focused83
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January 28th, 2012 at 7:23:46 AM permalink
I had a program coded for me about a year ago it was initially made for roulette to help me attempt to change the outcome of spin before it registered with the casino this ended up failing because the coder and I didn't consider alot of other factors anyhow I was using it again lastnight and realized that I could change and do alot of things that normally can't be done on a few online craps I do not play craps at all really I only play roulette After testing with my program this is what I can do With my program I don’t have to put any bets on the pass line or the dont pass line I can establish a point without any risk with the program and still get a point established and still bet. Example : I put 1 dollar on the pass line and 1 dollar on the don’t pass line at the start I use my software and take away both bets but the game still thinks I have bets on the table eventhough there is none on the table anymore the game spins and I’m able to get a point established and I can wait for a 6 or 8 point with no risk at all or any other point for that matter and bet anywhere else on the board except the pl and don’t pass line. Is there a strategy I can use if I can do that? I know you usually wouldn’t be able to but I am able to do this.

I can place bets on the table anywhere else except the PL and the Don’t Pass line after the game is in session and I can also change the amount of those bets an example of this I place 1 dollar on 4,5,6,8,9,10 I can change that to any amount anytime during play or anywhere else on the board this included the come and field sections and all over.

I can take away the money also when it expects me to bet an example is that I see that when a point is established and the white chip says on it won’t let me spin for free but wants me to bet but I can spin for free still with my program an example of this is I have now got lets say 8 as a point the roll button will not activate until there are bets on the table but I can with the program bypass this and still spin for free with no risk.

I hope that clarifies a bit more again I am sure I can do alot more with the program I just don’t know what to look for to try. I can I think fully change anything on the board during play.

I did look at some youtube videos which is why I thought since I could spin for free with no risk is to wait till I get a point like 6 or 8 since those number have the best dice combo to come out than I could bet the pass line with max pass line odds that a 6 or 8 will rolled? or since I dont have to place a bet until a point is established i would take max odds on 6 & 8 and max odds on DP for 4 & 10. I did try it and it worked several times just don’t know how good of a strategy that actually is.

Please anyone with more advice can you help even if its suggestions on things to check that the program will do. I may give the program I got coded for FREE or will definitely give money for help of a strategy that will help me monopolize on these factors that the game normally block me from doing etc.
teddys
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January 28th, 2012 at 8:07:59 AM permalink
Bet the max on the pass line, then take it off when the point is established. Then, bet the max on the don't pass. Don't bother with odds.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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January 28th, 2012 at 8:28:02 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

Bet the max on the pass line, then take it off when the point is established. Then, bet the max on the don't pass. Don't bother with odds.



thank you I will try this.
focused83
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January 28th, 2012 at 9:40:45 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

Bet the max on the pass line, then take it off when the point is established. Then, bet the max on the don't pass. Don't bother with odds.



ok so I tried this and eventhough I can take away the bets on the pass and no pass line after a point is established I can't put them back on I can still spin for free and wait till I get any point that I want and still place bets anywhere else on the board except the PL and DP. Does anyone know a strategy since I can get any point that I want and the optimum bet I can place that doesnt involve the pass and don't pass line? I am still waiting till I get 6 or 8 as a point and betting them to win and if its 4 I am betting it to lose before the 7 which does seem to work quite well. I do wait for 3 7's in a row than bet the numbers also.

Anymore advice?
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January 28th, 2012 at 10:50:00 AM permalink
Place bets won't help you. The odds on those are the same no matter what: 6:5, and you will always get 7:6.

If you can't put on but can only take away, just make max pass line bets and take them away when the point is established. Do not make any more bets. Wait for the point to be made or the seven out. Then make another max pass line bet. With patience you will have the advantage in the long run.
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January 28th, 2012 at 10:53:48 AM permalink
Taking the pass line bet away and it's really 'no bet anymore' after a point is set; that should be a bonanza. If it isnt, then you aren't able to do what you think you can but are doing something else instead.

If it actually works, my advice is don't expect to get a big payout. They will hold it up and investigate. I would have some problems with the ethics of it myself if I had to write some code and run a program, that even sounds like possible jail time ... but what do I know?
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January 28th, 2012 at 11:01:43 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Taking the pass line bet away and it's really 'no bet anymore' after a point is set; that should be a bonanza. If it isnt, then you aren't able to do what you think you can but are doing something else instead.

If it actually works, my advice is don't expect to get a big payout. They will hold it up and investigate. I would have some problems with the ethics of it myself if I had to write some code and run a program, that even sounds like possible jail time ... but what do I know?



As soon as I was about to write here for some advice about winnings. I can now 100 percent always make the dice spin a 2 ALWAYS. I made 60 euro now at the moment. Can someone give me advice on how to cashout. would it be wise to just cashout 20 euro to see if I even get it?

I was thinking to maybe play other games to make the history look more realistic if they do even check it like play some of my winnings in blackjack and roulette?

I'm pretty sure this can be done at many other casino's now I will test it. Thanks for all those who gave me advice if I get my cashout I will pay those who gave me advice in this thread today.

Thanks you very much
focused83
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January 28th, 2012 at 11:02:48 AM permalink
sorry double post
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January 30th, 2012 at 2:54:33 AM permalink
Wow this thread is sketchy. What kind of shoddy online casino allows their game outcomes to be modified by outside code? And if you're working with someone on the inside, I expect you will be caught and punished.
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January 30th, 2012 at 3:10:56 AM permalink
my current opinion is that the OP was phishing for a mark. He is going to share his winnings, you see. Who the hell does that for the sake of some cheap advice? I think our boy has some 'splaning to do.
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January 30th, 2012 at 11:58:54 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

my current opinion is that the OP was phishing for a mark. He is going to share his winnings, you see. Who the hell does that for the sake of some cheap advice? I think our boy has some 'splaning to do.



Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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February 3rd, 2012 at 6:01:37 PM permalink
Please everyone I did NOT ask for money on here and I HAVE payed people from other forums who helped me I have nothing to prove but here is the video I made of the exploit I use. IF ANYONE EVER EVER ON HERE GETS A PM FROM ME ASKING FOR MONEY SEES A POST ASKING FOR MONEY PLEASE REPORT ME I WILL NEVER DO THAT. Thanks to all who helped especially on a next forum. I am looking for more casinos to do the exploit on also and I have been paid twice so far already

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February 3rd, 2012 at 6:56:17 PM permalink
I'm not exactly sure what's up but if you can forecast or affect results through the bets
(a) it's probably illegal to do it more than once (i.e. profit from a software malfunction once you consciously know about it)
(b) the casino should be struck off for not testing it's software and allowing a bet, or other external factors, to affect the result [the results are supposed to be random and indeterminable before the event]
(c) (if it applies) the regulator's tester (in the UK someone independent has to test it) would have to answer some serious questions.

Obviously if you stumble across a game where the pay table is wrong (i.e. over 100%) then that's a different argument since the casino can also see the same, this might apply to lotteries, jackpot games, or video poker. However if it's an error, say Blackjacks are being paid 2-1, then I think there comes a point where you shouldn't play any more. If it's an obvious software error, then the same argument applies. If it's something you're helped create, then I think that's a no no.

A few years ago you may have read that Hoover were offering two free air tickets to Europe for spending £100 (less than the cost of the tickets) on vacuum cleaners. Now profiting from that seems legal as the company were being stupid!!
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February 3rd, 2012 at 7:05:52 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

I'm not exactly sure what's up but if you can forecast or affect results through the bets
(a) it's probably illegal to do it more than once (i.e. profit from a software malfunction once you consciously know about it)
(b) the casino should be struck off for not testing it's software and allowing a bet, or other external factors, to affect the result [the results are supposed to be random and indeterminable before the event]
(c) (if it applies) the regulator's tester (in the UK someone independent has to test it) would have to answer some serious questions.

Obviously if you stumble across a game where the pay table is wrong (i.e. over 100%) then that's a different argument since the casino can also see the same, this might apply to lotteries, jackpot games, or video poker. However if it's an error, say Blackjacks are being paid 2-1, then I think there comes a point where you shouldn't play any more. If it's an obvious software error, then the same argument applies. If it's something you're helped create, then I think that's a no no.

A few years ago you may have read that Hoover were offering two free air tickets to Europe for spending £100 (less than the cost of the tickets) on vacuum cleaners. Now profiting from that seems legal as the company were being stupid!!



Well you are correct it is 100 percent a error and I think its not caught and I'm paid because when the casino goes and looks at my bets all that it looks like is a repeat of a number but that number always applies to where I bet so if I roll a two it looks like I rolled two twos etc. For now I am taking and smartly advantage of it. Like all things I'm sure it will get patched but it seems to be a common flaw though especially in playtech craps. I'm not too concerned getting in trouble because the only way I think I would get caught is if the casino is taking snapshots of my actual screen but this I have a certain way I check also but thats my only real concern.
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:16:20 PM permalink
Wow, it's like printing money! Please let us know how long this gravy train keeps on a'truckin'. If this is real then I'm seriously disappointed in my fellow software developers.
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February 4th, 2012 at 3:38:08 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Wow, it's like printing money! Please let us know how long this gravy train keeps on a'truckin'. If this is real then I'm seriously disappointed in my fellow software developers.



Thanks to all and NO I DO NOT WANT MONEY FROM THIS I WILL NEVER ASK FOR MONEY (there is no point) just sharing my success and this works not just on one but a few . There are sites that work on dissemblers i can only get wins on two aspects with my program i'm sure someone can do way more

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