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eclectic
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March 8th, 2016 at 5:32:55 AM permalink
Thomas Carlyle

“Every man is my superior in that I may learn from him".

OD, I try and learn from everyone, even if that accentuates the negative, as your comment would suggest. For example, in reading his book, I learned about the ricochet strategy. .
odiousgambit
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March 8th, 2016 at 6:05:18 AM permalink
Quote: eclectic

Thomas Carlyle

“Every man is my superior in that I may learn from him".

OD, I try and learn from everyone, even if that accentuates the negative, as your comment would suggest. For example, in reading his book, I learned about the ricochet strategy. .



But be careful what you learn from that man. In the world of gambling, the thing to learn is that it is one man out to get the best of the other*. Sometimes that comes down to selling him a worthless book.

*This is not a bad thing necessarily. We enjoy participating in sports when the other team tries hard to beat us, that's 100% desirable. But a gambler needs to know what team he is on. The house is not on your team. Other people you meet who want to bet are not on your team; they may or may not be neutral entities even if no bet is proposed. There is a big Hustle going on out there in the world, don't be a Mark
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
rushdl
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March 8th, 2016 at 6:32:31 AM permalink
The maths do not play out, just psychic betting. Oh well thanks for the forward looking statements!
valoem
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March 8th, 2016 at 10:43:05 AM permalink
Are World/Whirl bets required to be bet in multiples of 5 in Vegas? Can you bet in multiples of 6?
DeMango
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March 8th, 2016 at 6:29:07 PM permalink
A world is 5 separate bets. You can make one of those 5 separate bets $2

Have you looked up the answers yet in the Wizard of Odds website?
valoem
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March 8th, 2016 at 6:35:45 PM permalink
Gotcha some of the website does not answer that exact question.
odiousgambit
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March 9th, 2016 at 3:50:55 AM permalink
I couldn't get anyone to do it when a thread went around on how to do WoO website better, but they need links to some of their old stuff

One thing to do is to go to the game you are interested in and add "basics" in the location field after the last slash, like

http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/ this link is handy

add 'basics' and get:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/basics

now you have the old page with a lot of good stuff

[or somebody tell me where that link is]
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
100xOdds
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November 6th, 2017 at 8:49:55 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I couldn't get anyone to do it when a thread went around on how to do WoO website better, but they need links to some of their old stuff

http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/basics

now you have the old page with a lot of good stuff

thx!
yes, I agree WoO's craps page needed cleaning up the last time I looked, which was probably last year.
(been playing VP since then.)
your link simplifies everything.

hm.. always thought there wasn't much of a difference between pass and don't pass.
at 3/4/5x odds, pass is .37% HE while don't pass is .28%.
almost .1% difference.
before playing VP, I would have said close enough.

but in playing VP, I learned .1% is pretty important.

This proves via math why Dark is better, whereas the reason I stated in my OP was just feeling that Dark is better.
ie: After a long roll, seeing all that $ on the table going to the House when the 7 shows.
It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
it's like the House gets a rebate on my wins,

thus in reality, the actual Pass/Come HE is much much much higher than .37% because of that rebate???
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Nov 6, 2017
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
FleaStiff
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November 6th, 2017 at 9:25:49 AM permalink
I'm told the house edge drops to 0.06 percent if you are at 100x but, fortunately for the casinos, few bet at that level consistently. Otherwise that famed light bill would never get paid. And what is worse, they would not be able to ply you with free booze served by half-naked Tray Lizards.

Yes, the 'Dark Side' is always better than the Right Way player but I don't think that .37 percent should really be a deciding factor.
100xOdds
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November 6th, 2017 at 1:59:40 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Yes, the 'Dark Side' is always better than the Right Way player but I don't think that .37 percent should really be a deciding factor.

then why do you think Dark is better if not the math?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)

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