AxelWolf
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April 18th, 2017 at 7:13:37 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

With no benefits, no time off for vacation and working 7 days a week to go along with other expenses?

I'll pass.


ZCore13

I'm not saying the money is good or anyone should do this, but the fact that you can take a vacation anytime you want without giving notice or asking anyone.... certainly is a plus. They never have to set an alarm clock, they never have to be on time("It's 1 pm?" "Oh FK it, I'm going back to bed until whenever") they never have to deal with anyone they wish not too, no one tells them when they can eat or what to do.

You will also find that the people who do stuff like this really enjoy doing it. It's more like a hobby that makes you money. Some even consider it a mini treasure hunt. They don't watch the clock hoping their shift will end (i'ts more like where did the time go?) They don't dread Mondays.

As they check the machine and then see that next hand multiplier, they get a short quick boost of happiness/ adrenaline each time. When they hit something the same thing happens. If they don't hit anything they don't usually care because they know they had value. They just add the big misses to their gambling war stories( "I found a dealt FH 12x multiplier on a $1 10 play and blanked it" )

Some people would gladly give up a significant amount of money per year if it meant really enjoying what they are doing and having freedom.

It's especially good for someone who's got a nice little nest egg saved up. They don't care if they blanked on all the multipliers that day, they don't have to worry how manny hours they put.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
LonesomeGambler
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April 18th, 2017 at 12:10:37 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Most blogs seem like that, start out strong, at least from a quantity perspective, with ideas that are stored up. Then seem to often die when either aren't accomplishing what they hoped or run out of ideas. Have liked all but the first one so far though

For what it's worth, Lee is one of the most active APs I know, and you'd be surprised how deep the well of topics can go when you're on the road all the time.
Zcore13
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April 18th, 2017 at 12:44:49 PM permalink
I'll give it 6 months before he's tired of blogging.

ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
mamat
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April 18th, 2017 at 12:56:00 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

With no benefits, no time off for vacation and working 7 days a week to go along with other expenses?

I'll pass.

Yes, some people live that life - 365/24/7. Reasons: Some are ex-cons and have problems finding regular jobs. Some don't want a regular job, and don't have the bankroll to retire - it is "the grind"...dreaded, yet needed. A lot of these people would like to "get out of the life".

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However, some do it for fun - part-time, maybe a few weekends or evenings here and there.

One guy has a six-figure job (60 hrs/wk), and stops by to play when he has time (about 1,000 hrs/yr).
Gambling provides a supplemental high 5-figures (6-figures in a good year).

Another person retired in the 1970s (via poker), and does UX for fun (almost no other games). Very low 5-figures each year.
He likes to have 200-300 day winning streaks, so doesn't like more volatile games.
His money is not invested in the stock market, but in fixed income, because he doesn't want the risk.
No poker. No blackjack.

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P.S. Benefits are room, board, shows, weird gifts like kitchen stuff. No medical, unemployment, or disability.
mamat
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April 18th, 2017 at 1:05:19 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

As they check the machine and then see that next hand multiplier, they get a short quick boost of happiness/ adrenaline each time. When they hit something the same thing happens. If they don't hit anything they don't usually care because they know they had value. They just add the big misses to their gambling war stories( "I found a dealt FH 12x multiplier on a $1 10 play and blanked it" )

Vulturing UX is the gambling equivalent of "picking up recycling cans/bottles", or like driving around "picking up Free Play".
Vast majority of gamblers will find it BORING.

Even if you find hundreds of plays a day, and look 7 days a week...
$100 only happens once a week.
$200 maybe twice a month.
$500 a few times a year
$1,000+ once a year
$2,000+ once every two years

...unless your area has a lot of $1-2-5-10 plays.

If you find 100 plays/day, you will only hit about 4-5 royals/year, and they will mostly be on nickels.

It is a very solid $15-20/hr strategy in some locations.
...but if you want to hit jackpots ($1,200) every day, or have days where you win $20K-100K, it's the wrong game to play.
InTimeForSpace1
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April 18th, 2017 at 1:11:00 PM permalink
Quote: LonesomeGambler

... you'd be surprised how deep the well of topics can go when you're on the road all the time.

It's the deepest math you will find, leading up to the super and sur- real numbers. But, if you have to prove something to the world, or thus prove something by not proving it, then you're not "there", which is what you'll know when you see it.
Believers are the ones who keep at it long after they've been told it can't be done. On the other hand, the real experts shouldn't care about the crackpots. But, if the wrong answer begs the question, then the wrong question begs the answer.
EvenBob
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April 18th, 2017 at 2:35:46 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I'll give it 6 months before he's tired of blogging.

ZCore13



Tired, or, like I said, pressure from the
outside that he talks too much. You
run out of topics and start giving away
real secrets and that's when it ends.
It goes away like it was never here.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
TomG
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April 18th, 2017 at 5:11:30 PM permalink
Quote: mamat

Vulturing UX is the gambling equivalent of "picking up recycling cans/bottles", or like driving around "picking up Free Play".
Vast majority of gamblers will find it BORING.



One of the first jobs I ever had was in a liquor store. Massachusetts was very stingy with their liquor licenses, so only a few in each town. And the town I grew up in had 30,000 local residents and 20,000 college students. There were people collecting bottles full time making $50 per day and plenty of others doing it sparingly making $50 per week. Tax free in the 90s, that wasn't great, but a decent opportunity available to anyone willing to work.

If that's equivalent to Ultimate X, then it is definitely a great opportunity, because if you can earn that at one casino game, you can add other video poker, slots, blackjack and sports, and earn even more.
TomG
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April 18th, 2017 at 7:15:59 PM permalink
Good article today "Don't Look Like an AP."

I'll add something to it: just because someone is betting big, they don't have to act like a high roller to avoid suspicion. Another way is to just look like an addict. Spending so much time bottom feeding in Las Vegas casinos, I've hung out with than a few guys who earn less than $30,000 per year and still manage to lose more than half amount at the casinos. They generally have a sense of humor that helps them survive, but they're not necessarily the big talkers, drinkers, or tippers. Think of the people losing their rent check as they escape into the mindlessness of a slot machine. It's rarer to see at the tables, but it does happen, they often do seem disinterested, like they know the outcome is inevitable, but they're just trying to fight off their withdrawal symptoms.

It can be related to the other article "Is it Heat, or is it Sweat?" At the lung cancer factories, it is often drool over catching a whale. That can sometimes be used for an advantage
InTimeForSpace1
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April 18th, 2017 at 7:47:10 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

Good article today "Don't Look Like an AP."

I'll add something to it: just because someone is betting big, they don't have to act like a high roller to avoid suspicion. Another way is to just look like an addict. Spending so much time bottom feeding in Las Vegas casinos, I've hung out with than a few guys who earn less than $30,000 per year and still manage to lose more than half amount at the casinos. They generally have a sense of humor that helps them survive, but they're not necessarily the big talkers, drinkers, or tippers. Think of the people losing their rent check as they escape into the mindlessness of a slot machine. It's rarer to see at the tables, but it does happen, they often do seem disinterested, like they know the outcome is inevitable, but they're just trying to fight off their withdrawal symptoms.

It can be related to the other article "Is it Heat, or is it Sweat?" At the lung cancer factories, it is often drool over catching a whale. That can sometimes be used for an advantage

I can't believe people somewhere are still talking about this sort of garbage as some way that they are the chosen ones. Look, casinos look at what you win or lose, nothing else.
Believers are the ones who keep at it long after they've been told it can't be done. On the other hand, the real experts shouldn't care about the crackpots. But, if the wrong answer begs the question, then the wrong question begs the answer.

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