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darkoz
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April 15th, 2021 at 4:57:06 PM permalink
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If WellBush was suspended solely for saying that a group of people are losers as in lose at the casino, there are people in this thread who claim all the time (falsely) that I am a loser (lose at the casinos), so what about suspending all of them too?



We call people who lose regularly at the casinos ploppies.

Losers are a more general insult
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April 15th, 2021 at 6:58:26 PM permalink
Casino patrons, often called ploppies, annoy skilled players https://bj21.com/category/more/pages/ploppy-stupidity

A couple choice quotes from ancient times: a ploppy is that stupid gambler that plops his/her self down at your table when the count is high and starts eating up your good cards. They are strong worshipers of "the sacred flow of the cards" and like to chew out those who attempt to disrupt this magical flow. There's much more to these ploppies and I'm sure some of us could go on forever about them but that's what I think of when I think of a ploppy.

It takes a little extra to be a ploppy
Trying to be nice, most people are horrible players and the general definition of ploppy would include them. Considering the term to be extremely negative, I often will not consider that horrible player a ploppy till that player has declared himself God's prophet of blackjack chosen to spread the word to the rest of us.
He is that guy who knows nothing about playing blackjack but will let you and anyone else know it when you do not play his way. He is the guy who loses almost every trip to the casino but it is never because he plays so badly, it is because of you, me or someone else who disrupted the Mystical Magical Sacred Flow of the All Knowing Cards.
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April 15th, 2021 at 7:20:40 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Casino patrons, often called ploppies, annoy skilled players https://bj21.com/category/more/pages/ploppy-stupidity

A couple choice quotes from ancient times: a ploppy is that stupid gambler that plops his/her self down at your table when the count is high and starts eating up your good cards. They are strong worshipers of "the sacred flow of the cards" and like to chew out those who attempt to disrupt this magical flow. There's much more to these ploppies and I'm sure some of us could go on forever about them but that's what I think of when I think of a ploppy.

It takes a little extra to be a ploppy
Trying to be nice, most people are horrible players and the general definition of ploppy would include them. Considering the term to be extremely negative, I often will not consider that horrible player a ploppy till that player has declared himself God's prophet of blackjack chosen to spread the word to the rest of us.
He is that guy who knows nothing about playing blackjack but will let you and anyone else know it when you do not play his way. He is the guy who loses almost every trip to the casino but it is never because he plays so badly, it is because of you, me or someone else who disrupted the Mystical Magical Sacred Flow of the All Knowing Cards.

Not all skilled players are annoyed at ploppies. I think there are a good many AP's who love the poppies since they make it possible for the skilled players to make money. Skilled players might think poppies are foolish with their money when it comes to gambling, especially the ones who know better and have access to the information needed to be a wiser gambler but instead they choose to believe in voodoo-type nonsense.
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April 16th, 2021 at 10:21:20 AM permalink

Shouldn't be called hit and run. More like...quitting while ahead. Also, doing it for a living sounds somewhat...desperate. Who wants that?

There are really just two considerations in any sort of table game play. One is to leave the table with winnings. The other is getting the comps, especially if staying in a big suite as we are and wish to maintain RFB status. In my case though, if I get far enough ahead after one shoe I'll just leave, since I play for the money not the comps. And in any case, enough sessions come along where I end up playing longer, such that it all seems to even out anyway.

I would no more stay at a table longer solely to earn comps than I would add play time just to get something extra comp'ed that the host has indicated might not be comp'ed.
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:04:47 AM permalink
I hate going to drive-thru ATM's during this pandemic because I have to open the door and lean through an open car window to punch the keypads and get my money & receipt. I used to walk to a drive-thru ATM back in the '90's because it was just down the street and nobody was enforcing a car-only rule back then.

As far as playing cards for a daily, weekly, or monthly paychecks, well, that requires travel! What's a good win goal that won't get me kicked out? I could catch a senior's bus trip a few times a week, so I can mix in with a few dozen other gamblers, but if I'm late to get on the bus home, they're not waiting for me!

Trailways is starting up trips to Niagara Falls from Rochester, NY on May 27th. They go 4 times a week. $35 fee and get $40 of slot play. They stay for 5 hours. It's 2-3+ hours of travel time each way.
Interested in staying overnight? Just pay your driver $20 per person to reserve your return date seat.
If I was gonna drive, it would cost me $50 for gas, tolls, and more for parking if it's not free; and it would take 2.5 hours or more each way. Last time I drove, I left home at 2pm and got back at 7 am, and a cop was at my door the next day. I'm guessing border patrol is calling hometown police stations.
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April 16th, 2021 at 1:17:18 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

If WellBush was suspended solely for saying that a group of people are losers as in lose at the casino, there are people in this thread who claim all the time (falsely) that I am a loser (lose at the casinos), so what about suspending all of them too?



I'm off suspension! That didn't last too long. Maybe half a day. Thanks for sticking up for me. I was a little surprised I got suspended. Took a bit of time to work it out. Technically it could be put under personal insults, via general personal insults to a group! 😀

I don't know if my offending comment comes anywhere close to a host of others, though. At least I can block them. What I don't see does me no harm 😀
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April 16th, 2021 at 2:11:21 PM permalink
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Shouldn't be called hit and run. More like...quitting while ahead. Also, doing it for a living sounds somewhat...desperate. Who wants that?

There are really just two considerations in any sort of table game play. One is to leave the table with winnings. The other is getting the comps, especially if staying in a big suite as we are and wish to maintain RFB status. In my case though, if I get far enough ahead after one shoe I'll just leave, since I play for the money not the comps. And in any case, enough sessions come along where I end up playing longer, such that it all seems to even out anyway.

I would no more stay at a table longer solely to earn comps than I would add play time just to get something extra comp'ed that the host has indicated might not be comp'ed.



Now this post has some interesting parts to it, and these parts are found scattered throughout this website. I think Mission146 has hinted at it, and Mission146 may even have some more knowledge to share on the topic. So what am I referring to?

Well, I'm referring to a few things and I'll start with being in the money. Players get in the money a lot, and probably get out of the money much more. Does this tell us something? Well, maybe it does. Maybe it tells us that games go through cycles. That there are times that games favour the player, and times when games favour the dealer. So, isn't it sound logic for a player to take profits when their sitting on a nice profit? And isn't it sound logic for a player to continue gambling until the game cycle turns against them?

There's more to cover but I'll leave this post for now, to allow for discussion.
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April 16th, 2021 at 2:50:54 PM permalink
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Quote: MDawg


Shouldn't be called hit and run. More like...quitting while ahead. Also, doing it for a living sounds somewhat...desperate. Who wants that?

There are really just two considerations in any sort of table game play. One is to leave the table with winnings. The other is getting the comps, especially if staying in a big suite as we are and wish to maintain RFB status. In my case though, if I get far enough ahead after one shoe I'll just leave, since I play for the money not the comps. And in any case, enough sessions come along where I end up playing longer, such that it all seems to even out anyway.

I would no more stay at a table longer solely to earn comps than I would add play time just to get something extra comp'ed that the host has indicated might not be comp'ed.



Now this post has some interesting parts to it, and these parts are found scattered throughout this website. I think Mission146 has hinted at it, and Mission146 may even have some more knowledge to share on the topic. So what am I referring to?

Well, I'm referring to a few things and I'll start with being in the money. Players get in the money a lot, and probably get out of the money much more. Does this tell us something? Well, maybe it does. Maybe it tells us that games go through cycles. That there are times that games favour the player, and times when games favour the dealer. So, isn't it sound logic for a player to take profits when their sitting on a nice profit? And isn't it sound logic for a player to continue gambling until the game cycle turns against them?

There's more to cover but I'll leave this post for now, to allow for discussion.



The logic is sound.

Unfortunately the practice isn't.

In order to know when a winning cycle is on you have to wager on it

Otherwise you will see your winning outcomes but not partake of the winnings.

However wagering BEFORE you see the winning cycle means betting on possible changes to the winning cycle.

How long does a winning cycle last? Will Banker go for six or eight or twelve or three successive wins?

Unless you are psychic you have no idea.

Which means you are gambling and have no edge and no ability to take advantage of winning cycles.
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April 16th, 2021 at 5:39:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Quote: MDawg


Shouldn't be called hit and run. More like...quitting while ahead. Also, doing it for a living sounds somewhat...desperate. Who wants that?

There are really just two considerations in any sort of table game play. One is to leave the table with winnings. The other is getting the comps, especially if staying in a big suite as we are and wish to maintain RFB status. In my case though, if I get far enough ahead after one shoe I'll just leave, since I play for the money not the comps. And in any case, enough sessions come along where I end up playing longer, such that it all seems to even out anyway.

I would no more stay at a table longer solely to earn comps than I would add play time just to get something extra comp'ed that the host has indicated might not be comp'ed.



Now this post has some interesting parts to it, and these parts are found scattered throughout this website. I think Mission146 has hinted at it, and Mission146 may even have some more knowledge to share on the topic. So what am I referring to?

Well, I'm referring to a few things and I'll start with being in the money. Players get in the money a lot, and probably get out of the money much more. Does this tell us something? Well, maybe it does. Maybe it tells us that games go through cycles. That there are times that games favour the player, and times when games favour the dealer. So, isn't it sound logic for a player to take profits when their sitting on a nice profit? And isn't it sound logic for a player to continue gambling until the game cycle turns against them?

There's more to cover but I'll leave this post for now, to allow for discussion.



How about a short and sweet reply, anyone who thinks as you do should never ever enter a casino.

Next day edit:
Wellbush, your above quote was a response to a MDawg quote, and again your response does not apply to anyone playing Baccarat without cheating. There will never be a time when any hand played in Baccarat would favor the player. You in my opinion by insinuating deceptively from quoting MDawg's post as being a relevant factor in trying unsuccessfully to give the game of Baccarat legitimacy for winning money as an advantage play is shameful.
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April 17th, 2021 at 5:09:19 AM permalink
These gentlemen should have stuck to brunettes....

Woman accused of stealing watches valued at $82K from men on Strip

I mentioned this incident I read about in the LV Review Journal to my wife.

“Well, she must have let them have their way with her first, before she robbed them.”

“What makes you think that?”

“Well, they had fun, they were relaxed, they went to sleep, and she went to work.”

Hmm.

In any case, if you haven’t had a hooker steal or try to steal your Rolex, then you haven’t truly high rolled in Vegas.
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