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NokTang
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May 16th, 2013 at 7:47:08 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Silly me. Casinos all over Vegas must be shaking in their shoes!



Briefly, and suffice to say, if they think someone has figured out how to beat them they must in turn figure out how he's/she's doing it. It's their job to repeat myself. They are there to prevent cheating and that is that my friend.
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May 16th, 2013 at 7:53:34 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Briefly, and suffice to say, if they think someone has figured out how to beat them they must in turn figure out how he's/she's doing it. It's their job to repeat myself. They are there to prevent cheating and that is that my friend.


So all of the casinos in Vegas share Ahigh's info so that they can figure out why he always beats them???? WOW!
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May 16th, 2013 at 7:56:06 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I think the casinos do in fact share the photos(and perhaps other details like names) with others in cases where a guy/girl always win.



They keep an eye out for cheaters, for APs, for trouble makers.

A player who shows no evidence of the above is pretty much off their radar.

The notion that there is a Griffin book (or its modern equivalent) section for quasi-fleas who happen to get lucky is ... laughable.

Ha ha.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:01:00 AM permalink
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The notion that there is a Griffin book (or its modern equivalent) section for quasi-fleas...


LOL
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:03:20 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

So all of the casinos in Vegas share Ahigh's info so that they can figure out why he always beats them???? WOW!



They may share the info(photo) for the obvious reasons. They aren't there to lose or break even FYI. Consistent winners are indeed a red flag.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:04:17 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

They may share the info(photo) for the obvious reasons. They aren't there to lose or break even FYI. Consistent winners are indeed a red flag.


*facepalm*
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:05:51 AM permalink
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A player who shows no evidence of the above is pretty much off their radar.



I recall some place he claimed he could set the dice, control them, avoid seven's, and make repeated hardways? You never know when one of these small betters will show up with a high roller and catch them with *&^% in hand.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:08:13 AM permalink
Quote: MrV


The notion that there is a Griffin book (or its modern equivalent) section for quasi-fleas who happen to get lucky is ... laughable.

Ha ha.



That's someone's job you just laughed off and away.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:08:27 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I recall some place he claimed he could set the dice, control them, avoid seven's, and make repeated hardways? You never know when one of these small betters will show up with a high roller and catch them with *&^% in hand.



He *claimed* that, did he?

Funny, he hasn't proved it.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:12:52 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

He *claimed* that, did he?

Funny, he hasn't proved it.



The proof is in the cage photos. However, I'm not one to question it all. I don't operate a dice game either. Our conversation started with a members comments that he was known all over town. If we accept that premise, we can draw our own conclusions as to why.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:14:22 AM permalink
Casinos generally do not care about the amounts of money that I win at all because it's meaningless to them. The day I lost at the Stratosphere, the one player betting larger amounts than me on that day lost $4,000 in two throws of the dice going $1000 across and $3000 across. First roll a seven .. the only thing that could have lost was what he rolled on the first roll. TWICE. I had some curse words loaded up.

If you don't play craps every day for years you don't know what it's like to do so. There are very few casinos that I don't ever go to, and when I do go there, for example, after not going for a while, they do want to know who I am because of the things that I say and do. I am absolutely not a typical craps player at all. But it has nothing to do with the amount of money that I win or lose.

I know a very large portion of all of the craps dealers in Las Vegas. There are absolutely dealers that have never seen me who have heard of me. As AJ at the Silverton told me in reference to his talking to another dealer at another casino about me, "it's a big City, but people still talk."

Many dealers that I know work two and sometimes even three different casinos. There is cross-talk about what is going on around town. Anything unusual is talked about. Especially when there is an empty table, the dealers just sound like teenage schoolgirls but instead of talking about boy bands they talk about girls walking by, who lost, who won, and who might be coming back to chase and so on. They talk.

As far as me being recognized as a celebrity, people don't even have to recognize me from seeing me on a you tube channel (which for the record has never happened where someone said, "I have seen you on you tube.")

But when I shoot and talk while I am playing (I absolutely talk a lot) or when I pull a very long roll (I won't put out numbers, but even just from the amount that I play I get more longer rolls than just about anybody I know) people do take an interest. When it happens to be that I am getting a long roll and it appears and sounds like I know what I am doing, everybody takes an interest.

You guys can argue about it all you want, but as far as I am concerned, without you being at the casino with me, you are pissing in the wind thinking you know anything at all about it.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:18:38 AM permalink
Hello Ahigh. Please explain the hardways thing for me and these two members in I guess, doubt. Many of your stories include a set of ten or so tosses where you make a lot of hard six/eight's? Thanks.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:34:50 AM permalink
I lost at crapless again yesterday. I played for several hours and went down $200, up $250, then fired it back up and was down a little bit when the box man gave me grief and I chose to leave.

I was grandfathered in at $5 and he claimed I had to bet $10 minimums for what I thought was a bogus reason, so I just left. He may have saved me money because I just went to the LVH and made it all back very very easily on a regular craps table with $5 minimums.

I'm not sure, but I may just be done with crapless craps. It's absolutely a harder game that I am more likely to lose at than regular craps.

I did have fun even though it cost me, but the next time I play that game it's going to be max odds only.

I don't know why they chose to make comments that ultimately led me to leave, but it could have been any of a number of reasons. I don't have the bankroll to do 10x odds on a $10 game, but I probably do for a $5 game with a little luck.
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May 16th, 2013 at 8:40:29 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Hello Ahigh. Please explain the hardways thing for me and these two members in I guess, doubt. Many of your stories include a set of ten or so tosses where you make a lot of hard six/eight's? Thanks.



The way that the doubtful people perceive what I am doing is that I get lucky and roll clumps of hardways like anybody else. I don't claim to know why I am able to do this, but the statistics seem to validate there is a very low p-value of the distribution to what is on the top of my set to any other outcome over a series of rolls.

The last Ahigh show I rolled 4 hard tens and one easy ten in ten throws of the dice after specifically setting out to do this.

Critics say "so what!"

To me it's interesting. To the math, it's unlikely. In the case of the Ahigh show, I even said before I did this on the live show that it's what I was trying to do, including admitting failure about halfway into my 200 rolls of attempts. That's about the best explanation I can give you.

This topic is probably worthy enough for isolation into a separate thread, but in general, I don't think anybody here believes that what I am doing is anything but luck. I think maybe boymimbso said "maybe there's something to it." But by now, I think everyone just thinks it's luck.

I use this same theory to do this video before I was doing live shows. I had no failed attempts to do this, and this session took a little more than 100 throws as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-uMB17x4I
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May 16th, 2013 at 9:33:05 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

You guys can argue about it all you want, but as far as I am concerned, without you being at the casino with me, you are pissing in the wind thinking you know anything at all about it.



So then, by your own admission, we should put zero credence on what you say you've done / won in the casinos, yes?

Are you saying you are not to be believed as to what you claim to have done?

Are you saying that your posting your exploits proves nothing, and that you don't "know anything at all?"
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May 16th, 2013 at 9:41:15 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

The proof is in the cage photos.


Hey NokTang, I am Yoda. If you don't believe me, I will post a picture of him.
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May 16th, 2013 at 9:43:54 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

So then, by your own admission, we should put zero credence on what you say you've done / won in the casinos, yes?

Are you saying you are not to be believed as to what you claim to have done?

Are you saying that your posting your exploits proves nothing, and that you don't "know anything at all?"



Thanks for illustrating a demonstration of the idiom "pissing in the wind."

Are you saying by your comments that you do not know how to properly infer from my comments the points that I am trying to make?

Are you saying you just make up questions to support your belief system regardless of what is the topic of the discussion?

Are you saying you drive a Ford Pickup Truck?

Are you saying you like daisies?

Are you saying nothing?

Are you anything more than a troll?
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May 16th, 2013 at 9:46:47 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

The way that the doubtful people perceive what I am doing is that I get lucky and roll clumps of hardways like anybody else. I don't claim to know why I am able to do this, but the statistics seem to validate there is a very low p-value of the distribution to what is on the top of my set to any other outcome over a series of rolls.

The last Ahigh show I rolled 4 hard tens and one easy ten in ten throws of the dice after specifically setting out to do this.

Critics say "so what!"

To me it's interesting. To the math, it's unlikely. In the case of the Ahigh show, I even said before I did this on the live show that it's what I was trying to do, including admitting failure about halfway into my 200 rolls of attempts. That's about the best explanation I can give you.

This topic is probably worthy enough for isolation into a separate thread, but in general, I don't think anybody here believes that what I am doing is anything but luck. I think maybe boymimbso said "maybe there's something to it." But by now, I think everyone just thinks it's luck.

I use this same theory to do this video before I was doing live shows. I had no failed attempts to do this, and this session took a little more than 100 throws as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-uMB17x4I



I wish you would give yourself a break Ahigh.

Not to insult anyone but I didn't read that other person's comments about the show being a disaster, it wasn't. Given my choices on satellite tv, there are dozens of shopping channels and not one on craps. America needs more exposure to craps/math and less exposure to shopping.

The break part is when your trying something different/special, don't log those rolls in with the rest. If I'm trying to improve at one shot or another, those practice shots don't represent my game anymore than a musician practicing music represents their recorded songs.

Your integrity/honesty isn't in doubt to anyone that should matter to you.

On crapless craps, did you ever place the ace-deuce or just come bet it? Can you tell me what that pays? I think you said you had 8 come bets out there and it went down, ouch? No limit of 3 or so comes, hunh? Thanks
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May 16th, 2013 at 10:00:42 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

On crapless craps, did you ever place the ace-deuce or just come bet it? Can you tell me what that pays? I think you said you had 8 come bets out there and it went down, ouch? No limit of 3 or so comes, hunh? Thanks



I hit aces and twelves a couple of times each for single odds ($10). The pay is $60 for the $10 odds and $10 for the flat on the hi/lo.

The ace-deuce and yo I hit about twice as often each and the pay is triple ($30 for the odds and $10 for the flat).

I had a $5 table last night, and I did do $5 come bets with $25 odds for a little while. I had $25 on each of the hi/lo but I didn't hit either of them and some folks walked up to the table asking a bunch of questions and I took all my odds bets down to single odds to reduce exposure, but I didn't hit either one that time around.

I didn't buy any bets at all during any of my play.

The only place bets I made were on the six and eight.
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May 16th, 2013 at 11:19:16 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Thanks for illustrating a demonstration of the idiom "pissing in the wind."

Are you saying by your comments that you do not know how to properly infer from my comments the points that I am trying to make?

Are you saying you just make up questions to support your belief system regardless of what is the topic of the discussion?

Are you saying you drive a Ford Pickup Truck?

Are you saying you like daisies?

Are you saying nothing?

Are you anything more than a troll?



In order ...

No, I am saying that your comment implies that the ONLY way to determine the truth is to be at a table with you, that it is the only way to "know anything at all."

By implication, that means nobody should put any weight on what you SAY, only on what you DO.

My comments and questions are formulated by my belief system, as are yours.

Yes, I do drive a Ford pickup, as well as a Ferrari; thanks for asking!

The only daisies I care about would the ones you'd be pushing up (ba da bing, ba da boom).

"Saying nothing" is self-contradictory.

I am a troll only in the sense that I am a big, strong and basically mean-spirited uncaring lout.
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May 16th, 2013 at 1:10:45 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

As AJ at the Silverton told me in reference to his talking to another dealer at another casino about me, "it's a big City, but people still talk."
.



Of course they talk about you, you're a gambling eccentric.
They don't talk about your skills, they talk about your
eccentricities. Happens in every profession. Certain people
stand out, and you stand out. But its meaningless, you could
be the old slot lady who has dozens of lucky charms pinned all
over her and a big bird on her hat. They talk about her too..
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May 16th, 2013 at 1:36:23 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Of course they talk about you, you're a gambling eccentric.
They don't talk about your skills, they talk about your
eccentricities. Happens in every profession. Certain people
stand out, and you stand out. But its meaningless, you could
be the old slot lady who has dozens of lucky charms pinned all
over her and a big bird on her hat. They talk about her too..



EB, it almost sounds like you're projecting a bit. They talk about you too.
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May 16th, 2013 at 1:49:46 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

EB, it almost sounds like you're projecting a bit. They talk about you too.



No they don't, why would they. I don't speak, I
don't stand out, I make my small goal and leave.
I was never there.
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May 16th, 2013 at 1:54:35 PM permalink
Man, I am so tempted now to start asking dealers if they know Ahigh whenever I happen to be playing craps around town. :D
(j/k...haha)
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:00:32 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Man, I am so tempted now to start asking dealers if they know Ahigh whenever I happen to be playing craps around town. :D
(j/k...haha)



I doubt he calls himself "Ahigh" at the tables.

More likely he asks that they call him "Mr. H."

Nothing wrong with that.
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:03:57 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I doubt he calls himself "Ahigh" at the tables.


You never know...they could be reading his posts, watching his TV show, visiting his website, etc.
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:05:54 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

You never know...they could be reading his posts, watching his TV show, visiting his website, etc.



He said awhile back he calls himself Aaron Hightower
when he plays.
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:06:51 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

You never know...they could be reading his posts, watching his TV show, visiting his website, etc.



And taking his picture and emailing it to all the other casinos.

And trying to unbias all their dice ...
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:07:06 PM permalink
They just call me "Aaron." Very few people use my last name at all. Only places that I haven't visited frequently or much or when people don't know me will they use my last name.
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:32:56 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

And taking his picture and emailing it to all the other casinos.

And trying to unbias all their dice ...



And staking out his house and tailing him around town.
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May 16th, 2013 at 2:36:36 PM permalink
It appears as if this thread has taken over the Gun Control and Dice Control threads that randomly appear as herpes eruptions
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May 16th, 2013 at 3:32:14 PM permalink
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It appears as if this thread has taken over the Gun Control and Dice Control threads that randomly appear as herpes eruptions



Classy comment there, sport.
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May 16th, 2013 at 4:59:51 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

It appears as if this thread has taken over the Gun Control and Dice Control threads that randomly appear as herpes eruptions

Ya know, now there's a vaccine (not an app) for that.
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May 16th, 2013 at 9:10:37 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Classy comment there, sport.



Don't chastise him, you might chase him off.
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May 16th, 2013 at 9:59:27 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Hey NokTang, I am Yoda. If you don't believe me, I will post a picture of him.



He, Ahigh, has posted several photos of $3000.usd cash outs/chips. While to some of you $3000. is peanuts, to a wide berth of players it's a fortune. Not many in a casino will have $3000.usd on them, even at a Wynn or Caesars. He's got those amounts at what most consider small time outfits with mostly very low average wager customers and even the most unfortunate eating scraps and drinking left drinks and half empty beers.
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May 16th, 2013 at 10:30:19 PM permalink
NokTang, stop being an Ahigh fanboy. (haha)
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May 16th, 2013 at 11:06:33 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

NokTang, stop being an Ahigh fanboy. (haha)



Where's tupp?
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May 17th, 2013 at 1:28:16 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

NokTang, stop being an Ahigh fanboy. (haha)



Just answering the jibes at me. Ahigh is willing to post and contribute and that's good enough for me. Those of you tossing peanut shells from the balcony should try and participate. Any post is okay with me as long as not about child abuse, I'm able to skim by something of no interest. His pictures speak volumes more than peanut shells.
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May 17th, 2013 at 1:29:05 AM permalink
We do participate. We're just tired of the nonsense.
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May 17th, 2013 at 1:39:51 AM permalink
AlanMendelson, you got to hand it to Ahigh. He's the only member here who has fanboys.
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May 17th, 2013 at 1:47:34 AM permalink
NokTang, so you really think all the top casino execs in Vegas phone each other about Ahigh? LOL
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May 17th, 2013 at 2:42:04 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

NokTang, so you really think all the top casino execs in Vegas phone each other about Ahigh? LOL



It's automated, facial recognition and all that stuff. Surprised you are so behind. Anyone who can on a consistent basis roll four or five hardways out of ten rolls, without a seven out or easy way, is indeed going to be noticed and watched.
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May 17th, 2013 at 2:48:31 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

NokTang, stop being an Ahigh fanboy. (haha)

Quote: AlanMendelson

Where's tupp?


That's real funny "(haha)."

It's great that you and your new friends in the WOV peanut gallery have fun in laughing at each other's childish jokes and in ganging-up on the independent thinkers here.

Enjoy your new found camaraderie -- now you're part of the true circle jerk!
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May 17th, 2013 at 4:21:42 AM permalink
Quote: tupp

That's real funny "(haha)."


Man, so touchy. That message of mine wasn't even directed at you.
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May 17th, 2013 at 4:25:37 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

It's automated, facial recognition and all that stuff. Surprised you are so behind.


What does "facial recognition" have to do with your belief that casinos are warning each other about Ahigh? Are you saying that the dealers who supposedly recognized him (at a casino he's never been to before) are robots who used facial recognition software to reveal his identity?


Quote: NokTang

Anyone who can on a consistent basis roll four or five hardways out of ten rolls, without a seven out or easy way, is indeed going to be noticed and watched.


NokTang, do you really believe everything that you read? And do you really believe everything that you write?
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May 17th, 2013 at 7:13:40 AM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

It appears as if this thread has taken over the Gun Control and Dice Control threads that randomly appear as herpes eruptions



Here comes another flare-up.

This thread has gotten hopelessly off-topic, though the jabs are all within the Statler and Waldorf standard in this thread, (read: no bans) this entire thread has been reduced to sniping at one another for the last three pages.

Locked.
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