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April 11th, 2018 at 3:50:19 PM permalink
First off, my play is starting to heat up around here and i think im gonna go play in SoCal for a couple of months and plan on visiting some of the beaches while im there with the weather starting to get a bit better.

Can anyone recommend the best SoCal beaches with lots of sand, nice views, and a relatively safe area? Just looking to go there at night to relax and clear my mind. So far from my research it looks like El Matador beach, Coronado beach, and Huntington Beach seem to be the best. Im aware most of the beaches in SoCal close around 10pm, but does anyone have any experience of sneaking in and staying on the beach longer than that? I believe people do that and as long as youre not causing a problem, the cops dont really bother you?

Thanks
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April 11th, 2018 at 4:06:22 PM permalink
Spent a lot of time at Huntington Beach body surfing growing up, but no idea about after closing time issues. Why not go during the day?
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April 11th, 2018 at 4:54:31 PM permalink
I grew up in Seal Beach so consider myself somewhat of an expert on the southern California beaches -- Santa Barbara to San Diego. They all have their unique personality. A young man like yourself I would imagine would prefer the beaches with an active nightlife and a younger crowd. Huntington Beach would be good for that. So would Venice Beach. Being an OC boy, I'm partial to Huntington Beach, but I admit a bias. If you see someone riding a unicycle down the exercise path, say "hello."

About the beaches closing, I think that is rule is only enforced against people causing a disturbance. If you're discrete and quiet I don't think anyone will bother you. The police in Long Beach and Seal Beach are notorious of hassling people that look homeless or like criminals. They can always find some law you're not in compliance with.
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April 11th, 2018 at 4:57:06 PM permalink
I love La Jolla in San Diego. (Pronounced La Hoya)
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April 11th, 2018 at 5:04:20 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I love La Jolla in San Diego. (Pronounced La Hoya)




Bombay Beach is inland on the Salton Sea but is really nice.

Pacific Beach is very nice in the San Diego area and is just below La Jolla
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April 11th, 2018 at 5:05:55 PM permalink
I grew up in Huntington Beach and Palos Verdes. I remember when there were nightly fires on the beach. The beach is wide and beautiful. Excellent for walking. I always recommend people at least experience this beach. Near the pier is very commercialized now. However, I would imagine you have very little problems a half mile or so either direction from the pier.

You may enjoy Rat Beach on the Torrance side of Palos Verdes. Situated in a nice cove. I spent many a night on that beach during high school. We used to have this place to ourselves. You could walk in from the Palos Verdes Beach Club.
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April 11th, 2018 at 5:14:20 PM permalink
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You may enjoy Rat Beach on the Torrance side of Palos Verdes.



That is a nice quiet beach. Good hills if you're looking for a unicycle challenge.


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April 11th, 2018 at 5:15:33 PM permalink
Thanks guys. Gonna try to check out all of them. Appreciate the help.
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April 11th, 2018 at 5:26:58 PM permalink
If you want complete peace and quiet at night (and safe), check out Playa Del Rey next to Marina Del Rey. It's quiet, dark, and a good place to clear your mind. Nobody will bother you at night.
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April 11th, 2018 at 6:35:14 PM permalink
Ask yourself why your play has started to heat up, and what could / should you have done to prevent it?

There are AP's living the dream in Sin City, but then again they go about it differently, smarter, quieter, without acting in an obnoxious and abrasive manner while plying their tradecraft.

Learn from your mistakes.
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April 11th, 2018 at 6:40:32 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Ask yourself why your play has started to heat up, and what could / should you have done to prevent it?

There are AP's living the dream in Sin City, but then again they go about it differently, smarter, quieter, without acting in an obnoxious and abrasive manner while plying their tradecraft.

Learn from your mistakes.



What fun would that be? He's heading to Cali to bust some heads when they try to back room him. He needs some beaches to find serenity afterwards.
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April 11th, 2018 at 11:55:43 PM permalink
I like south Oceanside beach. Idk why. It’s really quiet, but pretty much only have dry sand during low tide. Just down 76 if you’re going from the north San Diego casinos.
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April 12th, 2018 at 4:29:34 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

What fun would that be? He's heading to Cali to bust some heads when they try to back room him. He needs some beaches to find serenity afterwards.



No, if I'm reading correctly, he needs beaches to sleep in his car without being rousted or robbed. GL with that, ZK.
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April 12th, 2018 at 7:40:33 AM permalink
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No, if I'm reading correctly, he needs beaches to sleep in his car without being rousted or robbed. GL with that, ZK.

Are you sure??
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April 12th, 2018 at 7:47:30 AM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

Are you sure??



Of course I'm not sure. I'm not him.

I'm just adding his many posts together about:

Being willing to sleep in his car

Being unhappy with the price of hotel rooms

Refusing to get player cards that could earn hotel comps

Going to SoCal, an area he doesn't know, but which is notoriously expensive.

Asking about quiet or less popular public beaches that can be used at night.

That adds up to catching a few z's without lodging.
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April 12th, 2018 at 8:06:58 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Of course I'm not sure. I'm not him.

I'm just adding his many posts together about:

Being willing to sleep in his car

Being unhappy with the price of hotel rooms

Refusing to get player cards that could earn hotel comps

Going to SoCal, an area he doesn't know, but which is notoriously expensive.

Asking about quiet or less popular public beaches that can be used at night.

That adds up to catching a few z's without lodging.



Interesting observation. I actually did think about sleeping at the beach on the sand, but that's not the reason for my post about the beaches at night. I just wanted to get away from a lot of stuff and just clear my head with the sound of the waves, etc. You mentioned me sleeping in the car though at the beach, not on the sand, correct? So you weren't 100% spot on.
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April 12th, 2018 at 8:32:51 AM permalink
Check out the Muscle Beach Gym.

You'll want to stay in shape for when you go back to Vegas and have to bust some heads when the casinos start sweating you.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:02:42 AM permalink
So you are detective Bab???😁😁😁😁😁.
I think sleeping in the beach is somewhat romantic. Of course you need a mate.
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April 12th, 2018 at 11:40:33 AM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

So you are detective Bab???😁😁😁😁😁.
I think sleeping in the beach is somewhat romantic. Of course you need a mate.



What do the Aussie’s have to do with this?
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April 12th, 2018 at 1:20:10 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

What do the Aussie’s have to do with this?

???
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April 12th, 2018 at 1:25:57 PM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

???

You made a "mate" reference. As in , "g'day, mate!"
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April 12th, 2018 at 3:00:36 PM permalink
Something something ya c*nt!
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April 12th, 2018 at 5:05:17 PM permalink
Sorry,did not get it.
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April 12th, 2018 at 9:20:39 PM permalink
This forum is known around town and beyond for often becoming one of the most unintentionally hilarious little corners of the web with its "advice" & it's nice to see it still doesn't disappoint! With name changed to protect the chronically guilty:
Quote: Whodat

Bombay Beach is inland on the Salton Sea but is really nice.

Ummm, yeah. That's just what locals in the desolate eastern side of Riverside County around Indio, Coachella, Twentynine Palms, Niland & "Slab City" area say... to really obnoxious people they never want to see again, kind of like the old Vegas invitation to "take a ride in the desert" ...in the trunk, with a shovel. Come to think of it, is it possible that maybe this time the "advice" wasn't totally unintentional? Doesn't seem likely, but if it was actually deliberately sly, then: nice hand, well played.

Whatever, I can't begin to do it justice unless the interwebz have a way to send smell (an incredibly overwhelming choking smell that would provoke any man or beast within miles with the ability to run away!) but here's a hint or two:

BOMBAY BEACH: A Post-apocalyptic Nightmare on the Salton Sea:

Quote: California Curiosities - Unique Things Across a Strange State

...<SNIP>...A unique wasteland borne from the notorious, ecological **ck-up know as the Salton Sea, Bombay Beach is a fascinating, sad and depressing disaster zone of a town. To give it a brief overview: think the terrain of Mad Max mixed with the people of Gummo.


Strange Geographies: Bombay Beach:

Quote: Ransom Riggs @Mental Floss

Bombay Beach may be the most famously depressing place in California; the poster child for the post-apocalypse. On the edge of the dying Salton Sea, an enormous body of water half the size of Rhode Island and so salty and polluted that by 2030 no fish will be able to survive in it, there is a town. There are several towns, actually, along the Salton's 70+ miles of rancid coastline, but the most in tact, the most iconically awful, is Bombay Beach.

It's a 10-by-10-block square of squat houses and mobile homes that was somebody's idea of paradise back when the town was incorporated in 1929. A beachy getaway 150 miles from the Pacific, it was supposed to be Palm Springs with water -- but decades of hyper-saline farm runoff and other problems turned the sea into a nightmare; plagued by fish and bird die-offs and outbreaks of botulism that leave its banks littered with corpses and its beaches smelling like hell, all but the hardiest tourists and investors had fled the scene by the late 60s. Even worse...<SNIP>...


Salton Sea: From Relaxing Resort to Skeleton-Filled Wasteland:

Quote: Slate

...<SNIP>...Now, Bombay Beach is a bleached, rusted, abandoned wasteland. The water smells of salt, petrol, and rotting fish. The shores, once lined with sunbathers, are covered in green sludge and desiccated fish carcasses. It's an apocalyptic landscape...


Bombay Beach, California :


Quote: Atlas Obscura

...<SNIP>...but the rising salinity in the Salton Sea created major bird and fish die-offs and a series of floods from tropical storms in the 1970s. The area never recovered. The few remaining residents today live in trailers, where they hide out from the blazing sun.


Gee, that was fun. Shame on me.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:57:26 PM permalink
So no one commented yet about any possible beaches where I could be able to get into at night. Any ideas? Just wanna pitch a towel on the sand and chill by the waves.
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April 12th, 2018 at 11:54:47 PM permalink
I think the local homeless/rv crowd hangs out on fiesta island. Supposedly not supposed to overnight but a lot of them didn’t look to move often.
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April 13th, 2018 at 1:51:41 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Check out the Muscle Beach Gym..

Ain't that been fenced off and members only for decades?
And while we are at it, isn't Pacific Beach strewn with stench from Mexico or is that Imperial Beach?
I know that Salton Sea stuff if for the birds: rotting fish, debris, slab city rejects.

I don't know about this Huntington Beach stuff. What is the use of a free night sleeping on the sand if your morning 'two eggs and toast' will set you back 30.00?

La Jolla was beautiful. Even I liked it. Didn't know at the time but soon found out about this La Hoya thing. So when some girl told me about the pronunciation I said I'd take her to Paris anytime in Hune or Huly.

I just wonder if you spend your night on the beach thinking some hippie chick from the sixties will walk up and ask to share your blanket for the night what it will be like when reality hits you some day.
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April 13th, 2018 at 2:02:32 AM permalink
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..in the trunk, with a shovel. .

See The Green Felt Jungle for examples of those rides to the airport in the trunk and conversation about shovels.
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April 13th, 2018 at 6:13:39 AM permalink
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So no one commented yet about any possible beaches where I could be able to get into at night. Any ideas? Just wanna pitch a towel on the sand and chill by the waves.



Venice Beach for years was considered the hippy beach of the LA area. It still is but is becoming pricey and commercial. It has a foot in both worlds at the moment. Anyway, I don't think anyone would hassle you there for chilling on the sand at night as long as you weren't bothering anybody.

You could also just try it anywhere. The worst that will happen is someone will ask you to move on, which you should as opposed to getting mad.
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April 13th, 2018 at 3:37:58 PM permalink
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No, if I'm reading correctly, he needs beaches to sleep in his car without being rousted or robbed. GL with that, ZK.



My brother got tickets all the time for sleeping in his car in Seal Beach and Long Beach. He said the police were familiar with his car, a classic Mustang, and looked for any excuse to cite him for something. They could always find something.
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April 14th, 2018 at 7:49:04 AM permalink
Only a rich man can sleep on a park bench without consequences.

Even the beach at San Onofre which became a hippie haven and pick up point for Hippie Chicks and older men with RVs simply is no more. The Sixties are gone. You sleep on the beach now, you get fined. And you have to pay two dollars to drive in just so you can find out there ain't no hippie chicks there anymore. They all moved to Santa Cruz.
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