SanchoPanza
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May 7th, 2015 at 8:07:38 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Banks do not like people who make frequent cash withdrawals and deposits of substantial size. There are several law abiding professional players who have been asked to bank elsewhere by banks for this habit. For some reason banks hate cash. This is the world we've created, carry cash and be treated like a criminal.

There is no good reason why a legitimate casino should have trouble accepting, say, a wire transfer from a legitimate player. Unless, of course, that player did not want to leave any trail behind him.
mcallister3200
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May 7th, 2015 at 8:20:19 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

There is no good reason why a legitimate casino should have trouble accepting, say, a wire transfer from a legitimate player. Unless, of course, that player did not want to leave any trail behind him.



I agree. But there's no reason for a lot of things that have gone on between casino's and AP's over the years. In most cases an AP wouldn't want to do this somewhere they play. I imagine casinos wouldn't enjoy doing this for someone who's not playing there.

It really is easier just to bring it through the airport, since it's not an issue anyway and isn't stressful anymore after you've done it twice.
stabworld
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May 7th, 2015 at 8:56:12 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Banks do not like people who make frequent cash withdrawals and deposits of substantial size. There are several law abiding professional players who have been asked to bank elsewhere by banks for this habit. For some reason banks hate cash, and financial institutions aren't toys. At the least doing so would likely rack up SAR'S

Carrying money through an airport shouldnt be an issue domestically. I've put 10-30k through several times. Straight through carry on, carried it through the scanner in my hands, or placed in a self addressed stamped envelope/package( at this point it would be considered federal property)



Ya, I traveled with it, right around 20k. Just put 2 stacks of 5k, and 1 stack of around 10k wrapped in rubber bands right in the grey bin. The airport security guy told me next time, just keep the cash in your hands. But, I had no problems.

mcallister, I would suggest strongly not to mail large sums of cash to yourself, if 1 shady postal person, steals it, you have no recourse to prove how much cash you had in your package.
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May 7th, 2015 at 9:00:11 AM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

Im assuming losing a hand there shouldn't be as much difficulty since no chips are currently in the betting spot.



Correct, this is the easiest way to put out anything you want after your bets were just taken. I still would use some discretion on not lowering your bets too much scewed from your last visible bet. Then it might look light very erratic betting spreads, usually indicative of a counter.

Quote: rudeboyoi

Say you want to decrease your wager do you take all the chips, both the chips you bet and the chips you won, then put out a bet less than you had before?



If I want to lower my bet, (after getting paid on my previous hand), I will first: take my chips from the win (paid bet from the dealer, assuming there are a bit of greens), then next: simply just take away the amount of chips from my original placed bet to reflect what I want my new bet to be.

If I'm betting just blacks, then that means I only have 6 black chips out there - then I do it all in one step, taking away 4 blacks from a pile of 6, after betting 3 blacks, if I want to go down to a $200 bet from a $300. Taking 4 chips away at once is not difficult, and if I did it in two hand motions, its just wasting time on your hands per hour. It's a different story when, I'm betting $300 in all greens, which happens a lot to me. Then I'm forced to do it in 2-3 hand motions, since I have around 24 chips out on the betting area.

I tend to prefer to bet $300 worth of greens, as opposed to 3 blacks, because a dealer almost always yells black action, once the blacks are out. which is weird, cause a dealer won't yell anything to alert the pit if $300 worth of greens is out there, but will yell black action with 1 black out. I usually play all green, until the dealer suggests or asked if they can pay me in black, which I always say ok - since its more convenient for both the dealer and the player. Also, betting blacks now, dosen't look as bad, because the dealer requested to pay you in blacks.

There's been times where I buy in if I lose my stack during a shoe, and request black, if I had my max bets out - the dealer yells to the floor," BLACKS REQUESTED!". I hate that. Just give me my black chips, and husssshhhh dealer.

Quote: rudeboyoi

Say you want to increase your wager do you only increase it up to the amount you won or do you collect all the chips and then put out more chips?



No. I leave what's already out there, (original bet + chips paid by dealer for winning the hand) and just add on what I want to. Again, if your taking all the chips off, then placing chips back on, your just wasting extra time and cutting into your hands dealt per hour.
mcallister3200
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May 7th, 2015 at 9:08:46 AM permalink
Quote: stabworld



mcallister, I would suggest strongly not to mail large sums of cash to yourself, if 1 shady postal person, steals it, you have no recourse to prove how much cash you had in your package.



I didn't and wouldn't, not what I was suggesting. You don't actually mail the envelope, you just self address it then take it through or put it in your carry on. I don't really do that anymore but that's what I did the first couple times.
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May 7th, 2015 at 9:17:06 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

I didn't and wouldn't, not what I was suggesting. You don't actually mail the envelope, you just self address it then take it through or put it in your carry on. I don't really do that anymore but that's what I did the first couple times.



Ahhhh, I gotcha. Sorry misunderstood, what you were trying to say.
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May 7th, 2015 at 9:20:56 AM permalink
Quote: stabworld

For those of you who travel with your trip bankroll on flights. How do you transport your money? Travelers checks? Cash? I will have quite a bit of money, over 15k, not sure If I want to travel with that much cash.



I've carried that amount and more on my person through airports for years with no problems. I hold it in my hand when going through security and have never been questioned about it. It's a very different story traveling by car where the police can steal your money for no reason if you don't take measures to protect yourself.
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SanchoPanza
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May 7th, 2015 at 9:27:42 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I've carried that amount and more on my person through airports for years with no problems. I hold it in my hand when going through security and have never been questioned about it.

That's odd. Since when does the TSA allow anything to be held in the hand? Especially when you have to up hold both arms.
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May 7th, 2015 at 9:50:15 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

That's odd. Since when does the TSA allow anything to be held in the hand? Especially when you have to up hold both arms.



I usually have 10k in hundreds in my shirt pocket. In a bank envelope it is barely a half inch thick. They tell me to take it out and hold it in my hand as I raise my arms, never asking how much is there or any other questions. I also wear a money belt and have only been asked to remove it once. Obviously it has no metal in it.
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May 7th, 2015 at 12:24:18 PM permalink
Quote: stabworld

I want to get other BJ AP's opinions on this. I have no problem spreading 1-6 on a $50 min double deck game. But, what about spreading 1-12 on a double deck $25 min game. The hourly expected value is almost the same, but you decrease your ROR by about 50-60%.

Do you think spreading 1-12 on a double deck $25 min is pushing it, and drawing too much unwanted attention?

Thanks.


Spreading 1-12 on $25 game is beyond pushing it and you won't last more than a max bet or two. I accidentally spread 1-12 with NICKELS (2 hands of $60) and I got shuffled on. Spreading to two hands of $150 from $25 will definitely get you more heat than you want.
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