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coilman
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August 6th, 2014 at 9:23:48 PM permalink
You get invited to go out with a friend to play slots for a bit and enjoy lunch together.

Your friend gives you $20 to play in the machines and you are lucky enough to hit the jackpot....what would you do?
AxiomOfChoice
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August 6th, 2014 at 9:25:01 PM permalink
I wouldn't take the $20 in the first place. Gambling with someone else's money just seems strange.
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August 6th, 2014 at 9:42:09 PM permalink
Split of course. As the giver, I think you should always stipulate beforehand wins would be split or else why not give them $20 somewhere else. A big win as the giver, I would probably only take 30-40% anyways. A friend tried screwing me once but the stipulation saved the day and I spoke up immediately.
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coilman
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August 6th, 2014 at 9:45:05 PM permalink
What if the friend didn't see the win as she was outside the building having a smoke at the time? ( got to love those non smoking casinos)
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August 6th, 2014 at 10:01:58 PM permalink
Split, whether they saw it or not.
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August 6th, 2014 at 10:21:51 PM permalink
as people before have said I don't think I would ever be in a situation that someone gave me 20 dollars to gamble. But if they had, and I won with it I would split it with them.
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August 7th, 2014 at 5:51:19 AM permalink
My ex girlfriend, Delsa the ex stripper, would keep the whole thing and expect me to pay for her next gambling session.
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August 7th, 2014 at 6:10:00 AM permalink
The usual way we do it is to repay any short term loans "plus" from a good win, and the big winner buys dinner.
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August 7th, 2014 at 6:44:20 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

http://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news/Lacombe_woman_hits_VLT_jackpot_269917141.html


Quote: article above

Now, she can continue in her work with paper crafts and rubber stamping without worrying about where the money will come from.


Um, what?
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August 7th, 2014 at 6:48:01 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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August 7th, 2014 at 7:29:13 AM permalink
I think we need Lem66's opinion on this so we can understand best what one should do.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 7th, 2014 at 7:36:08 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

My ex girlfriend, Delsa the ex stripper, would keep the whole thing and expect me to pay for her next gambling session.




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August 7th, 2014 at 7:40:05 AM permalink
Make the offer to split the money, then formalize it with a lawyer. The lawyers fees will be little compared to what a lawsuit would cost.
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August 7th, 2014 at 7:40:39 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I think we need Lem66's opinion on this so we can understand best what one should do.



I can tell you what he'd probably say:

REVENGE!!!

;)
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August 7th, 2014 at 9:14:46 AM permalink
Perhaps you could avoid splitting it, with the primes you are doing that person a favor, by not involving them in the winnings. Explain to them the curse of Megabucks and apply it for this jackpot.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 7th, 2014 at 9:32:00 AM permalink
This thread reminds me of one of a very sad story that I read several years ago. There were two sister's from Connecticut who where in the late 80's, who played the lottery regularly. For years they had an agreement, I believe a written agreement, that if either of them won, they would split 50/50. So they got into an argument in their latter years and stopped speaking to one another. Low and behold, one of them won the lottery. It wasn't a huge amount by lottery standards, $500,000 I believe. At the time of the article they were both in court fighting over the prize. One saying that the agreement had been terminated when they fought, while the other said it was still valid. Bottom line, they were probably paying the blood sucking lawyers (no offense AoS) half their money.
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August 7th, 2014 at 11:58:07 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Perhaps you could avoid splitting it, with the primes you are doing that person a favor, by not involving them in the winnings. Explain to them the curse of Megabucks and apply it for this jackpot.



They will thank you...

After they drag you through court, get at least 1/3 of the jackpot (amount before taxes and before the lawyer's fees), and they experience the curse for themselves :)
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August 7th, 2014 at 12:52:08 PM permalink
I would offer to split the Jackpot.

Out of curiosity, would the casino split the payout and provide 2 tax/withholding forms, or must the person who inserted the money and pulled the handle be the only payee?
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August 7th, 2014 at 1:17:47 PM permalink
This was in Canada so there are no tax forms (gambling winnings there are only taxable if you are a professional gambler).

In the US, there is a form that you can fill out to assign gambling winnings to another person (they have to agree, of course, which would be a prerequisite to giving them the money)
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August 7th, 2014 at 1:50:00 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Bottom line, they were probably paying the blood sucking lawyers (no offense AoS) half their money.



Ace sucks checkbooks and not blood, thank
you..
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August 7th, 2014 at 2:18:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Ace sucks checkbooks and not blood, thank
you..




These days, clients write IOU's rather than checks...
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August 7th, 2014 at 2:21:40 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

These days, clients write IOU's rather than checks...



You don't like pro bono work?
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August 7th, 2014 at 2:24:36 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

You get invited to go out with a friend to play slots for a bit and enjoy lunch together.

Your friend gives you $20 to play in the machines and you are lucky enough to hit the jackpot....what would you do?



I'd give back the $20 and keep the rest, and that is generous: there is no requirement to repay a gift, and under the facts as you described them no constructive trust, implied partnership or similar argument should succeed to warrant a different result.
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August 7th, 2014 at 2:28:41 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I'd give back the $20 and keep the rest, and that is generous: there is no requirement to repay a gift, and under the facts as you described them no constructive trust, implied partnership or similar argument should succeed to warrant a different result.

How long do you keep friends or do they all need to be masochists?
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August 20th, 2014 at 4:51:37 PM permalink
Stopped in at this casino the other day .... saw a buddy who works there in Security and asked if he was working the night of the BIG WIN? He said he was and watched the lady pacing back and forth, in and out the door. Phone call after phone call. Next he says the people in the RED JACKETS were not impressed she only tipped them $170 !!!!

Oh the slot attendants wear red vests ..... he said she had to hit the ATM to get them that amount. I replied she shouldn't have tipped a dime since they were taking 4 days to validate the win ...who knows they might find something wrong and void the win.... he replied that true
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August 20th, 2014 at 5:13:42 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

Stopped in at this casino the other day .... saw a buddy who works there in Security and asked if he was working the night of the BIG WIN? He said he was and watched the lady pacing back and forth, in and out the door. Phone call after phone call. Next he says the people in the RED JACKETS were not impressed she only tipped them $170 !!!!

Oh the slot attendants wear red vests ..... he said she had to hit the ATM to get them that amount. I replied she shouldn't have tipped a dime since they were taking 4 days to validate the win ...who knows they might find something wrong and void the win.... he replied that true



so no matter what you give the attendants in tips, they are going to complain. what's the point of tipping?
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August 20th, 2014 at 5:55:47 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

My ex girlfriend, Delsa the ex stripper, would keep the whole thing and expect me to pay for her next gambling session.

Yes. I belief that. Many women indeed have cash registers rather than hearts. You touch any of her money, however, and you will get a stiletto heel right through your hand.

In reality a good many people have informal agreements before they start but such agreements usually go by the wayside when one of the group hits it really big. My advice would be to make it a formal written agreement or else do not have any agreement.

Would I share it? Yes, with a good number of people. Would I feel any necessity to share it with the donor? Depends on the situation. In Hard Eights, was there a return of that One Dollar spend on a drink? Was there an Agreement?
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August 31st, 2014 at 8:57:20 PM permalink
I was at this small casino last night for some horse races in their horse betting area.... afterwards I walked around and couldn't believe what I saw. They mad a three or four foot long sign with the winners name date and amount won and hung it from the casino ceiling
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