Zcore13
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January 17th, 2020 at 8:28:10 PM permalink
Quote: audionut

So funny...NOBODY knows my system or how I bet it, yet EVERYBODY says it doesn't work. LOL...

The whole reason I started this thread was to hopefully give some of you inspiration that it can be done... but instead of motivating you to develop something that works for you, I get "show me...post picks....let us see....blah blah blah..." Like I'm going to give away something that I have spent years to develop. LOL...

I mentioned in my first post that I'm not selling anything, please, just keep doing what YOUR doing... I don't care if you believe me or not...I also mentioned that someday I may write a book about this; you can then all try it yourself... But you ARE betting sports wrong...How do I know? Cause your LOSING MONEY.

I truly wish you all the best.... I've definitely wasted enough time here... now you may continue your closed-minded ignorant rants about something you know absolutely nothing about... CYA..



You have 2 choices. Come back and tell us when your system starts falling back in line with reality, which it eventually will. Or, keep making up your stories and try another forum with people that are not as smart.


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DeMango
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January 17th, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM permalink
Quote: audionut

So funny...NOBODY knows my system or how I bet it, yet EVERYBODY says it doesn't work. LOL...

The whole reason I started this thread was to hopefully give some of you inspiration that it can be done... but instead of motivating you to develop something that works for you, I get "show me...post picks....let us see....blah blah blah..." Like I'm going to give away something that I have spent years to develop. LOL...

I mentioned in my first post that I'm not selling anything, please, just keep doing what YOUR doing... I don't care if you believe me or not...I also mentioned that someday I may write a book about this; you can then all try it yourself... But you ARE betting sports wrong...How do I know? Cause your LOSING MONEY.

I truly wish you all the best.... I've definitely wasted enough time here... now you may continue your closed-minded ignorant rants about something you know absolutely nothing about... CYA..


Well before you go, just a Rolex or two pictured, the suite your in etc, etc.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
TDVegas
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January 17th, 2020 at 8:38:56 PM permalink
Quote: audionut

The whole reason I started this thread was to hopefully give some of you inspiration that it can be done


LOL...no you didn't. You posted this to hear yourself talk.

There's nothing useful here. Inspiration? LOL.....What is this, Father Flanagan and Boys Town?
gordonm888
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January 17th, 2020 at 10:34:07 PM permalink
Your posts are all claims but have no content. You protest against our criticism on the grounds that we don't know what your system is - but you haven't told us what it is. And I suspect that you will never tell us what it is.

You say you can quickly evaluate all the games in all these sports and make your picks -that it is "automatic" and "mechanical." This sounds like a system built on progressive "size of wager." Some of us understand that subject with great clarity.

A number of people have suggested you post your picks (and wager sizes) prior to the start of games for a period of time. You have neither complied with nor even acknowledged these suggestions.

Nobody in the world acquires a reputation for "being great" by merely telling other people that they are great. You are like the guy that stands at the foot of the bed and tells the lady in the bed, over and over, what a great lover you are.

So far, you have not inspired any of us and done nothing more than waste electrons.
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DeMango
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January 17th, 2020 at 10:35:25 PM permalink
Glad this new(?) poster came by. This place is dead without MDawg. Pretty much walking in the same steps too. Hmmmm
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odiousgambit
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January 18th, 2020 at 7:13:20 AM permalink
the oddest thing is the OP does not go to the tried and true when it comes to making money selling a sports betting scam

what you do is try to reach thousands of players and offer them free tips. Out of those, some of them are going to be impressed how you called it! When actually all you did was make some guesses, mixing it up [important]. I can't help but notice this lure was not dangled.

You're going to have a few quite willing to pay you money now for more tips

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redietz
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January 18th, 2020 at 8:28:54 AM permalink
Okay, I'm surprised at the naivete and lack of sophistication and lack of any factual historical references here, so I'll respond. I am not, obviously, defending the original poster in any fashion here. Just laying out facts.

1) Nobody who wins is going to just post their plays on a public forum for a long length of time unless serious money is involved. Now I will test the membership here and ask, what are the reasons this might be? C'mon, guys, there are obvious reasons. take a few shots.

2) Back in the 80's and 90's, there were formal monitoring services. Eventually, the best ones died out because very few handicappers generated multi-year profits. The monitors that survived went the sleaze route, allowing multiple versions of the same service or coordinated entries under different names. Look up "Tipsters or Gypsters?" by former Seattle Times reporter, Mike McCusker for the most reputable publication that monitored handicappers. He coined the terms "scamdicapper" and "trendsvestite." His annual volumes (football and hoops) also included character references and personal history notes.

3) If you allow an anonymous internet name to post plays, it proves nothing. Unless someone posts under their own, real name, how do you know the same person isn't anonymously posting a thousand different lineup arrays on a thousand different internet locations?

4) Most of the more reputable "selling plays" handicappers these days function as pay-after-you-win. This tactic, which is in my opinion on higher ground than a fast food joint selling crap food that tastes good, basically flips the odds so the handicapper doing so has an edge versus bookmakers. Nothing inherently wrong with that as long as the advertising is truthful. And the customers/players can benefit if they win, so both the handicappers and players can theoretically come out ahead.

5) Here's a quick anecdote that highlights why no reputable handicapper is pushing old cliched scams to sell plays. I was in a public online competition about 12/13 years ago. I won 17 in a row and went 66-34 ATS overall. There were only 40-some reputable handicappers in the contest, but I did not win. Did not really come close. One guy was, as is the cliché, on absolute fire with Pac 12 and Mountain West totals. So I finished second. Do you know how many clients I picked up from that? None. Zero. The point being:

6) People are arrogant and think they can win themselves. Look at the population here. Honestly, most posters here probably think that some type of mathematical knowledge and conscientiousness can yield a winning record. It can't. It does not. I'm not sure what record is necessary to hit the sweet spot of believability and impressiveness, but 66-34 ATS wasn't it. So no reputable handicapper is going to post plays publicly in an attempt to "impress" anyone and garner clients. It's just silly. What would I, for example, hope for? Would 70-30 ATS be good enough? A once-in-a-lifetime record? LOL. It's silly.

7) There are so few high stakes sports bettors, fishing at sites like this is undoubtedly a waste of time. You really do acquire your reputation through your historical effectiveness in public contests and through interacting with other handicappers, bookmakers, and sports books.

The level of naivete in the responses to this dude was driving me nuts, so forgive the pedantry. Now, why would an actual winning handicapper NOT post his or her plays on a public site in his or her own name? The answers are obvious.
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SM777
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January 18th, 2020 at 8:39:00 AM permalink
Welcome back to the forum, Joel.
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January 18th, 2020 at 9:07:29 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

Welcome back to the forum, Joel.


Definitely someone we seen before.
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TDVegas
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January 18th, 2020 at 9:34:45 AM permalink
Quote: redietz

Okay, I'm surprised at the naivete and lack of sophistication and lack of any factual historical references here, so I'll respond. I am not, obviously, defending the original poster in any fashion here. Just laying out facts.

1) Nobody who wins is going to just post their plays on a public forum for a long length of time unless serious money is involved. Now I will test the membership here and ask, what are the reasons this might be? C'mon, guys, there are obvious reasons. take a few shots.

2) Back in the 80's and 90's, there were formal monitoring services. Eventually, the best ones died out because very few handicappers generated multi-year profits. The monitors that survived went the sleaze route, allowing multiple versions of the same service or coordinated entries under different names. Look up "Tipsters or Gypsters?" by former Seattle Times reporter, Mike McCusker for the most reputable publication that monitored handicappers. He coined the terms "scamdicapper" and "trendsvestite." His annual volumes (football and hoops) also included character references and personal history notes.

3) If you allow an anonymous internet name to post plays, it proves nothing. Unless someone posts under their own, real name, how do you know the same person isn't anonymously posting a thousand different lineup arrays on a thousand different internet locations?

4) Most of the more reputable "selling plays" handicappers these days function as pay-after-you-win. This tactic, which is in my opinion on higher ground than a fast food joint selling crap food that tastes good, basically flips the odds so the handicapper doing so has an edge versus bookmakers. Nothing inherently wrong with that as long as the advertising is truthful. And the customers/players can benefit if they win, so both the handicappers and players can theoretically come out ahead.

5) Here's a quick anecdote that highlights why no reputable handicapper is pushing old cliched scams to sell plays. I was in a public online competition about 12/13 years ago. I won 17 in a row and went 66-34 ATS overall. There were only 40-some reputable handicappers in the contest, but I did not win. Did not really come close. One guy was, as is the cliché, on absolute fire with Pac 12 and Mountain West totals. So I finished second. Do you know how many clients I picked up from that? None. Zero. The point being:

6) People are arrogant and think they can win themselves. Look at the population here. Honestly, most posters here probably think that some type of mathematical knowledge and conscientiousness can yield a winning record. It can't. It does not. I'm not sure what record is necessary to hit the sweet spot of believability and impressiveness, but 66-34 ATS wasn't it. So no reputable handicapper is going to post plays publicly in an attempt to "impress" anyone and garner clients. It's just silly. What would I, for example, hope for? Would 70-30 ATS be good enough? A once-in-a-lifetime record? LOL. It's silly.

7) There are so few high stakes sports bettors, fishing at sites like this is undoubtedly a waste of time. You really do acquire your reputation through your historical effectiveness in public contests and through interacting with other handicappers, bookmakers, and sports books.

The level of naivete in the responses to this dude was driving me nuts, so forgive the pedantry. Now, why would an actual winning handicapper NOT post his or her plays on a public site in his or her own name? The answers are obvious.


If I enter any sports betting centric forum and poll 100 of them in there individually...90 of them are going to tell me they are making regular bank. If I tell each of those 90 that it’s running 9 of 10 making cash....they will each tell me the others are bullshitting me.

“But not you, right”...?

“Correct...I’m giving you the truth”

This threader starter is a 90. I never knew so many handicappers beating the odds until I joined the internet. Amazing.

My point....everyone has a story about someone else, what others are doing, what others are scamming, what others are claiming....yet he/she is giving the straight poop. There are no facts in this. A bunch of opinions, yes. That’s about it.
Last edited by: TDVegas on Jan 18, 2020

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