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guitarmandp
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May 31st, 2015 at 3:19:48 PM permalink
I am not disciplined enough to be a don't player. Last night i had $15 on the dont's, and I laid $300. Point was 8. This guy rolled for it had to have been a half hour. He had to have rolled 10 9's, and 6 10's and 6 4's! I finally chickened out and removed my $300 lay and he immediately 7'd out. My irrational thinking was "If this guy is rolling all of those difficult outside numbers, he's got to make the 8!" I was wrong!
RS
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May 31st, 2015 at 3:32:10 PM permalink
You were wrong, but not because he 7'd out.
Ibeatyouraces
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May 31st, 2015 at 3:34:41 PM permalink
I would've bought the bet off of you as an advantage play. Oh...wait...advantage play is a "myth". *snickers*
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May 31st, 2015 at 3:38:03 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I would've bought the bet off of you as an advantage play. Oh...wait...advantage play is a "myth". *snickers*



Wait what! I've been lied to MY WHOLE LIFE??????

Err...not whole life...just like the last 3 or 4 years.
champ724
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May 31st, 2015 at 4:30:48 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I would've bought the bet off of you as an advantage play. Oh...wait...advantage play is a "myth". *snickers*


what bet would you have bought??
Ibeatyouraces
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May 31st, 2015 at 4:38:11 PM permalink
Quote: champ724

what bet would you have bought??


The don't pass bet after the point is established.
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champ724
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May 31st, 2015 at 4:47:43 PM permalink
guitar didnt pick up his dont pass bet
Ibeatyouraces
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May 31st, 2015 at 4:52:48 PM permalink
Quote: champ724

guitar didnt pick up his dont pass bet


Do'h!! You are correct. Time for Lasik surgery 8-)
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guitarmandp
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May 31st, 2015 at 5:00:23 PM permalink
Just to clarify. The $15 flat bet stayed on. I picked up the $300 lay that was next to my bet
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May 31st, 2015 at 6:32:05 PM permalink
Quote: guitarmandp

Just to clarify. The $15 flat bet stayed on. I picked up the $300 lay that was next to my bet

Next time just pick up any $300 that's next to you're bet it's the only way you'll have a chance.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
HornHighYo11
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May 31st, 2015 at 7:21:48 PM permalink
Ibeatyouraces...
Would you buy his don't pass odds after he picked them up in that situation even after such a long session without resolution? (I get the AP play right after the point is established)
Just curious.
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May 31st, 2015 at 7:29:25 PM permalink
I think you made a good decision.... What we do is based on the best information we have at the time. at
that time the guy was on a good roll and it did not make a lot of sense to bet $300 he would not make an 8.

Now he made a seven and all you made was $15.... beat the hell out of losing $300

I would have made that decision long before you did....


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Ibeatyouraces
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May 31st, 2015 at 7:38:02 PM permalink
Quote: HornHighYo11

Ibeatyouraces...
Would you buy his don't pass odds after he picked them up in that situation even after such a long session without resolution? (I get the AP play right after the point is established)
Just curious.


If I knew before hand that he would pick it up, I would give him an amount equal to the bet. If it wins, I get the bet and the winnings. If it loses, I only lose what I paid the player. So yes I would. Past results are meaningless.
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May 31st, 2015 at 8:04:21 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

If I knew before hand that he would pick it up, I would give him an amount equal to the bet. If it wins, I get the bet and the winnings. If it loses, I only lose what I paid the player. So yes I would. Past results are meaningless.


idk if they get your just buying the bet to place the point
Ibeatyouraces
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May 31st, 2015 at 8:18:40 PM permalink
Quote: champ724

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

If I knew before hand that he would pick it up, I would give him an amount equal to the bet. If it wins, I get the bet and the winnings. If it loses, I only lose what I paid the player. So yes I would. Past results are meaningless.


idk if they get your just buying the bet to place the point


I'm not placing anything. I'm just taking over someone's don't pass bet they want to pick up.
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champ724
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May 31st, 2015 at 8:25:56 PM permalink
ohh yea i seen guys pick up 5's or 9's for 50 and 100 and i am like man just givin money away lol
guitarmandp
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May 31st, 2015 at 10:14:26 PM permalink
I've seen guys have a $100 flat bet on the don't pass against the 10 and then take it down!

I know a guy that bets $30 on the donts and then has an $18 6 and an $18 8. He takes his $30 dont bet down after he breaks even for the roll. I'm endorsing this strategy.

A lay bet I'd a bet with 0 house advantage but also 0 player advantage, so the only bet that your hurting yourself to pull is the flat bet after the point has been establised
champ724
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May 31st, 2015 at 10:38:10 PM permalink
i assume the number is not the 6 or 8 so why doesn';t he just place the other number for 30 and either win 12 or 29
guitarmandp
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June 1st, 2015 at 4:20:38 PM permalink
Quote: champ724

i assume the number is not the 6 or 8 so why doesn';t he just place the other number for 30 and either win 12 or 29



I've tried telling him that but I've given up. Some people have there own "system" that they are comfortable with and they will never change
drjohnny
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June 2nd, 2015 at 5:58:55 AM permalink
Quote: guitarmandp

I am not disciplined enough to be a don't player.


I have the same problem. Last night I bet against a shooter because the entire table was going cold and he kept rolling and rolling until he finally made his point. After losing my don't bet with odds, I decided to bet across. I'm glad I switched it up because he rolled at least 30 more numbers.
Mikey75
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June 2nd, 2015 at 7:03:00 AM permalink
As a don't player I can't tell you the times the dealers have looked at me like I am crazy when I tell them I want my don't come bet moved to the 6 or 8. I've had several dealers not even ask me what I wanted to do and left my don't come bet when a 6 or 8 was rolled, instead of moving it to the 6 or 8. I'll take the advantage anytime I can get it, even if it is small.
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