Riva
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June 3rd, 2014 at 2:39:15 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Well there was that roulette dealer from the other thread who was clearly stealing money.



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Riva
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June 3rd, 2014 at 2:55:59 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm impressed if EVERYONE all the way to the top is entirely Volunteer with no salary or perks at all, and 100% of the money goes to a GOOD charity for the poor or disabled. I'm Not talking about new uniforms for the private school rich kids. Normally someone is getting a cut, kickbacks or a salary somewhere.

What kind of charities does the money go to?



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AxiomOfChoice
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June 3rd, 2014 at 2:57:45 PM permalink
lol. Giving money to a private school is "charity" now.
Riva
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June 3rd, 2014 at 2:59:50 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

lol. Giving money to a private school is "charity" now.



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June 3rd, 2014 at 6:38:28 PM permalink
Quote: Riva

At our big event, there are literally hundreds of volunteers. No salary. No perks One exception, we have pro craps dealers.

I am not at liberty to disclose where the money goes to other than to say we are a 125 year-old institution with an IMPECCABLE record of charity and doing good works for others. The money does not go to purchasing new uniforms for sports teams etc. In short, the money passes through to families who could not otherwise afford to have their child attend this outstanding school. there



are you not willing to say to keep it private or is it not published during the event?
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June 3rd, 2014 at 6:44:34 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

are you not willing to say to keep it private or is it not published during the event?

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June 3rd, 2014 at 6:46:57 PM permalink
It would be incredibly shady if it isn't publicized during the event.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 6:49:45 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

It would be incredibly shady if it isn't publicized during the event.



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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:02:40 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

It would be incredibly shady if it isn't publicized during the event.



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rudeboyoi
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:10:09 PM permalink
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:21:37 PM permalink
Quote: Riva

Nearest Indian casino is 100 miles or so. The 3 Detroit Casinos (non tribal) are 20 miles down the street.



Then people in this thread arguing with you should just drive to Detroit and leave your gaming nights alone, imo. Are we really that worried that people do not know that dealer wins ties is not casino blackjack? I would assume most of them know. I'd hope at least.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:25:54 PM permalink
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Then people in this thread arguing with you should just drive to Detroit and leave your gaming nights alone, imo. Are we really that worried that people do not know that dealer wins ties is not casino blackjack? I would assume most of them know. I'd hope at least.


The only $2 blackjack in Detroit is at MGM's party pit, and in order to bet that, you must first pay a 25 cent ante. Oh, and blackjack pays even money.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:29:27 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The only $2 blackjack in Detroit is at MGM's party pit, and in order to bet that, you must first pay a 25 cent ante. Oh, and blackjack pays even money.



And $5?

I'm not going to defend Detroit's apparent right to have a decent sub $10 game.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:32:23 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

And $5?

I'm not going to defend Detroit's apparent right to have a decent sub $10 game.


No $5 bj downtown. Need to go to Soaring Eagle for that.

As for the party pit at MGM. You can bet any amount under the minimum down to $1. But as I said, you have to pay that quarter ante and bj only pays even money.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:49:29 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

No $5 bj downtown. Need to go to Soaring Eagle for that.

As for the party pit at MGM. You can bet any amount under the minimum down to $1. But as I said, you have to pay that quarter ante and bj only pays even money.



Right so the $2 charity game may be better for those who flat bet $2. But asking a charity game to run just like a casino seems just harsh to me, and I feel most of the posters in this thread think they should be just like a casino.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:51:17 PM permalink
Isn't that cute? Riva has deleted all of his posts.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:54:18 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

No $5 bj downtown. Need to go to Soaring Eagle for that.

As for the party pit at MGM. You can bet any amount under the minimum down to $1. But as I said, you have to pay that quarter ante and bj only pays even money.



Is that quarter ante and even money BJ at all values at this table, or just for under the minimum? (Which was... 2$?)

Quote: Deucekies

Isn't that cute? Riva has deleted all of his posts.



...I was wondering what all the number spam was.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:54:50 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

Isn't that cute? Riva has deleted all of his posts.


Isn't that suspension worthy?

I think there is a rule against thst.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 7:55:25 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Right so the $2 charity game may be better for those who flat bet $2. But asking a charity game to run just like a casino seems just harsh to me, and I feel most of the posters in this thread think they should be just like a casino.


I agree. If going to one of these Vegas nights for the lousy payoffs, look at it as a donation your willing to make. Still not nearly as bad as the lottery here.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 8:02:24 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Right so the $2 charity game may be better for those who flat bet $2. But asking a charity game to run just like a casino seems just harsh to me, and I feel most of the posters in this thread think they should be just like a casino.


When you add all of the bad parts together I think they should be outlawed.
1. Cover charge to get in
2. Really bad rules on all games
3. Limit of $500 cash out
4. They sell out of chips so if you are playing and go bust you have to quit playing.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 8:04:49 PM permalink
They should spread good games with good rules. Create ~270 organizations and find three different venues near each other and have gambling available 24/7.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 8:07:15 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

They should spread good games with good rules. Create ~270 organizations and find three different venues near each other and have gambling available 24/7.


One popular poker room is open 15 hours a day.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 8:18:04 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

One popular poker room is open 15 hours a day.



My figures were based on the room could only be open 8hrs a day. Idk what the actual laws are. Either way laws are dumb and can be worked around. Ethics are not.
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June 3rd, 2014 at 9:13:35 PM permalink
Did Riva get hacked? Or did another charity organization donate their time to edit his posts? What happened?
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June 3rd, 2014 at 9:44:37 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

They should spread good games with good rules. Create ~270 organizations and find three different venues near each other and have gambling available 24/7.



Convince those morally opposed to gambling of that. Considering MI legalized casino gaming, I'm surprised the state still allows a significant amount of charity gaming.

The thing that disturbed me the most about Riva's "charity" setup was the ATM (with no fees, no less!) than the "ties lose blackjack".
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June 3rd, 2014 at 11:36:23 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Considering MI legalized casino gaming, I'm surprised the state still allows a significant amount of charity gaming.


Vegas nights like Riva volunteers for are rare these days. Ten to fifteen plus years ago you could find one somewhere every weekend, usually at a church. Most of the organizations now go the poker room route.
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June 4th, 2014 at 12:04:18 AM permalink
It was probably my question regarding where the money really goes. I can only assume this entier operation is shady he got worried and frantically deleted everything.

I normally don't want to see suspensions but this is one case I feel the mods should think about this.
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June 4th, 2014 at 4:44:58 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

Did Riva get hacked? Or did another charity organization donate their time to edit his posts? What happened?



maybe? Normally Riva asks these questions and as soon as he doesn't get the answer he was looking for he asks a mod to lock it up.
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June 4th, 2014 at 4:49:22 AM permalink
I was under the impression that Riva was a female. Was I wrong? Anyway, he/she sure got snappy really quick in this thread
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June 4th, 2014 at 5:27:44 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I was under the impression that Riva was a female. Was I wrong? Anyway, he/she sure got snappy really quick in this thread



hmmm maybe. Sorry Riva if you are a female.
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June 4th, 2014 at 10:00:22 AM permalink
This thread is closed. I was reading it the other day, and I think Riva deleted his part out of frustration, not out of "hiding" something, because I believe he was asking for a mathematical comparison between 1:1 BJ pays and player loses ties but makes 2:1 on BJ. Instead, he got a lot of discussion about ethics and a lot of judgement on an activity he volunteers to provide. I could be wrong. Riva, please don't do a wholesale deletion again on a thread you've started, whether you get the answers you want or you don't. Just quit the thread or ask for it to be closed. Thank you. PM me with any questions or comments.
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