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unJon
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January 24th, 2023 at 1:38:45 PM permalink
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Not yet. I have been all over Asia, but, never played in Asia.

From what I understand, their Blackjack isn't very favorable (do they even have other than CSM?), and their Baccarat tables are just too crowded unless you have your own table. I assume that getting your own private Bacc table in Macau would be harder than in Vegas.
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I have no idea, but would think that a credit line of sufficient size would get the job done.
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January 24th, 2023 at 1:39:32 PM permalink
I find it odd that someone with a $5mm bankroll would play in a locals casino in Commerce, CA....

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I am in a couple of very large Baccarat tournaments shortly (am in Vegas now).....
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What kind of action do you have to be involved in to get invited to these Baccarat tournaments?

They're not advertised online. I've asked casino employees and they tell me they don't know about any Baccarat tournaments. So, I'm assuming you need to be a pretty big bettor before you're even told of their existence.

What will get me there... yellow chip level? More?
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January 24th, 2023 at 2:47:12 PM permalink
TigerWu, to clarify what I wrote about here:

I wrote about how people I know have told me that they get 20% in promo chips added on to their bankrolls under the circumstances that I outlined, in the Commerce, CA casinos. I mentioned that these people were depositing something like 100 or 200K.

Then I mentioned someone I know who plays in Vegas and wires in $5M each trip, to Vegas.

For that Vegas player, we (by we I mean I and an independent host I work with) have been trying to get a similar to the Commerce casinos deal in Vegas. So far, the casinos are unwilling to come up to anywhere near the 20% level.


Tournaments,

All of these tournaments have different criteria. Some of the larger prize money ones require credit lines or front money deposits of $250K or $500K, but if enough invitees decline to participate, the criteria may be lowered on a case by case basis. Obviously besides the minimum credit line / front money criteria the player also must have shown some strong, regular action to get into the larger tournaments (no "shot takers").

An independent host would know about most every tournament going on in town, especially at the casinos where that ind host has players. Sometimes these tournaments are listed in the emails that are sent out by in house or independent hosts, sometimes not. I don't know if any of the tourneys are actually "advertised" but if sending out emails to qualifying players is advertising, then yes, they do that - but for some tournaments, they aren't even listed on any emails I get, and a host or the tournament director simply texts me as the tournament date approaches and asks if I would like to participate.

By the way, in general, for most every casino, to participate in a tournament (or a promotional stay, for example), all outstanding markers must be cleared - the credit line must be clear.

While some of the tournaments do have set criteria, many don't and are simply offered to players who put in sufficient regular play, at a high enough level.

The more elite the casino, the higher the criteria to get into their tournaments. But as well, the more elite casinos also have larger aggregate prize pools for their tournaments. An off Strip casino's entire prize pool might equal $50K (in promo chips), while at another the prize pool might be over a million. I generally don't bother with any tournament where the prize pool is much under $100K, especially if there is a scheduling conflict and more than one tournament is going on that day.

I have actually pulled off two tournaments in one day many times, but this works most easily if you get knocked out quickly in one of them. If you start advancing in both, you'll end up with conflicts and - decision time.
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January 24th, 2023 at 4:12:02 PM permalink
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I find it odd that someone with a $5mm bankroll would play in a locals casino in Commerce, CA....

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I am in a couple of very large Baccarat tournaments shortly (am in Vegas now).....
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What kind of action do you have to be involved in to get invited to these Baccarat tournaments?

They're not advertised online. I've asked casino employees and they tell me they don't know about any Baccarat tournaments. So, I'm assuming you need to be a pretty big bettor before you're even told of their existence.

What will get me there... yellow chip level? More?
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I am sure if you ask your host they can tell you the requirements or expected play levels.
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January 24th, 2023 at 4:21:32 PM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

I find it odd that someone with a $5mm bankroll would play in a locals casino in Commerce, CA....

Quote: MDawg

I am in a couple of very large Baccarat tournaments shortly (am in Vegas now).....
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What kind of action do you have to be involved in to get invited to these Baccarat tournaments?

They're not advertised online. I've asked casino employees and they tell me they don't know about any Baccarat tournaments. So, I'm assuming you need to be a pretty big bettor before you're even told of their existence.

What will get me there... yellow chip level? More?
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I am sure if you ask your host they can tell you the requirements or expected play levels.
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Why would you possibly think TigerWu has a host? I would surmise if he had a host heíd be asking the host, not a bunch of anonymous internetters!
What Iím interested in is the EV. In one of the million dollar tourneys are you competing as one of a hundred invitees? EV $10k as an example. I do a bunch of online sports betting type events with an EV of around $1! Most lessÖ..
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January 24th, 2023 at 4:43:31 PM permalink
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I find it odd that someone with a $5mm bankroll would play in a locals casino in Commerce, CA....

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I am in a couple of very large Baccarat tournaments shortly (am in Vegas now).....
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What kind of action do you have to be involved in to get invited to these Baccarat tournaments?

They're not advertised online. I've asked casino employees and they tell me they don't know about any Baccarat tournaments. So, I'm assuming you need to be a pretty big bettor before you're even told of their existence.

What will get me there... yellow chip level? More?
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I am sure if you ask your host they can tell you the requirements or expected play levels.
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Why would you possibly think TigerWu has a host? I would surmise if he had a host heíd be asking the host, not a bunch of anonymous internetters!
What Iím interested in is the EV. In one of the million dollar tourneys are you competing as one of a hundred invitees? EV $10k as an example. I do a bunch of online sports betting type events with an EV of around $1! Most lessÖ..
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I have played in a lot of smaller tournaments and even won twice, but I have never been involved in a big one. I was invited to a $500k giveaway at the Venetian once where everybody invited earned drawing tickets for their play. I would guess that I had the most tickets, or at least close to the most, they drew 30 tickets to win prizes from $5k up to $250k, I didn't have a single ticket drawn (electronic drawing not physical ticket) and based on my rough calculations that was highly improbable. The next year Nevada Gaming fined Venetian millions of dollars for drawings rigged for their high rollers. I am convinced I was cheated.
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January 24th, 2023 at 6:03:03 PM permalink
Venetian did get in trouble for a rigged tournament, at least once

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/venetian-rigging-a-drawing/

which might mean it was done more than once.


SooPoo, the winner takes all $1M tournaments always have hundreds of participants and only one wins. Typically four or five hundred entrants,

The tournaments where $1+M is pooled don't have nearly as many participants, mainly because the qualifying criteria are much higher. In those the odds of winning something are the 5 or 6 prizes divided by approximately 50 - 100 entrants.

I'd say the best odds I've had are drawings where only 40 or so participants were involved (I won, something substantial, twice), and tournaments with 50 - 100 participants (won a couple of those). I've also won two tournaments that had between 100 - 200 participants.

All free entry, so no reason not to participate if invited and in town.

Luck is of course a factor. I've won a drawing where I had only one ticket in the drum, and others had maxed out at whatever the max was and won nothing. I didn't win the grand prize (or else we could say...hey! that was rigged for MDawg) but I did win a pretty nice all cash prize on that tournament.
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January 24th, 2023 at 10:04:02 PM permalink
It's nice to quote watered-down articles. I was there playing at the time. There was so much shit going on there, it wasn't funny.
Pros were locking up 50k slot tournaments. Pros were dominating the drawings before they were blatantly rigging the drawings that were previously bought out. I assume the rigged drawing was actually due to countering AP from winning.

The Venetian was actually one of the first places that helped kick off the AP free-play mail game.
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January 25th, 2023 at 9:08:01 AM permalink
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For each round of the tournament, the order of play is determined by a single die roll before play is commenced, and the final hand is sometimes secret (you write down your final hand choice and amount on a slip of paper that is revealed only after everyone has turned in his slip), sometimes last hand is not blind. The secret bet aspect eliminates the advantage of betting last on the final round. Typically there are anywhere from 9 to 14 hands dealt per round of a tournament.
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The die roll is done on the Blackjack tournaments. If there are less than 6 participants, and a 6 comes up, the die is rolled again. With the Baccarat tournaments your spot on the table based on picking randomly your entry slip sometimes is all they use to assign the order, with the order going 1 - X on the table for the first hand.
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January 25th, 2023 at 9:08:14 PM permalink
Southern Cal weather has heated up. Vegas, not so much.
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