Either way, stay Hydrated my friend!
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October 9th, 2018 at 5:23:59 PM permalink
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Is this a post for losing Ploppies? I assume you are being farcical here saying intelligent players fall for this garbage. As someone who thinks casinos cheat, who are posting this for?

Either way, stay Hydrated my friend!



i think even the most intelligent people fall for most of the tricks casinos use. the people aware of the tricks can then have a fighting chance of not falling for them. you most likely have read many books or have been through this, but allowing someone to see a sumarized list might kill even the most obvious tricks that we dont know that weve fallen for.
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October 9th, 2018 at 5:26:41 PM permalink
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Dont drink the free alcohol

Bring a timepiece (I dont say watch because your cellphone is a timepiece these days)



I keep seeing this brought up here. How much negative effect do you think this has on a ploppy. Now, I consider myself an educated ploppy, because a recreation gambler none the less. I am not talking about getting Kavanaugh drunk (sorry, I couldn't help it), but just a good buzz on. I dont feel I am out of control in my choices, but maybe I am wrong.
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October 9th, 2018 at 6:10:46 PM permalink
The tip about only bringing in what you can afford to lose is your best tip. So many countless horror stories of people gambling money they NEEDED or worse, money that wasn't technically theirs to gamble,(A woman in the news was imprisoned for embezzling money from her job and then going to the Casino and losing it all) it's beyond sad. It's downright heartbreaking.
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October 9th, 2018 at 6:26:45 PM permalink
As far as I can tell, casinos don't use many cycleogical tricks at all. Based on everything I've read, the only cycleogical tricks casinos use is to keep the lights on and there are background noises. The only other cycleogical tricks I've ever heard of has been allowing customers to be hungry or thirsty if they didn't eat or drink before going. One example I read about was customers had gone so long without eating they had to buy food for themselves at the casino restaurants.

Overall, the casinos should be the ones worried about what cycleogical tricks I use on them.
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October 9th, 2018 at 6:29:20 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

The tip about only bringing in what you can afford to lose is your best tip. So many countless horror stories of people gambling money they NEEDED or worse, money that wasn't technically theirs to gamble,(A woman in the news was imprisoned for embezzling money from her job and then going to the Casino and losing it all) it's beyond sad. It's downright heartbreaking.



But if she would have won a jackpot it would have had a happy ending. You should print out a few extra money orders at work and play one of your winning lottery numbers with it. If you agree to pay Walgreens restitution back plus 10% you will be fine and you keep the extra.
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October 9th, 2018 at 6:46:46 PM permalink
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But if she would have won a jackpot it would have had a happy ending. You should print out a few extra money orders at work and play one of your winning lottery numbers with it. If you agree to pay Walgreens restitution back plus 10% you will be fine and you keep the extra.



I posted a link to a person who made youtube videos for a living and he won 20 thousand dollars scratching 10,000 tickets that he "spent" 30 thousand on

did that post refer to that one? i also dont necessarily think the casinos are cheating. its my intention to find out exactly how they have randomized the deck of cards mathematically. I know how the cards are mechanically shuffled so-to-say, but the "fairness" of the cards is not provided by the shuffler, but the algorithm within the shufflers memory that causes the randomness to occur.
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October 9th, 2018 at 6:50:41 PM permalink
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As far as I can tell, casinos don't use many cycleogical tricks at all. Based on everything I've read, the only cycleogical tricks casinos use is to keep the lights on and there are background noises. The only other cycleogical tricks I've ever heard of has been allowing customers to be hungry or thirsty if they didn't eat or drink before going. One example I read about was customers had gone so long without eating they had to buy food for themselves at the casino restaurants.

Overall, the casinos should be the ones worried about what cycleogical tricks I use on them.




https://
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/how-casinos-use-design-psychology-to-get-you-to-gamble-1667182023
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October 9th, 2018 at 7:04:06 PM permalink
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https://
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Interesting article. Based on what the authors claim, for those of us who want to get down as much action as possible, we shouldn't make any attempt to block these strategies the casinos use in any way. We should be embracing and appreciating that the casinos are on our side on this issue.
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October 9th, 2018 at 7:10:53 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I have been thinking of this idea for a while. and a response within another thread has made me decide to post this list.

The caisnos use psycological tricks, that our brains will never understand, simply because of the amount of tricks there are.

Im want to reverse or at least block out or just be able to identify a trick when it happens, so you can choose otherwise to reduce the casinos edge and improve yours.

Im going to limit the list of "psycological blocking tricks" to the physical senses

1. Wear sun glasses - Bright lights which might induce a want to gamble at a specific spot where you wouldnt have before. Wearing sunglasses wont necessarily stop you from gambling but might help in shading. This is the dumbest rule but im using it as an example

2. Wear ear plugs - the less noise you hear, the clearer your thoughts. without distractions, you are less likely to make a mistake. although you might look stupid wearing ear plugs in a casino oh well.

3. eat before you go / bring a water - dont let yourself spend money on food or drinks.

4. only bring X amount of dollars - dont allow yourself to spend more than you bring - although this is more of bankroll management and common sense

anyone else care to think of something that might not be on here?

If someone is worried about all that stuff and they need to take extra measures so not to fall into the casino's "trap". I think those are the type of people that should avoid casinos as much as possible.
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October 9th, 2018 at 7:20:18 PM permalink
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<snip>2. Wear ear plugs - the less noise you hear, the clearer your thoughts. without distractions, you are less likely to make a mistake. although you might look stupid wearing ear plugs in a casino oh well.<snip>



heatmap,

Just wear a pair of earbud-style headphones, and tuck the plug into your shirt pocket.

Hope this helps!

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October 9th, 2018 at 7:51:51 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

Interesting article. Based on what the authors claim, for those of us who want to get down as much action as possible, we shouldn't make any attempt to block these strategies the casinos use in any way. We should be embracing and appreciating that the casinos are on our side on this issue.



all they want is to get us to put our hands in our pockets and spend money, and i completely agree that if you want to have the best experience, these techinques in the article will allow you to FORGET and cut loose.
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October 9th, 2018 at 8:13:56 PM permalink
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I posted a link to a person who made youtube videos for a living and he won 20 thousand dollars scratching 10,000 tickets that he "spent" 30 thousand on

did that post refer to that one? i also dont necessarily think the casinos are cheating. its my intention to find out exactly how they have randomized the deck of cards mathematically. I know how the cards are mechanically shuffled so-to-say, but the "fairness" of the cards is not provided by the shuffler, but the algorithm within the shufflers memory that causes the randomness to occur.



Not a conspiracy guy here. I see white, I believe it’s white. I see things as they are, maybe to my detriment.

That said I owned a small convenience store chain years ago. Had multiple employees on 3rd shift who scratched off hundreds of dollars of lottery tickets planning to pay me back at 5AM when the machines came back up with their “winners”.

Guess the 50% HA was too much to overcome, along with paying the $100,000 winners that actually do occur. That said, I always offered to let them sign a statement admitting what they did with a promise to repay. It made a great piece of evidence for their prosecution. Yea, I’m that guy, never give a sucker an even break.

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October 9th, 2018 at 8:27:20 PM permalink
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all they want is to get us to put our hands in our pockets and spend money, and i completely agree that if you want to have the best experience, these techinques in the article will allow you to FORGET and cut loose.



For a lot of us, the best casino experience is earning money and that usually means taking out our own money and using it at their games. And the more money we put into play, the more we earn.
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October 9th, 2018 at 11:40:53 PM permalink
I would not be concerned about not spending money on food, if you're hungry, eat. If you are not in the best of shape because you're hungry or thirsty, he won't be able to do anything right at all no matter where you are.
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November 17th, 2018 at 6:22:24 PM permalink
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But if she would have won a jackpot it would have had a happy ending. You should print out a few extra money orders at work and play one of your winning lottery numbers with it. If you agree to pay Walgreens restitution back plus 10% you will be fine and you keep the extra.



In the back of my mind, I wonder if she had WON and brought back more than she had embezzled would she still have been imprisoned.
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November 18th, 2018 at 12:16:43 PM permalink
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i think even the most intelligent people fall for most of the tricks casinos use.



The majority of the intelligent people that I know do not gamble for entertainment.
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November 18th, 2018 at 12:28:53 PM permalink
Poker players used to use glasses, ear plugs, hoodies and sit there looking half dead, don't think it helped them, just showmanship.
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November 18th, 2018 at 12:38:46 PM permalink
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In the back of my mind, I wonder if she had WON and brought back more than she had embezzled would she still have been imprisoned.




She stole the money. Returning it might mitigate her sentence but doesn't excuse the theft. In some cases, I've read of companies getting an employee to confess in writing and then turn it over for prosecution.
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November 18th, 2018 at 5:38:05 PM permalink
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Is this a post for losing Ploppies? I assume you are being farcical here saying intelligent players fall for this garbage. As someone who thinks casinos cheat, who are posting this for?

Either way, stay Hydrated my friend!

Everyone here is always saying this, but being in bad health and poor physical or emotional shape can be disastrous in the casino. These things like hunger, dehydration, emotionally distractedness, I believe can temporarily lower your IQ a lot, which can turn any AP into a ploppy. We should stop this joke, because it is making fun of something that is actually a truth while pretending it is a myth. If we keep saying this, then we are not genuine people with any integrity. We cannot advocate being unhealthy in any way which affects mental acuity is meaningless. You have to be sharp, if you're not sharp, bad things can happen.
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November 18th, 2018 at 5:45:52 PM permalink
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She stole the money. Returning it might mitigate her sentence but doesn't excuse the theft. In some cases, I've read of companies getting an employee to confess in writing and then turn it over for prosecution.
Watch who you work for. Work for a soulless turd and it might happen to you.



I said if she WON more than she stole . Like say she stole $5,000 and won $50,000. Not just merely returning it. Returning it with a hefty return, erm, profit. ;)
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November 18th, 2018 at 6:12:02 PM permalink
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November 19th, 2018 at 11:22:34 AM permalink
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She stole the money. Returning it might mitigate her sentence but doesn't excuse the theft. In some cases, I've read of companies getting an employee to confess in writing and then turn it over for prosecution.
Watch who you work for. Work for a soulless turd and it might happen to you.



There was a poster on this very website that mentioned he owned a convenience store or something like that where he sold scratch off Lottery tickets. Some of his shady employees stole some scratch off tickets and honestly thought they would just pay him back when the tickets were winners. He had them sign a paper that they promised to give him back the money when the stolen tickets were winners or something like that. Lo and behold, he gave that paper to the court or something like that and that led to their prosecution. Genius on his part, stupid on their part. If they had any brains they would have known not to sign any documents as they inadvertently waived their right to not discriminate themselves(5th Amendment).
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November 19th, 2018 at 11:49:55 AM permalink
Giving yourself a gambling budget beats all of the casino's tricks.

They can try to "trick" me all they want, but if I have $0 left to spend on gambling, nothing is going to work.
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November 19th, 2018 at 11:57:50 AM permalink
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Giving yourself a gambling budget beats all of the casino's tricks.

They can try to "trick" me all they want, but if I have $0 left to spend on gambling, nothing is going to work.



Egads! You are right! You are 2018's Confusicious or whatever his name was! :D
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November 19th, 2018 at 12:55:39 PM permalink
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Giving yourself a gambling budget beats all of the casino's tricks.

They can try to "trick" me all they want, but if I have $0 left to spend on gambling, nothing is going to work.

Excellent advice. Just don't let them "trick" you into going to the ATM!

... not that that's ever happened to me more than like 10 or 12 times.
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November 19th, 2018 at 1:03:34 PM permalink
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Excellent advice. Just don't let them "trick" you into going to the ATM!

... not that that's ever happened to me more than like 10 or 12 times.



:) At the literally fine print. Just don't bring an ATM card with you.
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November 19th, 2018 at 3:15:34 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Giving yourself a gambling budget beats all of the casino's tricks.

They can try to "trick" me all they want, but if I have $0 left to spend on gambling, nothing is going to work.


Excellent advice. So if you don't want to be tricked, you can set your budget to 0.
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November 19th, 2018 at 11:03:45 PM permalink
I'm not sure how conscious it is or if it even works but I do think the casino environment is designed to constantly disrupt thoughts. It would be hard to have a serious think about anything in a casino. If you've ever tried to find a quiet place, it's amazing how the pumped in music will pick up as soon as you get away from the noise of the machines.

It's increasingly common elsewhere. Pumping gas used to be a time when even a busy person would stop and think for a couple minutes. Now somebody is shouting celebrity gossip at you from a tv built into the pump.
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November 20th, 2018 at 1:20:40 AM permalink
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I'm not sure how conscious it is or if it even works but I do think the casino environment is designed to constantly disrupt thoughts. It would be hard to have a serious think about anything in a casino. If you've ever tried to find a quiet place, it's amazing how the pumped in music will pick up as soon as you get away from the noise of the machines.

It's increasingly common elsewhere. Pumping gas used to be a time when even a busy person would stop and think for a couple minutes. Now somebody is shouting celebrity gossip at you from a tv built into the pump.



Some gas pumps you can press and hold the buttons on the side to mute those damn things. But yeah the noises are ridiculous at times. Also some bars are set in a circular way so you can clearly hear conversations from the other side of the circle more clearer than the person next to you. Its crazy
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November 20th, 2018 at 2:17:32 AM permalink
I believe the whole comp thing is a psychological trick
I acknowledge that some do get value out of comps
but for so many it's "just let me play some more to get these comps" and they lose sight of how much they're losing - it becomes less important
they somehow believe that they got a good deal even if they lost way more than the value of the comps
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