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Wizard
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July 24th, 2017 at 1:55:27 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Losing the dice isn't the problem with that game, Trouble. It's losing the game pieces that is.



Speaking of toys with missing pieces, does anyone remember the Smash Up Derby Cars?

It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Rigondeaux
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July 24th, 2017 at 3:11:33 PM permalink
What were your impressions of European casinos in general?

I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.
Ibeatyouraces
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July 24th, 2017 at 3:16:05 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.



That would be too easy.
Wizard
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July 24th, 2017 at 5:37:43 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

What were your impressions of European casinos in general?



I plan to write about the two I visited. I enjoyed the casino in Amsterdam much more than the one in Brussels, mainly because the players in Brussels were so rude and mean. More details to come.

Quote:

I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.



There was a continuous shuffler on the game.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
tyler498
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July 25th, 2017 at 10:19:41 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux



I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.



Isn't that all the cards?
Wizard
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July 25th, 2017 at 11:38:43 AM permalink
Quote: tyler498

Isn't that all the cards?



Touche! If they didn't use a continuous shuffler, I'd do something like this:

Ace: -8
2 to 9: +1
10's and faces: 0

I haven't done an effect of removal study, just making an educated guess.
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Rigondeaux
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July 25th, 2017 at 11:48:13 AM permalink
Quote: tyler498

Isn't that all the cards?



Yeah. It was a joke. Though smarter people might figure something out, like the wiz shows.
gordonm888
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July 25th, 2017 at 3:58:29 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Touche! If they didn't use a continuous shuffler, I'd do something like this:

Ace: -8
2 to 9: +1
10's and faces: 0

I haven't done an effect of removal study, just making an educated guess.



<FACESLAP>

Um, you see, I think that the only card that really counts is the Jackpot Ace. Given the (nominal) sizes of the progressive jackpots you report, and ignoring the mystery jackpot as you did, I calculate that if you bet the minimum and get halfway through the six deck shoe and the Jackpot Ace is not yet out then the player has about a 4% advantage over the house on this bet.

Here are some EOR calculations, these values are how much the player EV changes if you remove one of these cards from a six deck shoe.:

Jackpot Ace: - 0.1634
Other Ace: - 0.0098
King, Spades: - 0.0127
King, Other: -0.001781
2-Q: + 0.0019

The three caveats are:
- progressive jackpot sizes can be smaller (or larger) than what you posted
- given the fixed size of the progressive jackpots (independent of the size of your wager), these only apply to the minimum bet size of 10 euros.
- apparently, from your comment above, they may use a continuous shuffler, lol

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