dicesitter
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January 6th, 2014 at 12:37:00 PM permalink
dwm

i am a tad confused, you play across and then raise the numbers on the third. but
only the 6 & 8.

So i hit a 10, 4,10,4,10,4, and no 6 & 8 your going to press the 6 & 8 ??????

good luck with that.

dicesetter
100xOdds

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January 6th, 2014 at 4:37:19 PM permalink
Quote: dwm

As active players know, it is very difficult to win with across betting, but this seems to give me a decent chance with the big target of across betting.

The latest several day trips, have had good results with the following: \$5 pass \$10 odds and \$52,\$54 across to start the new shooter. The first pass-point must be made before any pressing.
If he makes the first point, then \$20 odds on all furthur points, and full press each box number to \$20,24 as each is rolled after the first point is made. Then same bets for remainder of hand. Using a 20 shooter bankroll which has been plenty thusfar, lucky with positive variance thusfar.

I do something silimiar:

\$10 pass/continuous come with max odds (3/4/5x)
\$44 on even #'s: \$12 Place on 6 + 8 (1.5% HE), \$10 Buy on 4 + 10 (1.7% HE)
Bankroll = \$1500

I cant make myself do the 5 + 9 because of the 2% House Edge
Edit: Buy 5/9 = 2% HE
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AxiomOfChoice
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January 6th, 2014 at 4:39:28 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

I cant make myself do the 5 + 9 because of the 2% House Edge

4%
100xOdds

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January 6th, 2014 at 4:42:20 PM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

dwm

i am a tad confused, you play across and then raise the numbers on the third. but
only the 6 & 8.

So i hit a 10, 4,10,4,10,4, and no 6 & 8 your going to press the 6 & 8 ??????

good luck with that.
dicesetter

I do something somewhat similar.

after I make back the \$ I have on the table, I press the 6/8 via Place bets if the inside #s hit (5,6,8,9).

I only press the 5/9 when I maxxed out the table's \$500 Place limit.
Reason: 2% HE (see my post above)

and obviously, press the 4/10 when a 4 or 10 hits :)
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AxiomOfChoice
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January 6th, 2014 at 4:43:37 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

4%

Or, wait, do they let you buy it and pay 5% on wins only? That would be 2%.

I've never played in a place that let you do that.
AxiomOfChoice
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January 6th, 2014 at 6:46:33 PM permalink
Quote: bdc42

everyone on this site knows that all house games are just that, house games

"Money management game"
dicesitter
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January 6th, 2014 at 6:59:29 PM permalink
100xodds

This question seems a tad self explanatory, however why in the
hell would i press a number i am not hitting.

The house advantage applies only to the difference between what the casino
pays you and full odds, if you press an 8 your not hitting the
casino take is 100%.

I gotta be missing something..... if you bet across that implies the house advantage is at
work on the 4,5,9,10 after you make your across bet. You dont mind that house advantage
on those rolls, but you want to worry about it after your hitting them.

No wonder 95% of craps players lose.

dicesetter
100xOdds

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January 7th, 2014 at 6:56:37 PM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

100xodds

This question seems a tad self explanatory, however why in the
hell would i press a number i am not hitting.

The house advantage applies only to the difference between what the casino
pays you and full odds, if you press an 8 your not hitting the
casino take is 100%.

I gotta be missing something..... if you bet across that implies the house advantage is at
work on the 4,5,9,10 after you make your across bet. You dont mind that house advantage
on those rolls, but you want to worry about it after your hitting them.

No wonder 95% of craps players lose.

dicesetter

so what if i'm pressing 6/8 when the 5/9 hits and the 6/8 it hasn't hit yet?
6/8 has the lowest HE among Place/buy bets.
wizards motto: good wager...

gamblers fallacy: Hot #s
dice have no memory
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AlanMendelson
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January 8th, 2014 at 2:51:59 PM permalink
when I press, I press from the inside moving out... and I am guilty of this even if I am throwing outside numbers. I figure that eventually the "math" will catch up and I will start hitting the inside numbers.

Oh heck... it doesnt matter.... just bet the pass line with the minimum and max on the fire bet and hope lightning strikes.
100xOdds

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January 8th, 2014 at 3:32:02 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

when I press, I press from the inside moving out... and I am guilty of this even if I am throwing outside numbers. I figure that eventually the "math" will catch up and I will start hitting the inside numbers.

Oh heck... it doesnt matter.... just bet the pass line with the minimum and max on the fire bet and hope lightning strikes.

yeah, I want to try this but all the nearest casinios near me don't have firebet :(
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)