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October 12th, 2022 at 11:56:43 PM permalink
Biggest video poker jackpot of my life - $16,000 after hitting four aces on Bonus Poker ($200 bet):


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October 13th, 2022 at 1:42:27 AM permalink
Very cool, congrats. And welcome to the forum.

Now I don't want to rain on your parade, but I assume you are aware that some people recommend playing 5 units per hand in order for the Royal Flush bonus to be in effect.

IE:

Always play the maximum coins. I have never seen a machine that didn't offer a bonus on the highest hand for five coins played. If you are uncomfortable playing five coins, then drop down to a lower coinage.

Source:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/basics/#playing-strategy

And that is sound advice from the mathematical perspective. But of course you should play however you want, it is your money.
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October 13th, 2022 at 2:25:55 AM permalink
Seems like he won $40 of free play on a 25 cent machine playing 2 coins. I'd lower my bet to 1x $100 coin if I were going to continue on that machine like that. I'd expect to lose $6.40 per spin on 1 coin.
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October 13th, 2022 at 3:09:29 AM permalink
JohnnyQ, thank you.

Yes, my 2 credit play was suboptimal. I shouldn't have even been playing $100 denomination given the size of my bankroll. It was a terrible play for multiple reasons. I made it only because I was on TILT.

I had given back nearly all of my hard-won gains from the previous 2 days and was trying to recover. So I started going up in denomination - $5, $10, then $25. After I lost a few hands on $25 x 5 bets, I was overcome with frustration and regret but too stubborn and zoned out to cut my losses. So I bumped it up from $125 to the next highest dollar amount the machine offered - $200.

I fed two $100 bills into the machine. And then...the most I've ever wagered on a single hand, hoping to just hit 2 pair so I could move back down in denomination...I absolutely luck out like I never have before and probably never will again.

I don't want to even try to ever top this hit or reenter the mindset that produced it. I may never play video poker again. This is my moment, a rare one for any gambler, to walk away a lifetime winner on a game and forevermore be able to say, I BEAT THE CASINO!

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October 13th, 2022 at 4:19:34 AM permalink
Cool ! Well like Paul Harvey used to say, "Now, the Rest of the Story".....
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October 13th, 2022 at 5:27:35 AM permalink
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Always play the maximum coins. I have never seen a machine that didn't offer a bonus on the highest hand for five coins played. If you are uncomfortable playing five coins, then drop down to a lower coinage.



There are plenty of machines out there that do not give a bonus for playing max coins. I have mostly seen them in smaller markets or small non-casino locations.
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October 13th, 2022 at 5:45:16 AM permalink
I have seen a few VP games that have the RF bonus at 10 coins instead of 5.
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October 13th, 2022 at 12:35:45 PM permalink
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I have seen a few VP games that have the RF bonus at 10 coins instead of 5.
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There's also ones that scale properly. I think places like Dott'y do, but don't quote me on that.
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October 13th, 2022 at 12:46:20 PM permalink
Was this in Vegas?
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October 13th, 2022 at 1:02:15 PM permalink
Yes, it was at a strip casino.
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October 13th, 2022 at 6:34:17 PM permalink
I generally prefer spin poker or multi-hand machines to reduce volatility and increase the odds of hitting a big hand like 4 aces or royal flush. But those variations had worse pay tables where I was playing.

My gambling binge earned me over 40,000 tier credits in one day, advancing to platinum status. I don't intend to repeat that performance. (Then again, I didn't wake up that day thinking I was going to set a new personal record for coin in and play a $100 denom game.) But I do intend to make the most out of being perceived as a potential 40,000 tc per day player.

I think I have to wait until the end of the month to find out what my new standard offers are. I was already getting free rooms and up to $400 in credits per stay. Of course casino hosts can make better offers anytime at their discretion. The fact that I won three days in a row and was playing mostly video poker might work against me though.
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October 14th, 2022 at 6:01:02 AM permalink
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JohnnyQ, thank you.

Yes, my 2 credit play was suboptimal. I shouldn't have even been playing $100 denomination given the size of my bankroll. It was a terrible play for multiple reasons. I made it only because I was on TILT.

I had given back nearly all of my hard-won gains from the previous 2 days and was trying to recover. So I started going up in denomination - $5, $10, then $25. After I lost a few hands on $25 x 5 bets, I was overcome with frustration and regret but too stubborn and zoned out to cut my losses. So I bumped it up from $125 to the next highest dollar amount the machine offered - $200.

I fed two $100 bills into the machine. And then...the most I've ever wagered on a single hand, hoping to just hit 2 pair so I could move back down in denomination...I absolutely luck out like I never have before and probably never will again.

I don't want to even try to ever top this hit or reenter the mindset that produced it. I may never play video poker again. This is my moment, a rare one for any gambler, to walk away a lifetime winner on a game and forevermore be able to say, I BEAT THE CASINO!


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First off, congratulations on the win! I like the humility, honesty and genuine joy you expressed in this post (we need more of all of the above around here).

My question is (if you wouldn't mind answering): did you tip the attendant (I am assuming so) and what was the amount?

Another question: now that the emotions have (maybe) settled down, do you intend to "stay retired" and never play video poker again or are you tempted to try again for another big win to top this one?
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October 14th, 2022 at 6:29:18 AM permalink
Congratulations on the win! And I love your photo!
I counted 5k in the fan. Did you remove some bills from the bands they gave you or was that extra money you had?

Photos like that make for great holiday emails to relatives. LOL
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October 14th, 2022 at 7:27:14 AM permalink
Congratulations on your win! How exciting!
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October 14th, 2022 at 11:58:28 AM permalink
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My question is (if you wouldn't mind answering): did you tip the attendant (I am assuming so) and what was the amount?

Another question: now that the emotions have (maybe) settled down, do you intend to "stay retired" and never play video poker again or are you tempted to try again for another big win to top this one?
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I'd rather not open a discussion on tipping here. I refer you to this thread: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/all-other/37606-etiquette-of-tipping-dealers-yet-again/

As for playing video poker again, I would never say never. (And I would never believe a gambler who said never.)

But after finally hitting a satisfying jackpot, I am not motivated to chase another. I would be motivated by advantage play opportunities, free play, loss rebates, accumulating player points, etc. when video poker happens to be the most efficient game available.
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October 14th, 2022 at 12:25:28 PM permalink
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Congratulations on the win! And I love your photo!
I counted 5k in the fan. Did you remove some bills from the bands they gave you or was that extra money you had?

Photos like that make for great holiday emails to relatives. LOL
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Well, I brought about $6k with me and grew my bankroll up to $12k from the previous two days. Then I gave back basically all those gains before I got the $16k hit. So I now have $22k.

No, I didn't remove bills from the bands. There's $20k shown, plus I had another $2k not pictured in small bills and in my wallet.
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October 14th, 2022 at 12:39:27 PM permalink
Wonder if you could get paid in chips, lot easier.
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October 14th, 2022 at 12:47:05 PM permalink
I would be a lot easier to take a $16,000 check back home. But the casino knows jackpots paid in cash are more likely to be spent at the casino before making their way into a winner's bank account.
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October 14th, 2022 at 1:14:38 PM permalink
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Wonder if you could get paid in chips, lot easier.
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Please explain this. Why would it be easier to be paid in chips???

Please be specific.
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October 15th, 2022 at 7:29:36 PM permalink
Three $5k chips and one $1k chip a lot easier to count and carry. So essentially 4 chips vs counting 160 $100 bills for everyone to see. And not everyone can cash $5k chips. Must be verified by the cage. Makes it more difficult for someone to rob your winnings. I rarely will cash out my chips as long as I continue to play. Just lot easier to buy in with high denomination chips than fanning out several thousand 100 bills. Plus cash is tracked by the casinos, not chips. $10k chips is meaningless to the IRS, only becomes relevant if you cash more than $10k in one day.
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October 15th, 2022 at 7:51:35 PM permalink
There must be a good reason why casinos don't just load winnings onto player cards or digital apps. It would seem to be more convenient for everyone involved as well as more secure. Lost/stolen chips or cash usually can't be recovered. But lost cards protected by a PIN are easily replaced. I guess casinos would be assuming more liability for fraud if player cards had thousands of dollars on them, whereas cash once dispensed to a player is no longer the casino's problem.

It's fun to have huge piles of cash to show off, I suppose. But I don't particularly like walking around with $22k stuffed in my backpack and don't necessarily trust that hotel safes are secure from employee intrusion.
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October 15th, 2022 at 9:10:54 PM permalink
Get chips? And go thru two transactions to be paid instead of one?

Yeah. That's the ticket.
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October 15th, 2022 at 9:41:39 PM permalink
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It's fun to have huge piles of cash to show off, I suppose. But I don't particularly like walking around with $22k stuffed in my backpack and don't necessarily trust that hotel safes are secure from employee intrusion.
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Not room safe, hotel or casino safety deposit box. For everything.
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October 15th, 2022 at 11:20:28 PM permalink
I spent all day playing full pay deuces wild for quarters at Sam's Town. Didn't hit 4 deuces once. I still managed to break even because I hit a few royals with deuces and more than my fair share of 5 of a kind.

Overall, though, trying to grind out an advantage play at $1.25 a spin is a waste of time. And I probably made enough strategy mistakes and mis-clicks to negate most of the 0.76% player advantage on this rare version of the game.

Going thousands of spins, getting dealt 3 deuces at least a dozen times and never hitting the fourth, was frustrating. In theory it should be easier than hitting 4 aces in bonus poker because sometimes you discard an ace whereas a wild deuce should always be held. It makes me appreciate even more how crazy my luck was to hit 4 aces immediately after bumping up my bet to $200.

Next stop: Aria and Bellagio. I plan to avoid playing stakes that risk any major bankroll depletion. Max denom of $5 for video poker - never again $100! I considered quitting video poker entirely, but where else am I going to spend my freeplay - slots or keno? I don't think so.

I plan to focus less on on VP and more on Ultimate Texas Holdem. Almost every time I've played UTH I've spotted advantage opportunities due to sloppy dealers.
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October 21st, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM permalink
My bankroll took a hit at Aria. Had a disastrous poker session where I raised with a straight and lost to a flush, then got bluffed off QQ on what could have been a huge pot win, then went all-in with my remaining stack holding AK and got called by...you guessed it, AA. I stood up and literally threw my cards at the table (not the dealer or the caller) and left.

I proceeded to tilt-play machines and UTH until 3am, then getting 2 hours of sleep before having to wake up to catch a flight out of Vegas.

I still returned home with a lot more cash than I came with. It was a successful trip overall, but it felt more like a failure since it ended in frustration and tilt.

It could have ended much worse. The UTH table at Aria had a $50 minimum - which means $50 x 2 plus another $200 for a 4x raise. That's a total of $300 per hand. I've experienced rapid $1,000 swings on $25 tables, so I could have quickly lost my $2,000 buy-in. But I ran steady for an hour and cashed out for $2,500 after hitting a full house.
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October 21st, 2022 at 3:19:05 PM permalink
I had a friend that played 25 cent full pay deuces full time every day for years. He was a minimalist and was content to make $8 an hour as his job. He was thrilled when I sent him to the Skyline to play 50 cent full pay deuces although he was sad to lose the comps offered at the big casinos.
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October 21st, 2022 at 3:56:18 PM permalink
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JohnnyQ, thank you.

Yes, my 2 credit play was suboptimal. I shouldn't have even been playing $100 denomination given the size of my bankroll. It was a terrible play for multiple reasons. I made it only because I was on TILT.

I had given back nearly all of my hard-won gains from the previous 2 days and was trying to recover. So I started going up in denomination - $5, $10, then $25. After I lost a few hands on $25 x 5 bets, I was overcome with frustration and regret but too stubborn and zoned out to cut my losses. So I bumped it up from $125 to the next highest dollar amount the machine offered - $200.

I fed two $100 bills into the machine. And then...the most I've ever wagered on a single hand, hoping to just hit 2 pair so I could move back down in denomination...I absolutely luck out like I never have before and probably never will again.

I don't want to even try to ever top this hit or reenter the mindset that produced it. I may never play video poker again. This is my moment, a rare one for any gambler, to walk away a lifetime winner on a game and forevermore be able to say, I BEAT THE CASINO!


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congrats!

i remember i was playing $2 db and got quads for $500.
i then tried the Double Up feature and won for $1000!
Last time i have ever tried the double up feature.
that was years ago.

I just spent 15 min trying to find that post but failed :(
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October 21st, 2022 at 4:43:45 PM permalink
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JohnnyQ, thank you.

Yes, my 2 credit play was suboptimal. I shouldn't have even been playing $100 denomination given the size of my bankroll. It was a terrible play for multiple reasons. I made it only because I was on TILT.

I had given back nearly all of my hard-won gains from the previous 2 days and was trying to recover. So I started going up in denomination - $5, $10, then $25. After I lost a few hands on $25 x 5 bets, I was overcome with frustration and regret but too stubborn and zoned out to cut my losses. So I bumped it up from $125 to the next highest dollar amount the machine offered - $200.

I fed two $100 bills into the machine. And then...the most I've ever wagered on a single hand, hoping to just hit 2 pair so I could move back down in denomination...I absolutely luck out like I never have before and probably never will again.

I don't want to even try to ever top this hit or reenter the mindset that produced it. I may never play video poker again. This is my moment, a rare one for any gambler, to walk away a lifetime winner on a game and forevermore be able to say, I BEAT THE CASINO!


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congrats!

i remember i was playing $2 db and got quads for $500.
i then tried the Double Up feature and won for $1000!
Last time i have ever tried the double up feature.
that was years ago.

I just spent 15 min trying to find that post but failed :(
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This reminded me, something I noticed years ago, that the double-up feature was on machines and could be turned on or off. But it seemed many casinos kept it off.
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October 21st, 2022 at 5:03:23 PM permalink
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JohnnyQ, thank you.

Yes, my 2 credit play was suboptimal. I shouldn't have even been playing $100 denomination given the size of my bankroll. It was a terrible play for multiple reasons. I made it only because I was on TILT.

I had given back nearly all of my hard-won gains from the previous 2 days and was trying to recover. So I started going up in denomination - $5, $10, then $25. After I lost a few hands on $25 x 5 bets, I was overcome with frustration and regret but too stubborn and zoned out to cut my losses. So I bumped it up from $125 to the next highest dollar amount the machine offered - $200.

I fed two $100 bills into the machine. And then...the most I've ever wagered on a single hand, hoping to just hit 2 pair so I could move back down in denomination...I absolutely luck out like I never have before and probably never will again.

I don't want to even try to ever top this hit or reenter the mindset that produced it. I may never play video poker again. This is my moment, a rare one for any gambler, to walk away a lifetime winner on a game and forevermore be able to say, I BEAT THE CASINO!


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congrats!

i remember i was playing $2 db and got quads for $500.
i then tried the Double Up feature and won for $1000!
Last time i have ever tried the double up feature.
that was years ago.

I just spent 15 min trying to find that post but failed :(
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This reminded me, something I noticed years ago, that the double-up feature was on machines and could be turned on or off. But it seemed many casinos kept it off.
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The double up feature has been available on IGT machines for as long as I can remember (25 years or so).
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