AxelWolf
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May 25th, 2016 at 8:14:18 PM permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYeNXrElDQ

Anyone played this?

Wondering what the conditions and rules are. I think they have it at Parx and you use your player's card.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 25th, 2016 at 8:28:55 PM permalink
I haven't played it (or been to Parx), but it's 8D, dealer stands on soft 17. Not sure of the rest of the rules though. I do know that it's taxed as a table game because it uses live cards and dealers rather than RNGs. It's similar to other stadium style games but this is the first stadium style game I know of with a licensed brand attached.
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May 25th, 2016 at 8:47:03 PM permalink
Classic nonsense being spewed at from 50-54 seconds.
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May 25th, 2016 at 9:28:42 PM permalink
It's nonsense to worry about the effect of other players on your hand, but it's certainly not nonsense that people do. Otherwise the "other bad player" trope wouldn't even be a thing.
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:14:42 AM permalink
Did that dude just double down a hard 13?!
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:33:50 AM permalink
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Did that dude just double down a hard 13?!


You haven't heard? That's what all the cool kids are doing these days. Creating positive EV with forward thinking :)
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:35:04 AM permalink
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Did that dude just double down a hard 13?!


I have before. 0:-)
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:39:42 AM permalink
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I have before. 0:-)

As have I...
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:41:11 AM permalink
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As have I...


Was it a guaranteed 8 like mine was?
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:42:05 AM permalink
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Was it a guaranteed 8 like mine was?

Wouldn't ya know it, an 8 did come up when I did it ;-). We're lucky guys...
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:46:55 AM permalink
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Wouldn't ya know it, an 8 did come up when I did it ;-). We're lucky guys...


Yeah, I was lucky that the guy on my right waved a 16 but the dealer hit it, and instead of the supervisor burning the card, she let it be the next card and I conveniently had 13 and was allowed to double. Unfortunately, it was only a minimum bet.
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May 26th, 2016 at 8:47:12 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYeNXrElDQ

Anyone played this?

Wondering what the conditions and rules are. I think they have it at Parx and you use your player's card.



I stumbled upon this game and was excited for it initially. Yes, it's at parx

However, the game moves at a slow 60 hands per hour. 8D with Pennsylvania rules. Max bet is $300. You cannot bet on three hands for some reason. You can only pick one of the 3 hands to bet on. Theoretically, you can get three machines next to each other and fire away. However, I wonder if surveillance will notice if $300 bets are being made when everyone else is making <$25 bets. This is electronic bets after all. For that reason, I just decided to stick to the standard tables.

Also note that when you are taking a card, you will see the next card out of the shoe. However, if you are standing, and another player takes a card, you will not see the card on your screen. You will have to either stand up and peek at another player's screen or listen to the dealer announce the next card (can be hard to hear sometimes).

There is also a side bet for $25 that I didn't bother to analyze.
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May 26th, 2016 at 10:11:28 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYeNXrElDQ

Anyone played this?

Wondering what the conditions and rules are. I think they have it at Parx and you use your player's card.



IDK but if you win ten hands in a row the animated Shaq character says "Kobe...don't be rapin' ".
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May 26th, 2016 at 1:47:48 PM permalink
I am really surprised a casino bought this
Looks like it takes up a lot of real estate
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May 26th, 2016 at 11:57:13 PM permalink
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I am really surprised a casino bought this
Looks like it takes up a lot of real estate



Or why they are paying for Shaq branding. Why not just do normal blackjack?

But I mean, I think this is not too bad of an idea. Now you get potentially 30 low rollers in one place instead of wasting space or employees for several tables with $5 minimums. 1 dealer, no floor person for this game.
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May 27th, 2016 at 3:00:16 AM permalink
Quote: Avincow

I stumbled upon this game and was excited for it initially. Yes, it's at parx

However, the game moves at a slow 60 hands per hour. 8D with Pennsylvania rules. Max bet is $300. You cannot bet on three hands for some reason. You can only pick one of the 3 hands to bet on. Theoretically, you can get three machines next to each other and fire away. However, I wonder if surveillance will notice if $300 bets are being made when everyone else is making <$25 bets. This is electronic bets after all. For that reason, I just decided to stick to the standard tables.

Also note that when you are taking a card, you will see the next card out of the shoe. However, if you are standing, and another player takes a card, you will not see the card on your screen. You will have to either stand up and peek at another player's screen or listen to the dealer announce the next card (can be hard to hear sometimes).

There is also a side bet for $25 that I didn't bother to analyze.

Thank's I have a few more questions.

What's min bet? penetration? Was it rated like a slot/VP or a table game? How slow can you play(can you stall?)
How many terminals/spots per dealer? Pit Boss or just a dealer?

Side bet ehh? Sounds interesting. I asume you can just sit there all day without betting? Just tryin to get the full picture how this works. I guess I should watch the video again and look for more videos on it.
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May 28th, 2016 at 12:36:49 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Thank's I have a few more questions.

What's min bet? penetration? Was it rated like a slot/VP or a table game? How slow can you play(can you stall?)
How many terminals/spots per dealer? Pit Boss or just a dealer?

Side bet ehh? Sounds interesting. I asume you can just sit there all day without betting? Just tryin to get the full picture how this works. I guess I should watch the video again and look for more videos on it.



Min bet was $5 I think. You stick card in just like a slot machine if you desire. I did not, so I don't know how points work. My method was to not bet until the count was good, so yeah just hang around and watch like a ton of other ppl and then sit down. I think the pen was between 6.5/8 and 7/8. There's like 30-40 terminals with one dealer. No pit boss. You only get 10-20 seconds or something per move. Rest assured, every move will take 20 seconds with all the poppies.
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May 28th, 2016 at 1:27:46 AM permalink
Quote: Avincow

Min bet was $5 I think. You stick card in just like a slot machine if you desire. I did not, so I don't know how points work. My method was to not bet until the count was good, so yeah just hang around and watch like a ton of other ppl and then sit down. I think the pen was between 6.5/8 and 7/8. There's like 30-40 terminals with one dealer. No pit boss. You only get 10-20 seconds or something per move. Rest assured, every move will take 20 seconds with all the poppies.

so $0-$5 to $300 without a pit boss breathing down your neck.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:53:11 AM permalink
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so $0-$5 to $300 without a pit boss breathing down your neck.



Yes, a dream come true. Or is it? Who is to say there isn't someone in surveillance looking out for when someone bets $300. The terminals know what cards come out of the shoe. Can it be assumed that it knows the count as well? Maybe surveillance gets notified when $300 bets are made in a good count. but probably not. If you are paranoid, you can keep it under $100. But the game is slow. You are probably better off playing the old fashioned way. $300 bet in real blackjack is not too big of a deal most times, no machine is keeping track of the cards, and the pit boss is concerned with other stuff many times.
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May 28th, 2016 at 9:13:35 AM permalink
I like the game setup but the branding is so ridiculous. I lost it when they flipped out the basketball hoop drink holder.
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May 28th, 2016 at 1:57:54 PM permalink
Quote: Avincow

Yes, a dream come true. Or is it? Who is to say there isn't someone in surveillance looking out for when someone bets $300. The terminals know what cards come out of the shoe. Can it be assumed that it knows the count as well? Maybe surveillance gets notified when $300 bets are made in a good count. but probably not. If you are paranoid, you can keep it under $100. But the game is slow. You are probably better off playing the old fashioned way. $300 bet in real blackjack is not too big of a deal most times, no machine is keeping track of the cards, and the pit boss is concerned with other stuff many times.

Personally I would rather put the time and effort into something else.

I'm just surprised is all.

It would probably be good for a guy who's just getting started and learning and doesn't have a big bankroll.
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May 28th, 2016 at 9:28:12 PM permalink
This games reminds me of my Common-Hand Blackjack® Invented in 2006.


Common-Hand Blackjack®

The New Way to Deal and Play Blackjack

The Game is significantly faster with One Common-Hand is dealt which all Players share. Each making his own play decisions.
No card will be drawn until all Players have made their play decisions. Read More...

P.S. I have a new version of Common-Hand Blackjack®. Will be launching it this year and will update it here.
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May 28th, 2016 at 9:56:08 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

I like the game setup but the branding is so ridiculous. I lost it when they flipped out the basketball hoop drink holder.



It's so you can take that cold beer and throw it dooooownnnn big fella. You mean insurance salesman Shaq didn't do it for you? He even has a little briefcase.
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May 28th, 2016 at 11:11:37 PM permalink
Quote: MrCasinoGames

This games reminds me of my Common-Hand Blackjack® Invented in 2006.


Common-Hand Blackjack®
Click Here to See: Video Presentation

The New Way to Deal and Play Blackjack

The Game is significantly faster with One Common-Hand is dealt which all Players share. Each making his own play decisions.
No card will be drawn until all Players have made their play decisions. Read More...

P.S. I have a new version of Common-Hand Blackjack®. Will be launching it this year and will update it here.



Hi, Stephen! Nice to see you again. Thanks for the update.
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May 29th, 2016 at 8:08:25 PM permalink
You are welcome, Beachbumbabs.
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May 29th, 2016 at 8:31:30 PM permalink
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYeNXrElDQ

Anyone played this?

Wondering what the conditions and rules are. I think they have it at Parx and you use your player's card.



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April 30th, 2017 at 4:02:59 PM permalink
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im in parx for the first time in over 1 yr, seems ur comps or free play disappears if u not been there in some time. i never got much anyway from the old style VBJ machines, so i doubt it gives much comp--if any. plus in MOST VBJ in this part of the country, even ive seen in other states out east signs on the machines that say "each players cards dealt from individual shoe and other players decisions have no impact on u". i didnt investigate this game specifically (roll is dropped to under $20,000 so im only here to play poker), but are u sure its not shuffling every hand, (regular VBJ machines in the Trop do and so do the new ones but not the old ones in delaware park.) and u cant really track the count if the count is different for every player since they use seperate shoes? and if the dealer is using a different shoe than u, ur count is different than his, so how would it be beat?

would love to meet up with one of the regulars as long as its a guy who gets an edge, who can show me how
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