Nareed
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March 30th, 2012 at 8:05:43 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

And thanks for understanding what I'm saying about the stupid factor.



You're welcome.

I was thinking of expanding the sucker bet Law. How's this:

DJTeddyBear expansion: A good side bet promises a BIG payout and has a house edge as big as, well, as big as a house.
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MrV
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March 30th, 2012 at 8:17:22 AM permalink
It seems to me that making a fire bet is akin to being able to play Keno on a craps table.
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Tiltpoul
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March 30th, 2012 at 3:36:10 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

It seems to me that making a fire bet is akin to being able to play Keno on a craps table.



The thing is that when a Fire Bet hits, nearly everybody at the table (including those who don't play it) are happy (except for the Dark Siders, which is a lot of people on this forum). In Keno, it's hard to have a lot of group excitement; it's pretty much a solitary game. Craps is social and usually everybody is rooting for the same outcome.

I don't play the side bet; I'm pretty much a Pass Line/Odds, Come bets/odds guy. OCCASIONALLY, I place the 6-8 when it's really cold, and when it's hot, on come out rolls, I hop the 7s to protect all my come bets (what I like to call, a condom). Other than that, I'm a very boring bettor on craps. But I like to roll the dice, and for superstitious players, I'm what they like to see... consistent and able to avoid hitting chips and other obstacles (unless some idiot throws money or their hands or whatever). I'm not a dice setter, if they exist.

I've only seen the Fire Bet hit for 5 numbers.. and that I've only seen three times. Ironically, twice the player's last point to make was either 6 or 8 and they couldn't get it. The first time the guy rolled a lot of numbers too, so I did well. The second time, I barely broke even, as he was making points pretty quickly. The last time it hit, he was working a made point, but I did pretty well all the same. I think there were maybe three people playing the bet that time.

Come to think of it, I may have seen one person get 4 numbers.

Edit...BTW: Question for the math geeks. Horseshoe Southern Indiana allows you to make the bet AFTER the point has been established the first time. Does this change the odds (meaning it's better to bet it on 6-8 vs 4-10)?
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chyn3s3boi
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April 1st, 2012 at 10:08:18 PM permalink
hey guys, new to the forums, just wanted to share my story for the weekend. sorry if it bores you..i used to go to AC to play blackjack and slots. recently got into craps, i guess got tired of losing consistently playing blackjack and other crap. a few days here and there i would hit 2 points here and 2 points there, after doing some research, and some reading i would practice and test.

this weekend i went to caesars and i actually hit the 6 point fire bet with a 5 dollar bet on the fire bet. a few trips before i hit 4 numbers but i didn't play the bet.

i rolled a 6, 5, 8 9, 10 and the last number i hit was a 4. i probably hit a total of 10 points, not exactly sure how long i rolled for but it was pretty crazy.

my only bets were 25 bucks pass, 25 odds, and 25 on the 5 and 9. my rolls made me about 700 bucks but of course the main attraction was the fire bet hit. overall i had a great time and will continue to practice and hopefully can hit at least 2-3 points consistently i think the main thing is rest, your hands need to be steady and of course some luck. anyway, i just wanted to see the odds of actually hitting 6 numbers like this. have a good night everyone. excuses the capitalization because i typing on my bed so i am being kinda lazy. later.
AlanMendelson
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April 2nd, 2012 at 1:01:42 AM permalink
Coingratulations on the fire bet hit. I'm sure no one told you this, but first-time posters are required to tell us in advance when they are going to hit all six numbers. If they fail to tell us in advance they have to pay $100 to each forum member.

Now, another point: which table did you hit all six numbers on? The reason I ask is that one table in particular (there are 7 currently in use at Caesars, Las Vegas, if this is where you played) has had more 6-point fires than any other. It's only a coincidence, so don't make much of this. Just curious.

Also, regarding the fire bet going to other casinos: now that Shuffle Master owns it, I am sure it is going to be marketed to more companies. And I wouldn't be surprised to see it even at Indian casinos.
chyn3s3boi
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:18:17 AM permalink
LOL! Thanks sir! I actually played in the Caesars at Atlantic City. Maybe next time I'll get the table number if I hit again.
I was talking to this guy yesterday and I can tell he is a regular craps shooter, he kept calling it a monster roll. If I had pressed my bets, I would've made a lot more probably, then again I probably would have felt more pressure.

Either way, it was fun and I ended up winning all my money back from other games and a bit more.

Good luck guys, hope to learn from you guys in the future!
AcesAndEights
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April 2nd, 2012 at 5:07:53 PM permalink
I don't play the fire bet, but yesterday I hit it for 4 numbers at Planet Hollywood, and some people were playing it for $5 and $10, so at least they got some of their money back. The 5 and the 9 were left, and I was going for the 9 when I seven'd out.
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AlanMendelson
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April 2nd, 2012 at 11:57:43 PM permalink
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"Life's a bitch and then you die. Or seven out." -AlanMendelson



Being quoted like that was almost as good as getting a kidney transplant. Thank you.
DJTeddyBear
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April 3rd, 2012 at 6:37:34 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Now, another point: which table did you hit all six numbers on? The reason I ask is that one table in particular (there are 7 currently in use at Caesars, Las Vegas, if this is where you played) has had more 6-point fires than any other. It's only a coincidence, so don't make much of this. Just curious.

Any chance that Caesars generally keeps one specific table open 24/7, and that's the table in question? It would certainly explain it.
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AlanMendelson
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April 4th, 2012 at 6:55:57 AM permalink
Actually it's table #6 which is not one of the usual "24 hour tables." Table #6 is in the middle of the pit, on the far side of the main walkway to the front doors, and next to the 3 card poker and other games. its actually one of least used tables -- youll find it open when the casino is packed. And when I was there that weekend it was one of the two $10 tables.

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