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KevinAA
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January 12th, 2019 at 11:43:10 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Can you please tell every casino to try and backroom me? Thanks.



This was a nice thread until you came along and ruined it with your worthless ranting.
Keyser
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January 12th, 2019 at 11:51:01 AM permalink
ZenKinG

Is there any chance that you were perhaps banned just because you were maybe being a hot head?
FCBLComish
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January 12th, 2019 at 4:45:12 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Patently False.

If the federal govt wants to intervene they will rip your tribe to shreds. Its not the indians who choose, it's the other way around, it's the fed who chooses not to intervene in those particular offenses. Marijuana etc are not something the fed really cares to regulate and leaves it up to the states. Once again, nice try to misconstrue information amd confuse everyone.




Actually ZEN, this is all whatever is negotiated in the Nation/State Compact. Lots of tribes will be in the marijuana and casino businesses very shortly.

My last tribe did not follow Federal FMLA rules. They had their own system. They also did not follow a few other federal laws including not allowing guide dogs in the restaurants.

This time I am sure you are incorrect.
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AcesAndEights
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January 14th, 2019 at 10:40:51 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

ZenKinG

Is there any chance that you were perhaps banned just because you were maybe being a hot head?


THIS is the burning question of 2019. Thank you, Keyser, for FINALLY having the cojones to ask it!!!1!111!1
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Boz
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January 14th, 2019 at 10:50:56 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Minty, play as aggressive as you want and just realize you will never go to prison for counting cards. Feel free to return after a trespass, ive done it already lol. They will just re trespass you again. Why didnt they just call the cops and detain me? Even if they illegally detain you and have the cops arrest you, sue each and every one of them in their private capacity under Title 18 Section 241 once the smoke clears. The trespassing violation will also just be thrown out in court each time once you seek discovery. The government cannot put you in prison because a legal criminal trespass never occurred in the first place. Wake up and smell the statutes and dont let fear mongering and bluffs control you in this sad society we live in.

Vegas and all these casinos in this country are relying on one of the biggest bluffs to keep their tables AP free. Sure they can back you off, but restricting you from entering the premises, good one. Maybe in China that would work.



So do you just walk right back in after being trespassed? How long do you wait?

If you really want this battle as you state, wouldn’t you just walk right back in, again and again until the police are called?
terapined
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January 14th, 2019 at 11:05:57 AM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

Depends on the property. A $50 bet at the Wynn is nothing. Try it at the El Cortez. $50 there will have everyone in the place watching you.



I actually saw this at the EL
The pit boss didn't just watch the bettor closely
She went through the discard pile to see what the count was.
I was counting also but a low roller spread so I was ignored
When I saw her go through the discard pile, I got up and left
I like playing at the EL and did not want any problems
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billryan
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January 14th, 2019 at 11:33:18 AM permalink
The player was obviously doing something wrong. Been playing the EC since 2001 and never gotten a hint of heat. Don't spread 3-50 and you too can play there.
mamat
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January 15th, 2019 at 3:09:37 AM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

Try it at the El Cortez. $50 there will have everyone in the place watching you.

Sitting at a El Cortez BJ table, a European guy stepped up and placed three bets of $75. Pit boss rushed over, pushed all three bets out of the betting circle, and said "We don't want your action." They argued for a bit. Didn't look like the El Cortez people knew who he was. They just panic about big action unless you are a known ploppy.

I was flat-bet at El Cortez decades ago, but they've never reminded me of the flat-bet restriction.
Sometimes I just start with $20, and if the count is good, push all-in. If I lose, bring out another $20. But I also don't play very long (so the theoretical loss for the El Cortez is low).

When I was warned, I chatted with the manager about people grinding reds, and the manager said "but anyone can have a lucky run". They are pretty paranoid there, but also the casino doesn't make much compared to a big strip property.
ChumpChange
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January 15th, 2019 at 4:56:35 AM permalink
There was one casino I was at around 1995 in Minnesota, near a nuke plant. I saw one guy at the $5 BJ tables and he was kicked out for winning $150, probably for counting. I saw a lucky woman start yelling at everybody around as security dragged her from a BJ table after she won near $3000, just because she was a big winner, and that was no way to treat a big winner, period! Makes all their slot jackpot winners advertising seem extremely hollow.
Minty
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January 16th, 2019 at 10:12:48 AM permalink
On a related note, and I know people have brought this up before, but how long do you wait to go back after being backed off or barres.? I've been anticipating returning to a place soon, but I wonder if it's too soon even though I haven't been backed off yet. Do you avoid affiliated casinos? Love the discussion here.
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