stoneynv
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February 14th, 2013 at 6:59:11 AM permalink
How did play craps.? Read somewhere he played pass line with full odds and worked through the come line for numbers? Sessions short to limit exposure to house?
MrV
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February 14th, 2013 at 8:26:33 AM permalink
see: Karas
"What, me worry?"
stoneynv
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February 14th, 2013 at 9:07:56 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

see: Karas

good stuff, money meant absolutely nothing to him....which I believe was the secret to his wins and ultimately his undoing. Thanks for link
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February 14th, 2013 at 9:19:30 AM permalink
Oh, I don't know if I would agree that his eventual loss should be described as his "undoing."

Given his existential attitude toward gambling, that is.
"What, me worry?"
stoneynv
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February 14th, 2013 at 9:32:05 AM permalink
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Oh, I don't know if I would agree that his eventual loss should be described as his "undoing."

Given his existential attitude toward gambling, that is.

your right, money meant nothing......nothing changed. It could be agrued that he was happier after he got the 30 million dollar albatros off his shoulders.
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February 14th, 2013 at 9:50:16 AM permalink
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That is a fascinating story.

"The biggest mistake I made was not pressing Jack to give me odds when I bet $300,000 per bet.... I could have gotten better odds, at least single odds with $300,000 flat bet and $300,000 odds. In my mind there was no bigger mistake I made than this one!"
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:00:43 PM permalink
How can he possibly win so much shooting dice? Edit: And so often..
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:10:40 PM permalink
When you have millions, big bets are no pressure. Trying play $10 8 ball in a strange bar with only $3 in your pocket. That is
real pressure !
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:15:52 PM permalink
Quote: Fuengirola2

How can he possibly win so much shooting dice? Edit: And so often..

His feat would be equivalent to the ten dollar bettor running his ten bucks up to three hundred dollars. Just add four zeros and your living large.
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:17:28 PM permalink
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When you have millions, big bets are no pressure. Trying play $10 8 ball in a strange bar with only $3 in your pocket. That is
real pressure !

The old Lee Trevino line....pressure is when your playing for 5.00 a hole with 3.00 in pocket.
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:28:24 PM permalink
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The old Lee Trevino line....pressure is when your playing for 5.00 a hole with 3.00 in pocket.



I should sue him for copyright infringement. 1962, Padre Island, bar full of rednecks LOL

I did admire when Dr Pepper starting using his story about Lee hustling on a par 3 golf course. He played with a Dr Pepper bottle as his golf club. When they balked at paying him anything, he threatened to change his story to a Coke bottle LOL They paid up !
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:50:23 PM permalink
My latest "streak" started on Christmas Eve 2012 with 15€, which I turned into 10 000€ playing Blackjack, Roulette and slots, online. :) Only to lose it back! Takes a lot longer time to make money, than give it away!
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February 14th, 2013 at 2:58:06 PM permalink
I was surprised, reading that column series, that Archie was ever even thinking of to pull up and take the money with him. He listed it as a mistake not to pull up when he had a mountain of money. I guess that probably would not have been an option, no matter how strong mind or anything one had.

Btw, if you were a billionaire, you could never feel the excitement and other strong feelings when winning or losing, because you had so much money, no matter if you win or lose. Feels good to be non-billionaire! With a thousand of millions in your bank account, you could never leave for Vegas with only 50 bucks in your pocket, only to turn it into millions!
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February 14th, 2013 at 3:08:19 PM permalink
Quote: Fuengirola2

I was surprised, reading that column series, that Archie was ever even thinking of to pull up and take the money with him. He listed it as a mistake not to pull up when he had a mountain of money. I guess that probably would not have been an option, no matter how strong mind or anything one had.

Btw, if you were a billionaire, you could never feel the excitement and other strong feelings when winning or losing, because you had so much money, no matter if you win or lose. Feels good to be non-billionaire! With a thousand of millions in your bank account, you could never leave for Vegas with only 50 bucks in your pocket, only to turn it into millions!



I agree... sometimes I worry that if I won the mega-millions, my entire gambling hobby would be moot.

But Phil Ivey is worth $100 million and is still addicted to craps and baccarat.

And even if you become a billionaire, you can still gamble with casinos -- by building them or buying them.
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February 14th, 2013 at 6:32:37 PM permalink
What a great article!

I wish I could have been around "old" Vegas...those had to be some of the best times.
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February 14th, 2013 at 6:39:16 PM permalink
40 millions back in '95 is about 60 millions now. Source: http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
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February 14th, 2013 at 6:41:15 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

I should sue him for copyright infringement. 1962, Padre Island, bar full of rednecks LOL

I did admire when Dr Pepper starting using his story about Lee hustling on a par 3 golf course. He played with a Dr Pepper bottle as his golf club. When they balked at paying him anything, he threatened to change his story to a Coke bottle LOL They paid up !

they don't make them like Lee anymore. The guy was a tremendous shot maker. Had this little cut shot that just fell softly to the right. Top five tee to green players of all time. Couldn't play Augusta. Shot shape too low. He was talking during his backswing at St. Andrews, 72nd hole in contention. Classic.
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February 14th, 2013 at 6:48:12 PM permalink
he likes to buy the 4 and T.
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February 14th, 2013 at 7:32:58 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Full series:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2008/02/sextons-corner-31-archie-karas-part-1.htm
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2008/02/sextons-corner-32-archie-karas-part-2.htm
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-33-archie-karas-part-3.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-34-archie-karas-part-4-more-poker.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-35-archie-karas-part-5-transporting-millions.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-36-archie-karas-part-6-shooting-dice.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-37-archie-karas-part-7-—-the-downslide.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-38-archie-karas-part-8-–-mini-streaks.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-39-archie-karas-part-9-–-according-to-jack.html
http://thrombosite.com/sextons-corner-vol-40-archie-karas-part-10-the-comeback.html

good stuff, the piece about how he moved money around was fascinating
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February 16th, 2013 at 3:27:15 AM permalink
Read part of the first article and realized
this is not MONGO from Blazing Saddles,
that is Alex Karrras ( with 2 r's ) !
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
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February 16th, 2013 at 10:20:54 PM permalink
And he lost it all back!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
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February 16th, 2013 at 10:41:28 PM permalink
Quote: superrick

And he lost it all back!



It always happens so fast..
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