Greasyjohn
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:34:12 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces



Edit. I think 17 vs A at -4TC becomes a hit. I'll have to recheck.




You're correct,it's -4TC but only with H17, it's -6TC if S17.
Ibeatyouraces
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:35:21 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
AxelWolf
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:38:02 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I don't think that there is any count which dictates you hit any hard 17. That said, I've done it three times all against a ten up in high negative counts while heads up. Even though it was a bad play, two of the three I turned losers into winners and the other time I busted but would have lost had I stayed anyway.

Not one of my proudest AP moments, But one that turned 6.25 into 1k and i was my friend's hero. Back during VP flush Attack day. My then friend was new to the game of flush attack. we were splitting. During a bonus light the the strategy is totally different then when the bonus was off or on. We were playing during a bonus light as fast as possible when the light suddenly went off. I glanced at my friends machine and he had held A Q 10 7 OF CLUBS and he was about to draw the hand. I yelled, "NO" blocked his hand from drawing. I then un-held the 7 of clubs and drew the hand for him, k J of clubs popped in for a Royal Flush that paid $1,000. If he had drew the hand after his original hold, we would have only got $6.25
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Greasyjohn
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:42:12 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Umm... you did?

It sounds You indicated for her to hit.



No where in my post does it say or imply "hand" signal. My signals were undetectable and not audible.
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:56:05 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Greasyjohn

Obviously they were undetectable, that's why she hit hard 17.



So you're suggesting we had signals that she couldn't detect? Did you ever read the post after I corrected my error? Are you aware that in some negative counts hitting a hard 17 vs an ace is the correct play?
AxelWolf
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December 17th, 2013 at 10:03:29 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

No where in my post does it say or imply "hand" signal. My signals were undetectable and not audible.

Ahh.. your correct. I guess I was confused since your story changed.

Let me rephrase my question: WHY all the signaling when to hit or stand? Why not just sit next to her and tell her what to do?

I would love to know what signals you could possibly use that were undetectable by the casino, yet a seemingly a un-experienced or even an expert Black Jack player would not get confused with often. It would seem more complicated to properly learn how to read casino undetectable signals over just learning counting and strategy changes for ones self.
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Beethoven9th
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December 17th, 2013 at 10:33:58 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Greasyjohn

My signals were undetectable and not audible.

WHY all the signaling when to hit or stand? Why not just sit next to her and tell her what to do?


Yeah, that's what I want to know too. :)

It's like developing an intricate, undetectable system to let your wife know when you're hungry. WHY????? Especially when you can easily just tell her?? lol
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December 17th, 2013 at 11:01:59 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Yeah, that's what I want to know too. :)

It's like developing an intricate, undetectable system to let your wife know when you're hungry. WHY????? Especially when you can easily just tell her?? lol


Dont know why, but that reminded me of that joke: What do you do if your dishwasher stops working?.................................. Punch her.
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December 17th, 2013 at 11:09:32 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Dont know why, but that reminded me of that joke: What do you do if your dishwasher stops working?.................................. Punch her.



Nice!
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Beethoven9th
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December 17th, 2013 at 11:42:29 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Dont know why, but that reminded me of that joke: What do you do if your dishwasher stops working?.................................. Punch her.


Haha...I meant telling her at the casino & then going to a restaurant for a bite. I like your take better though. ;)
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