Ayecarumba
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January 18th, 2018 at 10:21:57 AM permalink
The special collections area of UNLV's Library has digitized many (but not all) of their photos. Here's an image from the Las Vegas Club circa 1930's:



Note that I have also come across images from the first decade of the 20th century as well as mid-century showing smooth walled craps tubs, so designs varied (early tubs only had one dealer).

By the 70's I'm pretty sure the design was standardized. Here's an image from the UNLV Library of the interior of the Stardust in the first half the 1970's that shows the modern tub with pyramids:

My guess is that the tub design actually standardized in the late 50's when the "modern" game became the standard, but I don't have any documentation. I'll bet the Paulson Company archives (if they exist) would be an interesting topic to research regarding the development of craps tables and equipment.

ADDENDUM: Here's an image of the interior of the Flamingo from the second half of the 40's that shows craps tables with pyramids in use at the first "modern" casino resort.

This image is also from the digital collection at UNLV.
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January 18th, 2018 at 11:07:30 AM permalink
The UNLV collection is a great resource (not to mention a great time-waster when you don't feel like working). All sorts of good stuff like this photo of a craps game in a swimming pool circa 1954. Guess I misunderstood the meaning of "floating craps game" :)
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January 18th, 2018 at 12:40:21 PM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

The UNLV collection is a great resource (not to mention a great time-waster when you don't feel like working). All sorts of good stuff like this photo of a craps game in a swimming pool circa 1954. Guess I misunderstood the meaning of "floating craps game" :)



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January 18th, 2018 at 1:10:35 PM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

The UNLV collection is a great resource (not to mention a great time-waster when you don't feel like working). All sorts of good stuff like this photo of a craps game in a swimming pool circa 1954. Guess I misunderstood the meaning of "floating craps game" :)



Off topic but Cosmo has some great historical photos along with a short video loop in the hallways of the 2nd floor. Worth checking out if there and you have a few minutes.
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January 18th, 2018 at 2:42:53 PM permalink
I thought craps gained it popularity during World War II, played among soldiers. However, its roots come from the very similar game of Hazard, which dates back hundreds of years in England.
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January 18th, 2018 at 2:49:19 PM permalink
Great archives find, Aye! Interesting that the Ritz Bros movie still is smooth walled, and yet that 30's pic and the 40's pic both have the pyramids.
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January 18th, 2018 at 3:12:47 PM permalink
Google has many images of craps history. It has enough to adequately answer questions regarding equipment and eras.
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January 18th, 2018 at 4:00:16 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I was under the impression that the casinos introduced the pyramids on a craps table within the last 20 years or so. I'd be fairly confident the pyramids weren't around in 1906.



I have been in the business for 33 years. The pyramids (we call it the alligator) were there before I started dealing.
TumblingBones
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January 19th, 2018 at 10:33:29 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I thought craps gained it popularity during World War II, played among soldiers. However, its roots come from the very similar game of Hazard, which dates back hundreds of years in England.


That certainly seems to be the source of many of the rules of the modern game but as far as I can tell, the oldest forms of gambling known to man are dice-based. Wikipedia mentions dice games dating back to 3000 BC. My user image for this forum is of a Roman-era die that looks identical in design to the ones used today:
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January 19th, 2018 at 11:12:25 AM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

My user image for this forum is of a Roman-era die that looks identical in design to the ones used today:

Identical, perhaps, except for the specific arrangement of the numbered faces and the orientation of the pips on each face. It is very unlikely that you can find in play in a legitimate U.S. casino a die that you can orient like the one in your image: with the 3 on top and the 2 to the right of the 6. And any die you find in a legitimate casino should have the two rows of pips for the 6 pointing toward the 3 and 4 faces, not toward the 2.

Yes, minor items from a historic perspective, but they might help you recognize some bogus modern dice.

BTW, I have two items I received as gifts, a brass paperweight and a small storage box, both of which are designed to look a bit like dice. The paperweight has the same error in the direction of the pip rows for the 6, and the box doesn't even have opposite faces totalling seven.

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