and i will say one more time that you need do no math at all - it is an ironclad rule that combining bets with negative expectation cannot result in overall positive expectation. Give it up.

Quote:homanyI just came up with this idea. Most probably it is not a good strategy but i cannot find the flaw. So far, it seems like a good plan. Please prove me wrong.

Let's say we wanna have a 8$ don't pass bet to protect our bets playing iron crapper or iron cross strategy. To overcome the pitfall of come out roll, i have this arrangement in mind for the come out roll: beside 8$ on dc, laying 32$ on 10, betting 5$ on hard 10 and betting 2$ on 6+4 in sic bo. If 7 rolls we break even, if hard 10 rolls we earn 1$ plus a free point. I don't consider 11 and the extra 2$ loss by rolling it because in the long term 2 and 3 will cancel it out. If any other number rolls we take down lay and hard ways bet resulting 2$ loss which can be easily made up by the next 2 rolls. The only bummer is rolling easy 10 in come out roll which has 1/18 odds or 5.5%. In this case we lose 32$ but we win 12$ resulting a 20$ loss plus a point. All of my assumptions are based on that easy 10 not being hit in sic bo at come out roll in craps. It might hit with any point (exept 4) or even 11 or 2/3 of 7's which means an extra 12$ win. Please enlighten me on this.

PS: we might leave the DC bet after the come out roll waiting for 7 out. Specially when 6 or 8 are not the points.

I am no expert.

It seems to me you might consider a combination of DC on craps along with Big on sic bo and/or any double on 6. With Big, the HE is a relatively low 2.72% and it would cover both 11 and 12 with any other number except trips, since DC is bar 12, at 1:1. With Double 6, it probably depends what paytable, but again you have the 12 covered, and 16 ways to win. There are 8:1, 10:1, and 11:1 odds according to WoO, in live play, though it sounds like you're playing online, so could be anything.

Not sure what proportions you might bet these. But the odds have to help with the 12 when it comes. Then you just have to avoid the 7 on the come-out, and 1/2 of the 7's would pay on the Big anyway (3rd die of 4-5-6).

I've played it online and in home games with friends and I thought it was a pretty fun game.

Horseshoe Hammond has a SB table. It was never open though the last time I was there.