mamat
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April 17th, 2017 at 3:26:59 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

Ok, fair enough but that means you have to find one every 4.6 minutes for 16 working hours a day 365 day a year. BRUTAL!

This sounds like people who complain they can only make $10/day recycling plastic bottles because you have to pick up X bottles/min all day.

Reality is effective bottle recyclers pick up entire garbage bags loaded by home/apartment dwellers, hotels, businesses, bars ... and hit beaches with massive parties & family gatherings. $100-200+/day.

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One loaded UX machine might have 10-40 plays. Some casinos have 60-80+ UX machines, and if your timing is right, you might check all of them in about 2-3 hrs, picking up a couple multipliers from each machine. [In the old days, it would have been a ridiculous number of plays, $30-50/machine. But competition is much heavier in 2017].

Working 8 hrs/day, it's still possible in some areas to find $150/day of plays (Average $16-20/hr. Much more on weekends, but less on weekdays).
If you are finding less than $12/hr, switch locations (if possible) and/or times. - It's NOT a good location.

If you get lucky, you can arrive at a casino, and still find $400-800 of plays in 2-3 hrs. ...but it's rarer these days.
Just a few days ago, someone found a 10X1 play and got dealt 4 deuces...

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P.S. Vulturing UX is an nine-year-old play (late-2008), and yet many people fail to understand the dynamics (what does a good location look like?)/

This is why a little information is not very dangerous, but step-by-step-by-step instructions may be TMI.

For various reasons, the proportion of people who can connect the dots is VERY LOW.
Last edited by: mamat on Apr 17, 2017
Ibeatyouraces
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April 17th, 2017 at 4:48:01 PM permalink
Hopefully, his blog won't abruptly end like Moo's did.
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mcallister3200
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April 17th, 2017 at 6:34:39 PM permalink
Most blogs seem like that, start out strong, at least from a quantity perspective, with ideas that are stored up. Then seem to often die when either aren't accomplishing what they hoped or run out of ideas. Have liked all but the first one so far though
InTimeForSpace1
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April 17th, 2017 at 6:56:58 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

I had lots of work and was getting big offers internationally. I just decided to retire for no good reason other than I didn't feel like working anymore. I don't need the money. I've met some great people along the way on both sides.

Even though I published a lot on Advantage play and may have burned out a few things before their time, there has never been a better time in the history of casinos to be an advantage player.

I'm an editor on a poetry website, performing as an actor in local community theater, am a volunteer docent for the elephants at the local Zoo, and have a new band. That's plenty to do.

Romanto-intellectualism? Look, many persons think that they are exceptional, but they are average like every one else. It's a matter of different paths to the same end. With feelings of exceptionality come feelings of inadequacy.
Believers are the ones who keep at it long after they've been told it can't be done. On the other hand, the real experts shouldn't care about the crackpots. But, if the wrong answer begs the question, then the wrong question begs the answer.
EvenBob
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April 17th, 2017 at 7:46:38 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Hopefully, his blog won't abruptly end like Moo's did.



I thought the exact same thing. It will go
a couple months then will completely
disappear like they all do. Oops, we've
said too much, what the heck were we
thinking.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Ibeatyouraces
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April 17th, 2017 at 7:59:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I thought the exact same thing. It will go
a couple months then will completely
disappear like they all do. Oops, we've
said too much, what the heck were we
thinking.


At least this guy isn't ripping people off. Get a load of the other guys prices.

https://cashcowconsultingblog.wordpress.com/class-schedule/
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RS
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April 17th, 2017 at 8:08:38 PM permalink
I haven't read this blog yet.


But there's a difference between explaining the specifics of how to do something, like WHAT the actual play was. For example, saying something like, "This new machine Crazy X Sunflowers has a banking feature.....when there are more than 8 sunflowers in the bank, its +EV" just hurts APs in general. Or "casino X has promotion Y, they have this game and that game. It's worth $Z/hr".

What I imagine this blog is about is more of the "how not to burn out plays" and technical type stuff. Grosjean's blog has a few excellent entries on this kinda stuff. One is on handing off a seat and another is what to do if you suspect your card is toast. You don't wanna burn a play because some idiot offered a ploppy $2k to take her seat on a packed table and boss/dealer/players overhead that. What kinda stuff you should or shouldn't do when you spot another AP in a casino especially on the same play you're on.
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EvenBob
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April 17th, 2017 at 8:09:56 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

At least this guy isn't ripping people off. Get a load of the other guys prices.

https://cashcowconsultingblog.wordpress.com/class-schedule/



"Getting Away With It. April 28-29. Columbus, Ohio. $2999."

Does that refer to them getting away with
these prices?

"Secrets of the Temple II. September 15-17, Las Vegas, NV. $19,999. Alumni only."

$20K? That better include a week of drugs,
penthouse hotel room and new girls every
night.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Zcore13
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April 17th, 2017 at 9:28:55 PM permalink
Quote: mamat

If you find 200 plays/day (all nickels), and your average play has three 2X multipliers, the daily EV = 200 x .75 = $150/day ($55,000/yr).

I think $55,000/yr - expenses...is enough to pay off some mortgages. :-)



With no benefits, no time off for vacation and working 7 days a week to go along with other expenses?

I'll pass.


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LuckyPhow
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April 18th, 2017 at 7:00:20 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Get a load of the other guys prices.



Wow! Only $20K for the "Secrets of the Temple" class. Where do I sign up? Oh, drat! It's only for "Alumni," so I guess that leaves me out.

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