Russ1409
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December 4th, 2019 at 8:05:22 AM permalink
Has anyone written a wincraps pro script for the 75 DC strategy?

Start with a $10 pass line bet and establish a number.
Make a $75 don’t come bet.
Once the don’t come number is established, place 3x odds behind the pass line.
Place the rest of the numbers, don’t cover the DC or the point number.
Make a Come bet.
When you hit a number, use the winnings of the place bet to establish double odds on that come number.
As you get ahead, you can bump the odds up to 3x, 4x, etc.
If the DC gets knocked down, call off on your bets (that will be your place bets, the come odds, and take down the pass odds).
Make another $75 DC. Take your place bet off of the number that is now your DC number. Turn all bets back on.
Always have a come bet working, except when making the $75 DC.
SOOPOO
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December 4th, 2019 at 8:10:40 AM permalink
If I may ask, why would anyone take the time to do such a thing? You are just piling a bunch of negative expectation bets together in a cute little pattern. What do you expect to find out? I don't need to program it to know it is a loser.
Russ1409
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December 4th, 2019 at 8:13:14 AM permalink
Because I want to run it. Thanks for your post.
7craps
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December 4th, 2019 at 9:12:39 AM permalink
Quote: Russ1409

Has anyone written a wincraps pro script for the 75 DC strategy?

i have one.
made it a long time ago.
Quote: Russ1409

Start with a $10 pass line bet and establish a number.
Make a $75 don’t come bet.
Once the don’t come number is established,

what happens when the DC is lost or NOT established?
a simple roll of 7 or 11 will do just that. 8 ways to loserville.

the script needs to account for this to be accurate.
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Place the rest of the numbers

with what?
Some Buy bets are better than Place bets some will say.
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As you get ahead

by exactly how much?
computers are not that smart, really, actually they are very stupid.
they need code to run (and the code could be GARBAGE)
most people do not need any code to run or walk.

maybe you should start the script and show it when stumped.
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
es330td
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December 4th, 2019 at 10:11:15 AM permalink
I like the way these strategies always start with a couple of steps assuming they will happen...

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Start with a $10 bet and establish a number. Make a 75 don’t come bet. Once the don’t come number is established...



To start with, there is only a 44% chance of rolling consecutive points. These strategies always break down because the noise that happens before “once a point is established.”

They all start out looking great except for that one hurdle that has to be overcome to get to the guaranteed money making part.
Russ1409
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December 4th, 2019 at 12:57:04 PM permalink
Folks, I know very well that this is not a positive EV strategy. Not really looking for commentary on the strategy here, and any reference to "guaranteed money making part" is ludicrous. You all are making huge assumptions! I'm actually looking to provide concrete numbers and examples to some people as to what exactly their risk of ruin truly is. I can walk into my local casino and easily find two or three people playing this strategy. I thought (mistakenly, clearly) that this was a common enough strategy that someone would say "Yeah, I wrote it five years ago here is the link."

Obviously, although I was directed to this forum by the makers of Wincrap as a place to ask about scripts, I'm clearly in the wrong place. Thanks for your time.
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December 4th, 2019 at 1:03:29 PM permalink
I apologize if I sounded harsh. You would have gotten a lot more support if you had started out by saying what you were trying to do. Your initial post started out sounded like someone trying a system.

I think someone can help understanding your goal.
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December 5th, 2019 at 8:42:47 AM permalink
no disrespect to the OP

but WinCraps should be renamed

it should be called LoseCraps............................................................... 😃




because as far as I know nobody has ever used it to develop a winning system
Please don't feed the trolls
7craps
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December 5th, 2019 at 9:44:49 AM permalink
Quote: Russ1409

Obviously, although I was directed to this forum by the makers of Wincrap as a place to ask about scripts, I'm clearly in the wrong place.

yes, wrong place for sure.
the problem appears to be 100% your fault.
That is because you 'thought' someone already had the code (sure) EXACTLY as YOU wanted it, without stating exactly what you wanted.
as they say, "That IS comedy"

Try talking to your computer more often and see if it knows exactly what you want without you telling it what you want.

Down with Odds
next
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
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December 5th, 2019 at 10:56:23 AM permalink
Quote: Russ1409

Folks, I know very well that this is not a positive EV strategy. Not really looking for commentary on the strategy here, and any reference to "guaranteed money making part" is ludicrous. You all are making huge assumptions! I'm actually looking to provide concrete numbers and examples to some people as to what exactly their risk of ruin truly is. I can walk into my local casino and easily find two or three people playing this strategy. I thought (mistakenly, clearly) that this was a common enough strategy that someone would say "Yeah, I wrote it five years ago here is the link."

Obviously, although I was directed to this forum by the makers of Wincrap as a place to ask about scripts, I'm clearly in the wrong place. Thanks for your time.



I hope you stay around. I think if the above was your original post you would have received answers that might have helped you. Something like..... "I have WinCraps but am not an expert in using it. I've seen a bunch of people using this system..... (describe system). Given a starting bankroll of X, what is the risk of ruin after Y hours of play?

There ARE lots of helpful experts here. (Not me!)
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December 5th, 2019 at 12:24:35 PM permalink
Those with unusual craps systems could use a pay schedule for those who write programs. Or for us real old timers, an AppleSoft emulator that runs on Windows 10 or the latest MAC. Some of us will do the work if we can get the tools! Not learning a new language when a version of BASIC is available.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
Russ1409
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December 5th, 2019 at 7:53:48 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I hope you stay around. I think if the above was your original post you would have received answers that might have helped you. Something like..... "I have WinCraps but am not an expert in using it. I've seen a bunch of people using this system..... (describe system). Given a starting bankroll of X, what is the risk of ruin after Y hours of play?

There ARE lots of helpful experts here. (Not me!)



Thanks, Soopoo. Perhaps there are a lot of experts here, but they’re obviously obscured by the flames, trolls, and apparently illiterate jerks that post here. All you have to do is read my original post. “Has anyone written this script?” I didn’t ask if this was a winning system. Didn’t tout it. Didn’t claim ANY method of playing any casino table game would result in winning. All I wanted to do was NOT reinvent the wheel, if at all possible. Instead, I get worthless posts and the obligatory ‘you must be too lazy to write your own script’ posts. Sorry I wasted my time.
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December 5th, 2019 at 8:10:34 PM permalink
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Perhaps there are a lot of experts here, but they’re obviously obscured by the flames, trolls, and apparently illiterate jerks that post here

. "All you have to do is read my original post. Has anyone written this script?”

no one here (the illiterate jerks) would ever help YOU with any code. It would be exactly what you want but then you would say
"Oh, it does not do what I want it to do, you JERK" or something close to it.

"Start with a $10 pass line bet and establish a number.
***number NOT established. what you do now?
Make a $75 don’t come bet.
Once the don’t come number is established, place 3x odds behind the pass line.
Place the rest of the numbers,
**huh??
don’t cover the DC or the point number.
***whaa?
As you get ahead, you can bump the odds up to 3x, 4x, etc."
***code that one so the computer understands it

what a JOKE
the TRASH goes out wednesday morning.
this thread should be in it, imo
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
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December 9th, 2019 at 6:34:47 PM permalink
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Those with unusual craps systems could use a pay schedule for those who write programs. Or for us real old timers, an AppleSoft emulator that runs on Windows 10 or the latest MAC. Some of us will do the work if we can get the tools! Not learning a new language when a version of BASIC is available.



Crickets, as expected. The problem with this site is folks are more concerned about what we can’t do, than what can be done. With exposure to casino personnel that is to be expected, but a PM would be nice. Unless of course the massive amount of AP’s here are all hat no cattle.
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