DJTeddyBear
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sixsisters
August 10th, 2017 at 8:44:49 PM permalink
Quote: Sands brochure

As players stand or bust, the dealer’s hand is completed as a result of each player’s decision. For example, while one player might stand, sending the subsequent cards to the dealer’s hand, another might hit and receive those cards toward his or her total - leaving each hand to the player’s discretion.


In other words, if one player hits while another stands, the next card goes to the player that hits while it also goes to the dealer for the player that stood.

A casual observer, looking at the big monitor over the dealer's head (as I did the other day), would not see what is actually going on. But on the individual terminals, I assume, the hands are displayed and play out as expected.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition.
sixsisters
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August 10th, 2017 at 9:24:37 PM permalink
The Sands page is WRONG. " If the
dealer ends up with Blackjack, your initial wager loses
while your INSURANCE wager pays 2 to 1. All other
actions including SPLITS or DOUBLE DOWNS will be
returned to the player."

OBOB IS THE RULE. SPLIT AND THEN BUST ON THE SPLIT HAND, NOT THE ORIGINAL HAND AND YOU WILL LOSE THAT BET. SPLIT 3 TIMES, GET 4 CARD 21 ON FIRST HAND, SPLIT 3 TIMES, BUST ON ALL THREE OF THOSE, LOSE ALL 4 BETS TO A DEALER BLACKJACK.
MrCasinoGames
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August 11th, 2017 at 10:29:19 PM permalink
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Even though all players may stand, dealer continues to deal as if a phantom player hits until the hand is 21 or busted. The next card is the dealers down card. He then hits as necessary per regular rules.


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sixsisters
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August 12th, 2017 at 8:20:43 AM permalink
Quote: sixsisters

The Sands page is WRONG. " If the
dealer ends up with Blackjack, your initial wager loses
while your INSURANCE wager pays 2 to 1. All other
actions including SPLITS or DOUBLE DOWNS will be
returned to the player."

OBOB IS THE RULE. SPLIT AND THEN BUST ON THE SPLIT HAND, NOT THE ORIGINAL HAND AND YOU WILL LOSE THAT BET. SPLIT 3 TIMES, GET 4 CARD 21 ON FIRST HAND, SPLIT 3 TIMES, BUST ON ALL THREE OF THOSE, LOSE ALL 4 BETS TO A DEALER BLACKJACK.



Now Sand and I have something in common We are both wrong. It is not OBOB It is BB+1

Does anybody know if you can resplit or just once. It's only once in Australia Fusion SB, only once in USA Interblock SB, and this fron Sands How to play
" Press “SPLIT” to split your first two cards"

ttps:///content/dam/bethlehem/pasands/en/main/home/gaming/StadiumGaming/Blackjack Stadium Gaming Rack Card.pdf
racquet
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August 12th, 2017 at 10:25:13 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

In other words, if one player hits while another stands, the next card goes to the player that hits while it also goes to the dealer for the player that stood.

A casual observer, looking at the big monitor over the dealer's head (as I did the other day), would not see what is actually going on. But on the individual terminals, I assume, the hands are displayed and play out as expected.



Upon further review...

You have it right.

The overhead video display shows the "table" with all of the cards after the first three being "community" cards.

The individual display at each player's seat shows the first three cards - two for you, one for the dealer. If YOU take a hit, the next community card goes to you. If the GUY NEXT TO YOU stands, that card goes to the dealer.

I'm not sure if the dealer gets a hole card at the start of a round or if he gets the next community card after your hand is finished. (Another reconnoiter needed...)

But in any event, there is no difference between this game and a human one regarding insurance and dealer blackjack - you can take insurance and you only lose your original bet with a dealer BJ - no loss of double or split wagers. Thinking this out, it would make sense that the dealer gets two cards at the outset - otherwise whether the dealer gets a natural would vary depending on how each player hits or stands. One player takes the 10 that would go under the dealer's ace, while another player might stand on his hand, letting that 10 go to the dealer.

The software could allow for either option, and the designers would be smart enough to allow all of the possible rules that a prospective client casino has in place at inception. So I would imagine that we all may be seeing different implementations based on how each casino sets it up.

Another tweak are the side bets. Originally I don't think there were any, but now there are a couple of match-the-dealer options, or maybe even a progressive. (Longer stop for research next time....) Again, I would think these would also be under File...Options...Setup on the master operator console.
racquet
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August 12th, 2017 at 10:27:56 AM permalink
Quote: sixsisters

Now Sand and I have something in common We are both wrong. It is not OBOB It is BB+1

Does anybody know if you can resplit or just once. It's only once in Australia Fusion SB, only once in USA Interblock SB, and this fron Sands How to play
" Press “SPLIT” to split your first two cards"

ttps:///content/dam/bethlehem/pasands/en/main/home/gaming/StadiumGaming/Blackjack Stadium Gaming Rack Card.pdf



"OBOB"? "BB+1"?

Sorry. I can't even remember whether ENHC is European- or Enhanced- NoHoleCard.
DJTeddyBear
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August 12th, 2017 at 10:48:49 AM permalink
Quote: racquet

... Thinking this out, it would make sense that the dealer gets two cards at the outset - otherwise whether the dealer gets a natural would vary depending on how each player hits or stands. ...

Correct, until you think about game protection.

The various methods of letting the dealer check his hole cards all have drawbacks. Add the raised stage, and close up cameras, it's just easier to go with a No Hole Card format.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition.
sixsisters
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August 12th, 2017 at 2:30:36 PM permalink
BB+1 (Busted Bets Plus One): at this situation, the dealer will take all busted bets, plus one more unit from everything else the player may have bet from doubling and/or splitting. That is, In BB+1, you will lose one bet per box to dealer BJ, regardless how many times you doubled or split.

Basically you will lose your original bet plus busted hands.
Example you split 8's against a dealers 10.
get a 3 and double down first 8 and get a 10 for 21, on the second 8 you get a 5 and hit with a 10 and bust. $5 bets
now dealer rolls over an Ace. You will lose only $5 on the double down. If you had stayed on 13 on the second 8 , that $5 would be returned to you. BUT you busted so now your total lost in $10.
TRUST ME I have this right Per Elliott Frome Gabriel Baron and Don Schlesinger.

DJ do not accept anything a dealer at Sands Tells you. Henry Tamburin had it wrong in Casino Player Magazine. When I pointed it out he went to Venetian and asked two dealers and got 2 different versions. Management was no help. Even Gabe, head of EYG at SG had it wrong at first.
I think maybe you can only spilt the first 2 cards. It's that way with Interblock Stadium Blackjack. Looks like that on Sands website.

ANYBODY ever tried to resplit at Sands ? I will reimbures if you invest $5 and try to split 10's. I got a feeling that split button will be dark after that first spllt ??????
sixsisters
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August 12th, 2017 at 2:34:30 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Correct, until you think about game protection.

The various methods of letting the dealer check his hole cards all have drawbacks. Add the raised stage, and close up cameras, it's just easier to go with a No Hole Card format.


THE DEALER GETS NO HOLE CARD , THAT'S WHY BB-1 IS USED.

Amazingly when you talk to anyone in Scientific Gaming, it's like " well, that a usual format in Australia". Yeah, like no need to educate the consumer. And as I stated before, The Sands website would lead you to think that busted 2nd 8 would retirn your bet. Not gonna happen.
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August 13th, 2017 at 12:01:11 PM permalink
https://netimegambling.com/2017/05/23/mohegan-sun-stadium-table-games/

Called Mohegan Sun and of course it's just like REGULAR BLACKJACK. They were pretty sure it had no hole card, were unsure if you could split more than once. Well, found a review on line for Mohegan and it is SG Stadium Blackjack.

" or example, the usual procedure of receive a card, see the dealer’s up card, then receive a second card is still true. However, after that, to stand or hit, surrender, double or split, remains the personal players decision. Then, “community cards” are dealt, one at a time until all players decisions are made. Finally, the dealer plays out his hand as the rules allow."

NOT true. The dealers hand may have already been played out for several players long before all player decisions are made.

"Splitting, surrender and doubling rules are typical and match the casino rules. Three side bets are included. Undesirable rules includes: 1) dealer hits on Soft 17. 2) no double after splitting. "

MATCH THE CASINO RULES ? no double after split

FINAL CONCLUSION : Maybe everything can be set by casino Wheher OBO or BB+!, split more than once, no double after split.
No racj cards on each table, but rules should be on a help screen ???

ANYBODY " Next time can you check out help screen , maybe photograph ???????

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