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gamerfreak
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August 10th, 2017 at 8:09:11 PM permalink
I totally struggle with mental math. As embarrassing as it is, even simple addition can have me counting on my fingers. I don't think I'm stupid (I could be stupid), my brain does really well with critical thinking and logic tasks in things like software development, but mental math has always been a struggle.

I thought maybe learning to do computations on an abacus could help, but I worry that it would just make me more reliant on visual indicators.
sixsisters
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August 10th, 2017 at 9:35:58 PM permalink
I think the skill based boat for attracting millennial has already sailed. Over the past 10 years on line gaming has been less about winning and more about addons and building a world. 80% of revenue is achieved thru ad ons and 99 cent features. Latest so called skill based gaming slots are Pac Man and Asteroid. Both were released in 1980. By most definitions a millennial was not even a gleam in his fathers eye at the time. What next Skilled Based PONG ???

Yes, bars did have PONG tables, video screen in middle of a very low end table sized table and 2 low rider chairs. There is a reason they are no video arcades in the malls anymore. Anybody see where 50% of malls will disappear in 5 years.
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August 10th, 2017 at 10:49:47 PM permalink
I feel there are multiple factors the millennials are not gambling

1. The US stunk up the economy for them by the time they graduated college. Instead of promising entry-level jobs to start their 401Ks and start paying their college loans, they ended up in their parents' basement with a part-time minimum wage job.

2. The Greedy education system jacked up the the prices of tuition (to include "cheap" public colleges). Their tuition and student loan is outrageous. No wonder they have no money to gamble.

3. We stunk up the gambling scene for them. Young buck 21 year old ready to gamble, and their first taste o gambling is 6/5 blackjack which almost gives them no chance to win. Crappy slots that are tighter and tighter.

4. Their affinity for drugs like ecstacy lured them to the EDM (electronic dance music) scene. They'd rather spend $20 on a pill, pay $40 to go listen to some brand-name DJ at a club than throwing down $60 bucks at a terrible-rule blackjack game in 10 mins.

5. Their attention-span has shrunk, therefore they have no desire to stand at a craps table and learn the basics of craps. They've given right after seeing the busy craps table.

I think these are some of the reasons why millenials don't gamble as much. When I say this, I mean in general. There are some crazy youngbuck gamblers out there.
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August 10th, 2017 at 11:03:42 PM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy



5. Their attention-span has shrunk, therefore they have no desire to stand at a craps table and learn the basics of craps. They've given right after seeing the busy craps table.

It looks like they are smarter than previous generations after all.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
billryan
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August 11th, 2017 at 1:02:12 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I feel there are multiple factors the millennials are not gambling

1. The US stunk up the economy for them by the time they graduated college. Instead of promising entry-level jobs to start their 401Ks and start paying their college loans, they ended up in their parents' basement with a part-time minimum wage job.

People my age came of age in the mid 1970s. The economy was so bad Nixon imposed price and wage freezes. Ford thought everyone wearing a WIN button would Whip Inflation Now. The country was in a horrible malaise with Vietnam and Nixon resigning.

2. The Greedy education system jacked up the the prices of tuition (to include "cheap" public colleges). Their tuition and student loan is outrageous. No wonder they have no money to gamble. Tuition was rough back then too.

3. We stunk up the gambling scene for them. Young buck 21 year old ready to gamble, and their first taste o gambling is 6/5 blackjack which almost gives them no chance to win. Crappy slots that are tighter and tighter.
My people saw the introduction of the double Zero, multi deck blackjacks, ect, ect. All we heard about was the good old days of single deck dealt to the last card

4. Their affinity for drugs like ecstacy lured them to the EDM (electronic dance music) scene. They'd rather spend $20 on a pill, pay $40 to go listen to some brand-name DJ at a club than throwing down $60 bucks at a terrible-rule blackjack game in 10 mins.
Do you seriously want to compare todays drug use to the Psychedelic Sixties, The Cocaine Cowboy era or the crack epidemic?

5. Their attention-span has shrunk, therefore they have no desire to stand at a craps table and learn the basics of craps. They've given right after seeing the busy craps table.
If we didn't learn it on Captain Kangaroo or Zoom, it wasn't worth learning

I think these are some of the reasons why millenials don't gamble as much. When I say this, I mean in general. There are some crazy youngbuck gamblers out there.



PS- Get off of my lawn. I used to look in the mirror and see Tommy Anderson. Now I see Mr. Wilson. I wonder how many will even understand that reference.
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August 11th, 2017 at 2:35:51 AM permalink
There are a lot of things affecting Millenial habits and interests. A lot of it is money-based, for sure. They're loaded with debt and/or priced out of most housing markets in starter jobs. Their expectations are way high due to over-saturation by advertisers and peer pressure . But there are some things becoming hip that compensate.

Women are wearing a lot of thrift store and second hand clothes. Ripped clothes are fine. New clothes are cheaper than ever. Hairstyles are casual and tousled, not fussy, for the most part. Everyone outside of Wash DC and NYC are wearing very casual clothes, even to work and on dates.

Salvation Army furniture is more in than ever. Reuse, repurpose, generic store brands, all cool.

Tvs and computers cost about 1/10th what they did 20 years ago, and for much better quality products. No such thing as long distance charges any more, and Internet is cheap. Streaming has about put movie theaters out of business, and online shopping has killed most malls; the others died via Walmart.

People don't send cards any more, they send emails. Most kids don't have stamps, a house phone, iron and ironing board, a dozen things I HAD to own when I first set out after college. Such a different world.

Yeah, I'm becoming George Wilson. Get off my lawn.
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AxelWolf
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August 11th, 2017 at 6:36:04 AM permalink
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Women are wearing a lot of thrift store and second hand clothes.



Now, walk into the club, like, "What up, I got a big cock!"
Nah, Iím just pumped, I bought some sh*t from a thrift shop

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 11th, 2017 at 6:42:23 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

PS- Get off of my lawn. I used to look in the mirror and see Tommy Anderson. Now I see Mr. Wilson. I wonder how many will even understand that reference.



I do!

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boymimbo
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August 11th, 2017 at 7:09:10 AM permalink
It's hard to say where the young generation is going. Older people are working into retirement but the labor force is growing. Mostly what is happening is that the younger generation, given messages by their parents to "follow your dreams" end up going through college to do that and graduate with something that is not useful. That doesn't make the experience useless; quite the contrary. We (as parents) gave these kids that message because we followed in our own parent's dream which was to find a good career, get a pension, and be loyal to a single employer. What ended up actually happening is that those jobs mostly disappeared but we were mostly given the means to fend for ourselves because we could build up skills and change employers readily. Because of that, our messaging to our children changed, and rightfully so.

What makes the younger generation happy is not financial success but personal happiness, whatever that is defined by the person. That means that ya, they're in debt, but they don't feel the need to make alot of money as a status symbol anymore. Because people can find a niche of like-minded people online, people can remain in their bubble and their community without the peer pressure we used to feel as a fellowship of people bound by say a high-school class or university graduate.

This is good news, actually. It creates a variety within society of people who want to advance things on their own sake and not for capitalism. It is required I think because capitalism has run amok. Graduating university with $100k in debt is not sustainable and likely they will happily declare bankruptcy and live (happily) in their parents basement until they can figure things out. And their parents will support that.
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sixsisters
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August 11th, 2017 at 7:30:37 AM permalink
and that 100k in student loans will be on the books even after bankruptcy. Plus remember 7 year waiting period between bankruptcies. Now it is 8 years, Slid that past everybody

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