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MDawg
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:16:36 PM permalink
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it's all dribble

Dribble is accusing someone of perpetrating a hoax with zero evidence or back up for the insulting accusation.

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My theory is that this is all a hoax and there's NO big betting, NO fancy watches and whatever else he has been claiming in the first place.


Evidence is saying that someone is wrong, and presenting instances to show when, where and how he has been wrong.

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Basically, this guy is highly insulting with a lot of what he posts - with zero back up. On the other hand, I have pointed out instances where he has proven that he has no concept of how markers even work - where he didn't realize that a marker with the signature torn out meant that it had been paid and was being posted at the end of the session, and where he assumed that a seven figure table game player would cash out in cash (versus say, bank wire), and where he kept asking such a seven figure table game winner to "show him the CTR" that he thought was a slip of paper that would be handed to him. These sorts of slip ups are demonstrable evidence that high end table play is well beyond this guy's ken. When I say something against AxelWolf, I provide evidence to establish that he doesn't know what he is talking about. And I don't insult him, I just point out where, when and how he is wrong. When he insults me, he has zero back up.

I mean come on, the only Rolex this guy owns he told us is a fake - so of course he'd be mind boggled by someone who has something real. His Rolex is fake, so he assumes the rest of the world must have fakes too. I'll spend a little time responding to his insults, but over all, it just shows where he is coming from - he is not the peer of high rollers.


As far as the wager:
We haven't even gotten to where you accept the wager. Given your proclivity for making offers, claims and wagers, and then backing out by inserting qualifiers after the fact - let's start with your understanding the exact terms. Please read to the end and say I ACCEPT.

Last edited by: MDawg on Dec 12, 2020
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AxelWolf
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:25:43 PM permalink
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I wasn't aware until now of what UnJon was trying to say.

Sorry for missing it.

In any case, a while back in the days when BeachBumBabs was active, there was a challenge made with a specific member here who has since disappeared, where he could play whatever casino game he wished other than sports betting, and I would play Baccarat, and then we would see who won more by the end of the trip. And yes, the dollar amount mentioned as the starting bankroll for both of us was 50,000. There was no award offered.

That proposal never went anywhere as the member who claimed that he could win more than MDawg disappeared without accepting the challenge.

It was never an open ended invitation to anyone who posted 50K to play with me, or even side by side with me. In fact, one of the things the other member was adamant about was that he be able to play whatever he wanted, not Baccarat, but again, the wager went nowhere.

This later morphed into a wager where AxelWolf proposed that he would play side by side with me at Baccarat as long as I covered his losses, which meant that I would be effectively bankrolling him. Of course, I nixed such a proposition.

Was this discussion from another forum? Quote the conversation on this forum. My guess is that you alerted Mike that I was bringing drama from another forum so this sounds hypothetical and you know better.
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:27:12 PM permalink
If you scroll up, I posted the screen shot from WOV. As far as the back and forth over all of this, with both you and the other guy, it's all in this thread if you want to find it and read it.
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Dribble is accusing someone of perpetrating a hoax with zero evidence or back up for the insulting accusation.


Fiction is fiction
It is what it is
The impossible generally makes great fiction, if well written
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:31:43 PM permalink
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Of course, I nixed such a proposition.

So you nixed a proposition that put you at a disadvantage or someone else at a big advantage? And yet you keep trying to call me out whenever I am not willing to do so either.
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:40:46 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

If you scroll up, I posted the screen shot from WOV. As far as the back and forth over all of this, with both you and the other guy, it's all in this thread if you want to find it and read it.

The conversation must have crossed forums since you love posting screen shots all over the net.
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:41:18 PM permalink
I would be astonished if you don't understand the difference.

You made an offer - I declined.


You make offers, claims and wagers - then even after others accept, or before they do, you try to change the terms.
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AxelWolf
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:51:08 PM permalink
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so here's what I propose. We put a 3 week reprieve/truce/ ceasefire and not bring up anything from the past(unless it's related directly to the challenge such as your list of things you require or some of the things I have suggested), from other forums, from here or say anything derogatory or negative about each other in any way. We basically concentrate on coming up with steps and negotiating one or more of any of these challenges. We may not or cannot say anything negative or derogatory to each other. And lets no go into long winded During this time I ask that Coach do the same and not instigate or bring up and butt in I must have to actually helpful.

How does that sound? It certainly sounds reasonable to me.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:51:11 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

So here's what I propose. We put a 3 week reprieve/truce/ ceasefire and not bring up anything from the past(unless it's related directly to the challenge such as your list of things you require or some of the things I have suggested), from other forums, from here or say anything derogatory or negative about each other in any way. We basically concentrate on coming up with steps and negotiating one or more of any of these challenges. We may not or cannot say anything negative or derogatory to each other. And lets not go into long winded posts. During this time I ask that Coach do the same and not instigate, bring up stuff or butt in, unless it's actually actually helpful.

How does that sound? It certainly sounds reasonable to me.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:52:27 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I would be astonished if you don't understand the difference.

You made an offer - I declined.


You make offers, claims and wagers - then even after others accept, or before they do, you try to change the terms.



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