Mow21
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February 18th, 2016 at 8:11:47 PM permalink
I'll try to get out this weekend!
Paigowdan
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February 18th, 2016 at 8:48:51 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

This is a new pay table, hence a new count system. First of all, the house edge for this new pay table is slightly higher at 7.3213%. As for the count system, the following is quite strong:

3, 4, 5, 6, J, Q, K, A = +1
2 = -8
7, 8, 9, 10 = 0

Trigger true count = +3
Average edge = 16.81%
Bet frequency = 26.96%
Units won per 100 hands = 4.53

The win rate is better -- mainly because keeping track of 2's now correlates to the premium hand 2/2 that pays 20-to-1. (The game developer should have designed it to pay 22-to-1, by the way, house edge = 6.18%, don't you think?).

Either bet $25 or don't bet. No ramp.



Average edge 17% ?
Bet Freq 27%. ?

Wow. This is way worse than my own Lucky Win Baccarat.
It's enough to make me change sides....
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mcallister3200
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February 18th, 2016 at 8:57:10 PM permalink
Are there really competent blackjack card counters out there who only spread 1-8 on shoe games? (Other than that semi retired abrasive guy)
teliot
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February 18th, 2016 at 9:02:48 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Are there really competent blackjack card counters out there who only spread 1-8 on shoe games? (Other than that semi retired abrasive guy)

Sorry, I assumed Wonging and 8-to-1.
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mcallister3200
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February 18th, 2016 at 9:42:17 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

Sorry, I assumed Wonging and 8-to-1.


Ah ok. Makes sense.
AcesAndEights
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February 18th, 2016 at 11:06:18 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

It's enough to make me change sides....


Lol, right.
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teliot
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February 19th, 2016 at 9:26:58 AM permalink
My full advantage play analysis:

http://apheat.net/2016/02/19/card-counting-the-deuces-wild-blackjack-side-bet-6-decks/
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vegasedge
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March 3rd, 2016 at 9:42:53 AM permalink
In my recent travels I ran across this Deuces Wild side bet but with a much tighter paytable where the 2/A only paid 1 to 1 instead of 11 to 1 with all other payouts remaining the same as in the analysis. I have to think that this will nearly double the house edge and affect the opportunity to make money running this game down?

◾2/A pays 1-to-1

◾2/10 pays 10-to-1
◾2/9 pays 9-to-1
◾2/8 pays 8-to-1
◾2/7 pays 7-to-1
◾2/6 pays 6-to-1
◾2/5 pays 5-to-1
◾2/4 pays 4-to-1
◾2/3 pays 3-to-1
◾2/2 pays 2-to-1
◾2/J,Q,K pays 1-to-1
◾Others lose

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