Deucekies
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:55:55 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

You do not need to show one for a CTR. Our policy is to not pay you until you produce it and tell you that your are not welcome back at the casino until you produce it. If the disputed amount is greater than $500 the casino is supposed to call Gaming.



I think you're contradicting yourself. You say you don't need to show ID for a CTR, but then you say you won't get paid without it. Which is it?
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Hunterhill
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August 13th, 2017 at 11:35:49 PM permalink
You can Ctr without any winnings.Just buy in for 10k,if you refuse to give ss# the casino will kick you out and not let you play again until you provide it.
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tringlomane
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August 14th, 2017 at 12:00:13 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Yea its called conspiracy to commit murder and gets u serious jail time if convicted



I want to say those that hire the hit man get executed more often than the hit men themselves.
Romes
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August 14th, 2017 at 12:12:16 PM permalink
Quote: RS

...As far as showing ID, I think that'd be an excellent question for Bob. N.

Although I'm pretty sure you have to show one for a CTR.

He said in a former broadcast you don't (though perhaps this is pending state) and that the person asking for it is supposed to simply take the best physical description of you they can instead of your ID information.

Quote: DRich

You do not need to show one for a CTR. Our policy is to not pay you until you produce it and tell you that your are not welcome back at the casino until you produce it. If the disputed amount is greater than $500 the casino is supposed to call Gaming.

This policy is against gaming regulations (in most states). Legally they do not have to provide ID, and thus you can not deny a payout based on "internal policy." But of course, like this would ever get a casino in trouble from gaming...
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DRich
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August 14th, 2017 at 12:15:28 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

I think you're contradicting yourself. You say you don't need to show ID for a CTR, but then you say you won't get paid without it. Which is it?



I'm saying you are not required to provide it, but if you don't you may not get paid (or at least in a timely fashion without a fight). It all comes down to the individual. Some people would rather stay anonymous than collect what might be a small amount of money. If you are cashing out a small sum like $5 and the cashier asks you for ID, you determine if that $5 is worth giving up your ID and tax information for.
DRich
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August 14th, 2017 at 12:19:05 PM permalink
Quote: Romes



This policy is against gaming regulations (in most states). Legally they do not have to provide ID, and thus you can not deny a payout based on "internal policy." But of course, like this would ever get a casino in trouble from gaming...



Two points, the argument is that it isn't internal policy it is the policy of FINCEN which is the Department of Treasury and in general Gaming doesn't want to stand up to FINCEN. Secondly, you are right Gaming almost always finds for the casino in disputes.
mcallister3200
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August 14th, 2017 at 12:21:06 PM permalink
Being that the nevada gaming commission is currently complicit In allowing at least one center strip property to flat out steal from unrated patrons with virtually any denomination of chips (like 3 black chips even lol), I would not count on any help on a CTR issue.
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August 14th, 2017 at 5:12:51 PM permalink
It is a good start but it has not finished yet. Keep the good news coming.
AxelWolf
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August 15th, 2017 at 6:17:20 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Secondly, you are right Gaming almost always finds for the casino in disputes.

Are you talking about in this area or in general?

If you take all the general publics disputes, I have a feeling there are many frivolous disputes.

As far as AP's go. Most of the disputes I have been involved in or have first-hand knowledge of have been in favor of the AP. Most of the time when an AP files a complaint they know the casino is obviously wrong.
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DRich
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August 15th, 2017 at 6:40:29 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Are you talking about in this area or in general?

If you take all the general publics disputes, I have a feeling there are many frivolous disputes.

As far as AP's go. Most of the disputes I have been involved in or have first-hand knowledge of have been in favor of the AP. Most of the time when an AP files a complaint they know the casino is obviously wrong.



Yes, I was referring mainly to the general public. As almost anything, the more educated you are on the regulations and procedures the better chance you will win in a dispute

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